Trevis

Currently, the way points work is a constant amount for wins and losses, but the kill point system seems to be messed up. Something that hasn't changed is that players with less points than you gain more points for when they kill you, and if you kill them, its a constant value of 2 points. I don't know what has changed as of recently, but I have consistently lost points from going greatly positive. The new system seems to heavily favor new players, but it seems this was not intentional, as I said earlier, Trazz said something about the config of the retakes plugin being changed.

Yeah so I don't know what's changed with the way points are given and taken on SG retakes, but it seems like it heavily favors new players now. Yup (#1) has lost 8k points in 3 days when he consistently went positive. I have lost around 2k from it. I've talked to Trazz about this and he said someone messed with the config of the server, and thats why points are messed up. All I want to know is: Will there be a fix for this, or will this stay permanent?

I didn't want to write this message, and I still don't want to, but it needs to be said. I'm leaving the SG Community (like for good). I've enjoyed my time on the server and I hope my presence was enjoyed by others too. I remember the time I first found this server and decided to play. I joined the JB server and not even a week later I played music like an annoying idiot. I got banned and didn't even know it or know why it happened until months later. The server was fun, there was a community of people who would make constant banter. I felt like I belonged. There were many strategies and metas that I might have started and quickly ended, but it was always an enjoyment. Then one guy, who was stoned off his mind all the time, named Shado befriended me. He was the funniest person I had encountered in a while and felt like a genuine friend. He created a group known as "smh xd" which for those of you who were in it, was probably the best group at the time, mostly because the last group of JB players were slowly leaving. It was a fun experience and had a lot of great people. We'd end up playing comp every so often and make constant jokes, it was a good time. By Christmas there was another group being created with a lot younger players who were overall pretty toxic. While our group was slowly becoming more inactive, we were growing to respect the rules slightly more than we used to, while the new group seemed to get worse with rule breaking. The new group of people had people getting banned left and right and it was pretty sad. After Christmas time there was a pretty spaced out period of me getting less active, and eventually not joining for around a month at a time. I believe that the group known as smh xd will be one that will be forgotten. I realized that with all the toxicity and hatred on the server I was better off maturing from it and realizing that I'm better than it, and for that, I thank SG. The Biggest Bros: Shado for being the funniest stoner Draco for being a down to earth psychopath Loki Be Lowkey for being a chill guy with logical reasoning URPALERP for being a teenager with a good sense of humor Astral for being capable of staying calm RISKYBACON for being a good person Blake for teaching me that a troll is worthless IrohJinnouchi for showing me a balance of humor and intellect and smh xd for showing me that there are people who can be your friends anywhere you go. Thank you, SG.

Fuze, thank you for clarifying things. My final question is simply, how are admins supposed to handle these situations without seeing exactly what the supposedly freekilled person saw? I'm fine with the fact that dong couldn't see that I was looking at the wall, but I don't want that to be the only perspective of judgement, maybe add some honor system for this specific kind of order (that doesn't already favor the ct giving the order). Orrrr, as an extremist alternative, change the directional order entirely so that if someone was not so obviously following the order they could be given a chance to show that they aren't looking in the wrong area. (half of this is salty feedback and the other half is actual curiosity so a response is appreciated.

Alright so recently I got killed for this order: "All t's line up shoulder to shoulder on the south wall of pool, face the wall and crouch." I was killed for looking at the wall at an angle. Now I've talked to some admins about this and they've all said that if you're cursor is facing the direction they tell you that it is considered following orders. I did exactly that and simply based on the CT's judgement and the admin RIGHT NEXT TO ME I was fairly killed for this exact reason. I was wondering whether this rule has changed or is going to change in any way seeing as the current state, while rare, does cause problems. (hoping for an answer from a higher up that will clarify this).

Guys... I was giving my two cents not asking for what incentive should be added. If I was talking about ways to improve the CT debate I would've put this in Suggestions. (I just want to hear your exaggerated opinions, not your solutions).

JB a land of chaos and fun, and while I do enjoy it I have to think of the dumbest questions. What the fuck is the incentive of playing CT? For starters you have 2x as many people going against you that are fucking bitching and moaning half the time, and you can't shoot them without a proper reason or at least one that won't make them shout. You have no clue as to whether a player has a pistol that they are planning to aim right at your head and are the next victim. There are many things that may help such as 100 armor and primaries to start with, but on some maps, that doesn't matter. I first questioned why people disliked the fact that T's could stand in each other, and now I understand because when a T stands inside 2-3 people it becomes an impenetrable freekill wall that is extremely annoying on the CT's side compared to the T's. While you do get to fill that gap in your life allowing you to force people to do certain things and now risk their lives (at 2:00 w/6+ people). There is the everlasting hatred of poor teamwork. With T's all you need is one person with a pistol to start a full blown rebellion that doesn't need organization. It is shown from the scoreboards ending up going to 14 T wins and not a single CT win. Now disregard everything said previously because of the only reward stupid enough to care about, FUCKING KD BROS. In all seriousness, I want to know other peoples opinions on why they play CT so comment if you have a reason, not to refute the things stated.

So I (sadly) know where this fake rule came from, I won't say their name but I will give this piece of advice. If you hear anyone that isn't admin or above say a rule, and it isn't directly in the !rules then please, get confirmation from an admin. A month or two ago I remember a trend of people making claims about rules that they heard from people who heard it from admins. Unless you have direct confirmation I suggest you shouldn't spread the idea of these rules (LR kos after round end, and pool catwalk is a catwalk meaning it is kos).

Video of me stuck above the vending machine outside. I got there by crouch jumping and grabbing the mac 10, but after a bunch of errors, I glitched into the platform and above the vending machine. I have no idea how this glitch even works or how it happens but its impeding my ability to play. EDIT: this happened when I grabbed the mac 10 through the platform (the faster way).

If any admin feels as though the first video is not allowed on the forums, I will gladly remove the post.

So for whatever reason, I was able to find different SG players on youtube videos. You can post your own videos of spotting people, but they cannot be from another sg member. ^Context^ Alright, I understand that this is not the best video to find a sg member in, but simply put, I am not saying you should cheat to do this, nor is the person uploading the video. The SG member is named Kiri The Corinthian(Hes inactive now) at 5:58-6:43. Once again I would like to state, I do not support the actions in the videos, I simply support the idea of laughing at people getting extremely angry. ^Context^ Member is named mx on the server or Maxxxx, and he was just doing a bit poorly in a bhop gamemode. That's all. 2:00-2:25 ^Context^ Start of the video the guy snagged Brian's gun, and then basically baited him later in the round.(Brian is an admin on SG). If you find any other videos, feel free to reply to the post with them. One last time I will say this, I do not support the actions done in the first video, and I am not trying to suggest that you should do them.

Just want to see the model of the fountain on both electric, and revamp because I aimed at someone that was behind it (but had full vision of them) for a wallbang shot (78) with an awp and I was wondering if that model would ever be fixed.