SpikedRocker Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 6242 Joined: 04/13/08 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 Theres actually a mathmatical equasion to answer your question: N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible; and R* is the average rate of star formation in our galaxy fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets ne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets fℓ is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space. This is known as the Drake Equation Plug the numbers in and you'll know how much life is in the universe. :-P The general accepted answer amung people who believe this could be a good estimate is: N = 7 × 0.5 × 2 × 0.33 × 0.01 × 0.01 × 10000 = 2.31 So estimated value, theres 1 other inteligent civilization outside of us somewhere in the universe. Link to comment
Jazz Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 4980 Joined: 06/20/08 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 Ok, teacher Mr. SpikedRocker Link to comment
trakaill Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 3736 Joined: 11/30/07 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 Theres actually a mathmatical equasion to answer your question: N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible; and R* is the average rate of star formation in our galaxy fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets ne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets fℓ is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space. This is known as the Drake Equation Plug the numbers in and you'll know how much life is in the universe. :-P The general accepted answer amung people who believe this could be a good estimate is: N = 7 × 0.5 × 2 × 0.33 × 0.01 × 0.01 × 10000 = 2.31 So estimated value, theres 1 other inteligent civilization outside of us somewhere in the universe. wow thats actually pretty cool!!! Link to comment
Justice... Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 958 Joined: 09/21/08 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 lol, you cant determine wether its 1 or 2 or 4 or 1000 or 0 other intelligent species out there by math. I mean, you just cant. Link to comment
Itch Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 3440 Joined: 12/12/07 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 Sure you can.. supposedly there is an infinite number of planets out there.. and a finite number would be inhabited. So if you divide an infinite number by a finite number the result is too small to be calculated. Thus total population = 0 and we don't exist. Link to comment
LVG Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 2238 Joined: 04/14/08 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 Theres actually a mathmatical equasion to answer your question: N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible; and R* is the average rate of star formation in our galaxy fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets ne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets fℓ is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space. This is known as the Drake Equation Plug the numbers in and you'll know how much life is in the universe. :-P The general accepted answer amung people who believe this could be a good estimate is: N = 7 × 0.5 × 2 × 0.33 × 0.01 × 0.01 × 10000 = 2.31 So estimated value, theres 1 other inteligent civilization outside of us somewhere in the universe. NERD Jk dont hurt me Link to comment
Huwajux Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 4198 Joined: 03/23/08 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 I heard that they discovered a frozen lake on one of the planets that could support life. You are talking about Europa. It's one of Jupiter's moons and the outer layer of it is a thick layer of ice since the planet's surface is about -276 degrees celcius (Off the top of my head). Underneath that ice is a vast ocean which is warm enough to support life. This reminded me of the philosophical thread that I still need to reply to, hehe. Link to comment
Justice... Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 958 Joined: 09/21/08 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 Sure you can.. supposedly there is an infinite number of planets out there.. and a finite number would be inhabited. So if you divide an infinite number by a finite number the result is too small to be calculated. Thus total population = 0 and we don't exist. so, because the math says so, there is us + 1 more intelligent race out there? Naww dont think so =) Link to comment
SpikedRocker Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 6242 Joined: 04/13/08 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 lol, you cant determine wether its 1 or 2 or 4 or 1000 or 0 other intelligent species out there by math. I mean, you just cant. The key thing here is these are estimations. Obviously its nearly impossible to count all the galaxys, stars, or planets and determine if they are in the habitable zones. But these are mainly estimations that gives people hope to finding intelligent life. You are talking about Europa. It's one of Jupiter's moons and the outer layer of it is a thick layer of ice since the planet's surface is about -276 degrees celcius (Off the top of my head). Underneath that ice is a vast ocean which is warm enough to support life. This reminded me of the philosophical thread that I still need to reply to, hehe. Europa has probably the most realistic source for life elsewhere in our solar system. Granted the surface is near absolute zero temperatures, but due to possible vulcanic activity in the core and Jupiters massivly strong magnetosphere causing crazy radiaton its possible about 100 miles under the surface there is liquid water. It hasn't been proved obviously no probe has drilled but its most likely to have it. The life forms on Europa are most likely non-inteligent but they would be considered life. My suggestion to anyone interested in stuff like this should catch "The Universe" on the History Channel...they have a whole episode dedicated to this. Link to comment
Sarah Posted March 6, 2009 Content Count: 1443 Joined: 06/03/08 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2009 Theres actually a mathmatical equasion to answer your question: N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible; and R* is the average rate of star formation in our galaxy fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets ne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets fℓ is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space. This is known as the Drake Equation Plug the numbers in and you'll know how much life is in the universe. :-P The general accepted answer amung people who believe this could be a good estimate is: N = 7 × 0.5 × 2 × 0.33 × 0.01 × 0.01 × 10000 = 2.31 So estimated value, theres 1 other inteligent civilization outside of us somewhere in the universe. seen it befor but its all theoretical but it would be stupid to think there aint life out there Link to comment
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