Nasu Posted February 2, 2010 Content Count: 2043 Joined: 12/31/09 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2010 Why get a TF2 server and never use it? It's to get things going and not let something die. When you get someone perfect its no fun to change things. Get balls and play deathgames. It will help rebels, rebel and might be fun. And how does this help rebelling? Link to comment
Illusion Posted February 2, 2010 Content Count: 32 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2010 No, we just enjoy the way our server has been running. We have formed our own opinions on the matter and aren't "blinded" by any means. Nice of you to assume though in your super cool blue text. You seem to be following the path of blaming the T's for the inability of CT's to create non-boring orders. What is wrong with having the current system of allowing death games with T permission? The CT's don't get a chance to kill off every T they can with little effort? Mad that you actually have to think besides spurting out a random death game to play? How can T's rebel the same as now in death games? The T's will already be in some place (pool, big cage, soccer, etc.) and CT's will be camping with AWPs and M4s. If the T doesn't participate, they are killed. If a T incorrectly participates, they are killed. It's just a matter of time before the T's try to rebel (and get gunned down by the CT's) or all of the T's except one die in the death game. You can guarantee it will be boring after the first few rounds of this and it isn't as easy as conventional orders given by CT's for the T's. The game is already fair the way it is. Giving the CT's authority to call death games assures that T's will only be playing in these death games each and every round because some newfags and neanderthals will want to run the show. Players on both teams already enjoy the server, so why mess it up to the point where only the CT's get the enjoyment out of it? A few boring rounds may occur, but that is up to the both the T's and CT's, not the current rules. People need to get over it and stop offering a short term solution to their issues of raging and impatience. It will quickly become a broken system that will need to be fixed in the days or weeks after its implementation and it sure as shit takes a long time for anybody to fix something here unless they are personally affected by it. Also, consider this. Whenever CT's ask if any T's want to do a deathgame, do all of the T's jump in line to play? From my experience, at most, give or take half of the T's that want to play in the death game. That means a good size of the T's do not want to play. If you force them to play the game, they are not going to enjoy themselves in the server and possibly not play as much (or seek another server). It seems the only team it benefits completely is...wait for it...building up tension....*drum roll please*... THE CT TEAM! The permission to shoot a T who does something wrong is just too good to pass up. Seems to be simple minded players on our servers, who would have thought? How often do we see non boring orders? Everytime I have been there it is boring and I just leave (explains why servers go from full to like 6 people) and you're saying he is being biased but look @ your own post from a different point of view. Talking smart doesn't make you right. I'm not starting a flame war just but think of the "other half." Link to comment
darth jacen Posted February 2, 2010 Content Count: 881 Joined: 08/10/08 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2010 How often do we see non boring orders? Everytime I have been there it is boring and I just leave (explains why servers go from full to like 6 people) and you're saying he is being biased but look @ your own post from a different point of view. Talking smart doesn't make you right. I'm not starting a flame war just but think of the "other half." fuck, seriously, you want good fun orders? i let the T's go somewhere, where guns are available and if they are not pussies then they have fun, too bad most of them are pussies, even more so then usual... BTW aren't you new? haven't seen you on PB ever...iv'e only been off for a week... Link to comment
Italian Jew Posted February 2, 2010 Content Count: 4473 Joined: 11/26/07 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) How often do we see non boring orders? Everytime I have been there it is boring and I just leave (explains why servers go from full to like 6 people) Let's see....last night there weren't any boring orders during the rounds I played. The night before that, there was one or two rounds where the T's got owned (T's own fault). The night before that the CT's struggled for any other orders besides stay past first cell for a few rounds before people switched teams. All in all, I say there was MAYBE 2 or 3 rounds of boring play. Maybe you just get on with shitty people or you yourself cannot think of anything creative. It's not our problem if people can't think. you're saying he is being biased but look @ your own post from a different point of view. I wasn't labeling him biased as much as I was pointing out the reasons why the argument is invalid and could cause more problems for a system that is perfectly fine the way it is. Instead of saying, "you're wrong because you think this way", I stated, "your idea is wrong because it is flawed by this way of thinking and here are some examples". There is a big difference there cupcake. I never stated I didn't have any bias, that portion of your argument is made moot. Everybody has some bias, so get over it. Talking smart doesn't make you right. No, it doesn't, but forming my argument in a "smart" way is a lot better than just complaining about something. Whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant because all I am doing is trying to prove a point which I think is right. Other people will always think it is wrong, so my idea or his idea aren't universally right or wrong. I'm not starting a flame war just but think of the "other half." I am thinking of the "other half" and they have it pretty good already. Their arguments they are trying to get across are that it is both fun and makes the round go faster. If it is always fun, why then do some T's not want to do it if they are asked to participate in a death game (current rules)? If it was so much fun, everyone would be jumping at the occasion. The only team that does always jump at the occasion is the CT team. This shows the interest or "fun" is more one sided. Their second point is that it would speed up the round because they can get soooooooooo boring. They fail to recognize the reason why a round would become boring and that is themselves. You cannot blame T's for not wanting to rush a wall of camping CT's with AWPs. Sometimes the T's somehow get and advantage and disrupt the CT's enough to win the round, other times the CT's blow away rebelling T's, and other times, it is a long drawn out round. Why would you expect the T's to do something to fix a problem the CT's caused? If they are bored, they can create orders to move the T's around, give them something to do, or even ask if any want to do a death game. Am I not thinking about the "other half" enough? Maybe if I ignore common sense, then I could be at that level. I dunno, what do you think? If you can't argue your own point, don't even try to talk about someone else's unless you know what you're doing. Anything else on your mind? 4 Edited February 2, 2010 by Italian Jew Link to comment
Bullet Wound Posted February 2, 2010 Content Count: 2390 Joined: 09/24/08 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2010 ------------My Conclusion------------ For those of you that are against Death Games; you have obviously been blinded by someone in the past that told you something different from Jail Break or Prison Break. Well duh, not like anyone around here can actually form a valid opinion that is different from your own. Clearly we all must be influenced by some mega-idiot out there who raged one day in prison break, we apologize greatly for not immediately submitting to your will. Now shut up. Link to comment
awesomebillfromdawsonvile Posted February 3, 2010 Content Count: 444 Joined: 07/07/07 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) Worst idea ever. Death games kill the mod for me. If I wanted to be shot for lack of jeopardy knowledge, Ill just go to one of the many hard gay pb servers that play death games. I prefer the current method where ppl who want to play them can and those who dont are not forced to. its lit IJ sayz If you want to spice things up, why don't you try giving better orders instead of jerking off in a corner with an AWP praying that one pulls out a gun and starts shooting. You might also want to try joining the T's and trying your luck at rebelling if you're so goddamned bored. The ONLY thing that needs changed on pb is the way cts give orders, If you really want to change somthing, try requiring the cts to move the ts around more then once a round. pb is a roleplaying game, deathgames are not. This server has always stood out to me as the best pb server. Death games would make it completely unplayable =( Edited February 3, 2010 by awesomebillfromdawsonvile Link to comment
bench Posted February 3, 2010 Content Count: 68 Joined: 12/11/09 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2010 deathgames are fun Link to comment
FaTaL FaZio Posted February 3, 2010 Content Count: 122 Joined: 02/03/10 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2010 Sounds good. I mean in my opinion i like simon says but w/e floats your boat xD Link to comment
turbodaze Posted February 4, 2010 Content Count: 301 Joined: 12/19/09 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2010 Worst idea ever. Death games kill the mod for me. If I wanted to be shot for lack of jeopardy knowledge, Ill just go to one of the many hard gay pb servers that play death games. I prefer the current method where ppl who want to play them can and those who dont are not forced to. its lit IJ sayz The ONLY thing that needs changed on pb is the way cts give orders, If you really want to change somthing, try requiring the cts to move the ts around more then once a round. pb is a roleplaying game, deathgames are not. This server has always stood out to me as the best pb server. Death games would make it completely unplayable =( Death Games make the mod fun. When T's go to the big cage, there is nothing to do but stand there or knife vent. Rebeling is hard cause normally someone is down in the vent and a op is in the face of everyone. Link to comment
Italian Jew Posted February 4, 2010 Content Count: 4473 Joined: 11/26/07 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) Death Games make the mod fun. When T's go to the big cage, there is nothing to do but stand there or knife vent. Rebeling is hard cause normally someone is down in the vent and a op is in the face of everyone. Option 1: Suck it up and rebel. Somebody is bound to have the jihad bomb and start something. Funny you should mention knifing the vent though because CT's can and will shoot you for that. Hey, there's your death game right there! Option 2: Join CT's and make better orders. Stop pretending that one circumstance is the entire summary of rounds played on that server. Having death won't help in that situation because you will most likely stay in the same cage jumping around until it is your turn to die. Guess what happens afterwards...the same thing, again and again and again. It solves nothing. I also think the fact that you cannot spell AWP correctly speaks volumes about your knowledge of the intricacies of the game. I don't mean to be so harsh, but it just doesn't help your case. 1 Edited February 4, 2010 by Italian Jew Link to comment
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