AMD Shows off 24 Panel Eyefinity on DirectX 11 Graphics Cards (VERY SEXY)

[Jager]

im not sure where you are coming from as far as the nvidia cards being better and similarly priced. an ati 4870 is comparable to a geforce 260 core 216. the ati card has better performance then the 216 at certain resolutions the 216 does better in others so depending on your monitors native resolution you may have better performance with one then the other. also depending on games.

 

the ati 4890 is supposed to be up against the gtx 275 yet the 4890 is cheaper and just as powerful (price war is going on so that is debatable every day, but when they were offered initially the 4890 was 249.99 the 275 was 289.99). most of the so called benchmark results that use synthetics (3dmark, pcmark, sisoftsandra etc) are all constantly fighting with video card companies that try to tweak the card to specifically look at their card more favorably then is actually true so basing all your purchasing information off of those is flawed.

 

would i turn someone away from nvidia, not at all, but if their gaming style and specs pointed them toward ati i certainly am not going to tell them they are wrong. its why reviews have multiple resolutions with multiple graphics settings and multiple games. so that people have a crosssection of how the cards play based on what they own, or close to it anyway. i game on a 27.5 inch monitor with a res of 1920x1200 with all my settings maxed on a ati 4890. why? because nvidia didn't have a card powerful enough at the time to handle those specs that wasn't another hundred dollars more expensive.( gtx 285) and the 275 didn't roll out til well after. and it was still more expensive then the 4890 i got (i paid 220 for mine shipped)

 

as far as flagships, the 295 is the king of the stack and will remain so. I wont ever buy one because id rather buy a dx11 card and be happy with my monitor and settings then spend that much for not that much more perceived performance. maybe more eyecandy on in the latest games, but for how much longer is it gonna be better then the next 300 dollar card ? 12 months at most... maybe 6. If you have the coin and want to do so, by all means but id rather save and rebuy better later.

 

no manufacturer has an oc friendly ironclad warranty that is in writing, period. not evga, not xfx, not sapphire, not ati or even nvidia themselves. you will find that they will cover it generally under the we don't mind that you do this, but there is no guarantee that they will cover it if you fry your card.

 

even if you are dealing with evga (arguably the best in the business), as long as the damage could have occurred from something outside your control they will warranty, but if its obviously related to OC (soldered vmods etc) then no most of the time those are not covered. and you can get great us based ati card partners, so unless you hate xfx they do both now. sapphire is in California and a few others as well as ati themselves.

 

again ive had cards from both sides, but i despise this constant annoyance of which side is better. for the longest time it was easy, ATI has the ability to do full screen anti aliasing and hdr, and nvidia couldnt, ergo if you wanted to run source games, you went ATI (3 years ago). that is actually still the case although not as noticeable, as the source engine is optimized for ati cards. where the quake engine and others based off it are nvidia based.

 

as far as comparisons akaru, you would compare the same cards in the same price brackets, so the gtx 260 core 216 is comparable to the ati 4870 1gig etc. you do actually compare outside of the flagship product because less then 2% of the people buying video cards over the life of the product line are going to buy the flagships many of the old flagship cards were more expensive to make then they were being sold at, so it actually lost money, and they were simply bragging rights cards. made up for by selling more lower end cards overall.

 

if you want to declare nvidia the winner based on flagship you would be right, if you want to tell me nvidia crushes ati across the board, you would get laughed out of any tech forum in the world.

ati has solid wins or ties from the 250 dollar price point down, they wont go ultra high end (they say) anymore so i dont see them ever killing nvidias flagship card crown. but you bet nvidia has been stung deeply by ati's card offerings, otherwise we wouldn't see the core 216, or the 275gtx cards amongst others that were specifically launched to fill a hole ati was dominating until that point.

[Akaru]

Tl;dr

 

Regardless Nvidia is better than ATI. That's exactly why ATI has to take the budget route. No one will buy their crappy products if they weren't prices like they currently are. And that is also why Nvidia can take the 600 dollar route. Their performance makes up for the the high price.

[Itch]

Tl;dr

 

Regardless Nvidia is better than ATI. That's exactly why ATI has to take the budget route. No one will buy their crappy products if they weren't prices like they currently are. And that is also why Nvidia can take the 600 dollar route. Their performance makes up for the the high price.

 

This proves your ignorance.. You refuse to read why you're wrong just so that you can pretend you're not wrong?

 

I am an NVidia Fanboy.. mostly because of my extensive experience dealing with driver problems and lack of support for "MOBILE" (laptop) ATI cards that have been a nightmare to get working and stable. That doesn't mean that in some areas ATI can't/doesn't beat NVidia it just means that for what I use NVidia is the better option in most cases. Will I tell someone who is on a limited budget not to buy ATI.. NO I won't. Because when it comes to bang for the buck ATI wins. If you are willing to spend a bit more for the performance and in the case of the laptop cards driver availability and stability (at least in my experience and I deal with a few hundred laptops a year) then absolutely buy NVidia. Does one win in all areas No.. nor do I think there will be an across the board winner ever.

[Red]

They need to make edgeless screens

[Itch]

They need to make edgeless screens

 

Indeed! Let's patent that shit now.

[ReGIONALS]

When people compare 2 companies, it's their flagship product (I think that's the right term). No one is going to compare a Nvidia GeForce 6600GT with a ATI Radeon HD 4870. It makes no sense. It's their 2 best products. For the graphics card part, Nvidia has GTX 295 and ATI has 4870 X2. This makes Nvidia better than ATI.

 

Same goes for processors. No one is going to compare a Intel Pentium 4 to a AMD Phenom II X4; if comparing Intel to AMD. Intel has the i7 975 Extreme Edition and AMD has the Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition. This makes Intel better than AMD.

 

also have you heard any talk of intel bringing out a 12 core CPU?

ive heard about AMD making one.... search it on overclock.net

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also red, ati has teamed up with samsung for a special monitor just for the eyefinity.

[Omar]

They need to make edgeless screens

 

Yes

Those god damn edges are so annoying.

[jazzy]

@ Jazzyy:

yeah, i see your points, but this is more about the 'wow factor' over the practicality of it. pretty much just eye candy and is indeed over the top.

 

holy shit, someone who DOESNT want to argue?

[Shadowex3]

While we're at it lets go back to 4:3 instead of widescreen. You get more screen area AND a higher resolution than 16:9/10 for the same number of inches. 2043x1536 beats the hell out of 1920x1080.

[Lux]

Why don't they just make one screen that big? Avoids there being gapes in the picture and the complications.