NVIDIA GeForce 190.62 WHQL Drivers Released

[Jager]

Sometimes I regret doing an ATI Build

 

I dont, not at all

 

after nivida screwed the pooch with their chip solder and epoxies i went as far away from them as i could, they "decided" not to take the effected chips out of the bins and basically gave the finger to thousands of customers and OEM's. course fixing the problems would bankrupt nvidia all together, but that should tell you how bad it is.

 

ati has its issues, but they at least so far havent been that crappy.

[Wrathek]

I dont, not at all

 

after nivida screwed the pooch with their chip solder and epoxies i went as far away from them as i could, they "decided" not to take the effected chips out of the bins and basically gave the finger to thousands of customers and OEM's. course fixing the problems would bankrupt nvidia all together, but that should tell you how bad it is.

 

ati has its issues, but they at least so far havent been that crappy.

 

not even. The way you've mentioned it twice tells me either you read some fear-monger article or it just happened to happen to you.

[Jager]

you really should go digging for the various articles on the issues the various news about all the macs and dells failing last year and the deal nvidia inked with the OEMs to minimize the damages before anyone knew the real costs to save themselves going bankrupt.

 

total cost was a few hundred million when the real price on chips if a true recall was handled was over 2 billion dollars

 

here I shall save you some digging

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/display/20090811124335_Sony_Nearly_Secretly_Admits_Flawed_Nvidia_Graphics_Chips_Are_Inside_Vaio_Notebooks.html

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10119277-64.html

 

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1013947/nvidia-should-defective-chips

 

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15720

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GPU-failure,6248.html

 

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39263/118/

 

 

I also ran a major hardware review site for several years, so while the general public wasn't informed loudly, Most IT staff and network people knew. My contacts at nvidia confirmed the issue and I can even explain it if you want me to save you some article reading above.

 

and yes i have had a nvidia card fail for tha reason as well as diagnose about 45 laptops a slew of desktops and ive lost count of the many motherboards that have been defective.

[Akaru]

you really should go digging for the various articles on the issues the various news about all the macs and dells failing last year and the deal nvidia inked with the OEMs to minimize the damages before anyone knew the real costs to save themselves going bankrupt.

 

total cost was a few hundred million when the real price on chips if a true recall was handled was over 2 billion dollars

 

here I shall save you some digging

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/display/20090811124335_Sony_Nearly_Secretly_Admits_Flawed_Nvidia_Graphics_Chips_Are_Inside_Vaio_Notebooks.html

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10119277-64.html

 

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1013947/nvidia-should-defective-chips

 

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15720

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GPU-failure,6248.html

 

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39263/118/

 

 

I also ran a major hardware review site for several years, so while the general public wasn't informed loudly, Most IT staff and network people knew. My contacts at nvidia confirmed the issue and I can even explain it if you want me to save you some article reading above.

 

and yes i have had a nvidia card fail for tha reason as well as diagnose about 45 laptops a slew of desktops and ive lost count of the many motherboards that have been defective.

 

Maybe you were really unlike as well. You get 1 Nvidia card and it fails on you. I've gotten like 4 Nvidia cards and none of them have failed on me. As you have proved, the soldering or whatever is bad on the chips. Even with this tragic event, my Nvidia cards are still running strong.

[Jager]

its not that the cards run or dont run akaru, its that randomly for reasons that should have never been allowed to leave the manufacturing floor, hundreds of thousands to millions of chips will up and die at a random time way before typical service end date ( approximately ten years is the general standard).

that is an issue that anyone long term reliability are really pissed about (businesses anyone and everyone was affected). not to mention any laptop owner with any nvidia chip for the past years. which almost cost Apple an entire product line of laptops worth millions.

 

oh the xbox crashing? one of the many red rings of death was nvidia chips with this issue. adding up the xboxes alone that crashed is simply staggering. and its all because someone decided to cut a corner, then lied about it until someone else cut a mac motherboard in half and sent to to be electron microscope scanned to prove the bad engineering.

 

 

I dont really care that my card died, I got another under warrenty, nor that the rma's etc for so many other parts and such, but every mac, dell, HP , and their various subsidiaries (xfx evga, etc) are all carrying around defective hardware if they have any nvidia parts for the past 3-4 years. those are the largest OEM's in the world atm and they all cant guarantee your card working for its intended lifespan because some engineering idiot failed to read the data on 2 parts. and if your card fails under normal use its generally well outside its warrenty , so any poor sod who got "unlucky" is out another card or mobo or entire laptop.

 

I do hope yours wont fail, as that is a royal pain in the ass, you can keep them alive longer by not shutting down your pc as much, or if you do, leaving it off for a long time period in between shutdowns and startups. the heating and rapid cooling of the chips is what breaks the pins and causes the failure.

[Wrathek]

unless nvidia made something i was unaware of, they had nothing to do with the 360 (they did for the original xbox), as ati made the xenos.

[Akaru]

unless nvidia made something i was unaware of, they had nothing to do with the 360 (they did for the original xbox), as ati made the xenos.

 

Correct. 360 are controlled by ATI.

[Danny G]

My computer was kinda fucked with the last version, everything got fucked so I formated my computer and downloaded the new version ;)