itt we discus philosophical theories

[uncle pep-pep]

why religion when there are more interesting facets to delve into?

such as how the string theory has such a strong impact on reality, or how we conceive it... and the evils of society also fall into the equation as well, although you have to be careful of where you touch base on that. there are so many more interesting things than religion let us agree to never speak of it again in this thread.

[Slavic]

 

I don't want to offend anyone, but I personally do not see the logical reasoning behind being religious. A religious person by definition is someone who denys the theory of Evolutionism (or any other theories). This means that they completely disregard any possibility that the Evolutionary theory is correct. Read what you are saying, its nuts........ I know a famous quote which gets your point across...."DOH".

 

You've got to be kidding me. I hope you do know that there are other religions out there besides fundamentalist Christianity, because that seems to be the only religion that you are making reference to. Not all religions disregard Evolution; Not all religions beleive "god" is a separate being; Not all religions follow a strict cannon of holy text.

 

Just to throw an example out there i'll talk about my religious beliefs to show that there are more religions then fundamentalist Christianity. My religious beliefs stem from pantheism (all-god). To keep things simple, it is my belief that god embodies all of reality, and all of reality embodies god. Us humans don't realize this because we have a very primitive conscious and confuse ourselves as being separate individual beings. My religious beliefs coincide with Evolution and do not follow a strict religious book and it has made me a more wholesome and ethical human being. Can you please tell me what is wrong with my religion because apparently religion is inherently evil in your own mind.

 

Thank you

[Lux]

You've got to be kidding me. I hope you do know that there are other religions out there besides fundamentalist Christianity, because that seems to be the only religion that you are making reference to. Not all religions disregard Evolution; Not all religions beleive "god" is a separate being; Not all religions follow a strict cannon of holy text.

 

Just to throw an example out there i'll talk about my religious beliefs to show that there are more religions then fundamentalist Christianity. My religious beliefs stem from pantheism (all-god). To keep things simple, it is my belief that god embodies all of reality, and all of reality embodies god. Us humans don't realize this because we have a very primitive conscious and confuse ourselves as being separate individual beings. My religious beliefs coincide with Evolution and do not follow a strict religious book and it has made me a more wholesome and ethical human being. Can you please tell me what is wrong with my religion because apparently religion is inherently evil in your own mind.

 

Thank you

 

WOW SLAVIC. Fucking hell people like to take my posts out of context. IF you read Huwajux's post before, in which my post was a response, you would see that I was MOCKING WHAT HE SAID, almost word for word. The words you are quoting me on are actually Huwajux's, but I switched Athiests with religious people. Seriously dude, your if you read the rest of my post you might of seen what my view is.....and I respect your religious view, it doesn't sound too bad to me. I know Christianity isn't the only religion, and I know they aren't all the same but in a way I had the mainstream religions in mind, but I was basically mocking Huwajux, but no you would choose to pick on the non religious person right???? LIKE EVERYONE DOES.

[broncoty]

hmmmm.

 

Is your glass half empty or half full?

[Huwajux]

Please explain how there is an overwhelming probability that there is a greater being. You can't so, don't suggest such things. You get defensive about me even mentioning proof yet you go and say something very close minded which doesn't really go with the whole "faith thing". Religious people are not more open minded, you could say that athiests are open-minded enough to accept that possibly evolutionism is the "true thing". Again close minded . Agnostics are open minded because they do not have a certain opinion either way, whilst athiests/religious dudes do believe in something, theres no middle apart from Agnostic. I guess you could say that you aren't sure either way but sway more to one, and personally I am an Agnostic swaying to the evolutionary side, but I've never said God IS NOT, or denied anything else without proof. If I do then I will probably look back and think "I was wrong", because from what I've seen the evolutionary side fits pretty well but, I haven't closed my mind completely.

Do not jump to such conclusions. Based off the mathematical theory of probability, the probability that God's existence is indeed real is extremely high. The same theory (It had obviously been adapted for use of God's existence) was primarily used to determine whether there is other intelligent life out there in the universe besides we humans and it was concluded that there was undoubtedly 'aliens' out there purely through mathematical reasoning. It was nice of you to try and turn the tables on me with this 'close-minded' stuff, I'm flattered.

 

Of course religious people are more open-minded. No, you couldn't say that athiests are open-minded enough to accept the possibility of evolutionism. Evolutionism stemmed from the science of biology, and since science is the study of what we determine to be 'facts', then there is little to no faith involved.

I don't want to offend anyone, but I personally do not see the logical reasoning behind being religious. A religious person by definition is someone who denys the theory of Evolutionism (or any other theories). This means that they completely disregard any possibility that the Evolutionary theory is correct. Read what you are saying, its nuts........ I know a famous quote which gets your point across...."DOH".

A religious person by definition is not someone who denies the theory of evolutionism, as Slavic has already stated before me. Turning to insults isn't going to get you very far in philosophical discussion, just a heads up.

I've understood this the whole time I do not need mind bashing, I've merely thought that this general theory is not legitimate in my mind. If it isn't a mainstream religion any theory needs proof, if I say "There is a gigantic cheese dog God" and say its my religion people will disregard it, but its no different to any other religion in the sense that all you have is faith. Huwajux I thought you had some OK points but, you showed me how wrong I was.

I was not making refference to you in this quote. However if you want me to respond, whether the definition is legitimate or not in your mind is your own comprehension and as I have said before, I am not here to 'convert' you to my way of thinking, I am here purely for discussion purposes.

 

Please don't go all defensive and start lashing out with insults, I thought that you would be mature enough to handle it. It has been a really interesting discussion so far so keep it up.

[Loganator456]

No, sorry, religious people are NOT more open minded. There is so much evidence during history and the present that I don't even have to bring up any points.

[Huwajux]

No, sorry, religious people are NOT more open minded. There is so much evidence during history and the present that I don't even have to bring up any points.

We aren't going down the road of stereotyping now, are we?

[Frostbyte]

hmmmm.

 

Is your glass half empty or half full?

 

Its just a glass of water IMO.

[Slavic]

No, sorry, religious people are NOT more open minded. There is so much evidence during history and the present that I don't even have to bring up any points.

 

I think history has shown us that most people arn't open minded, whether they be religious or not, and that is due to the fact that most people are indeed idiots.

[broncoty]

Its just a glass of water IMO.

 

and everyone wishes it had milk instead.