Admins no longer give warning shots

[Mad Dogg]

I love how yardy has completely ruined his reputation in one fateful post.

 

Lol´d.

[Xenon]

I do understand the warning shots,but when i T actually disobeys an order i kill them without warning shots and get yelled at by the person i killed or by an admin.Idk i really think this "warning shot" rule is just letting the T;s rebel even more,otherwise,it should be removed.

[Cookie]

...This conversation.. AGAIN? Do we REALLY need to go over what a fucking warning shot is?

 

Going to a different place after orders have been stated and no detours/delays stated is a direct disobey of orders and thus does not require warning shots. Since that was your only example given, I won't go into the retarded details of this stupid warning shot rule that everyone QQ's over(Seriously, i think we get more QQ with the WS rule then we do without it). Warning shots are for very little things, such as accidentally falling off big cage(granted "Do not fall off" was not given as an order, other wise you may be killed), having your foot outside bigcage, or maybe getting a little too close to a vent or something. When a T is directly disobeying your orders, by all means KILL HIM. Warning shots are for when an order is only partially disobeyed, specifically on accident.

 

Also, TBH it was even harder to get admin back with the old system. We had to get 80% of at least 20 people's votes from all Supporters and up, meaning the number of people's dicks we had to suck was far greater than the current ass-kissing number you'd have to do today(since the largest portion of the voting faction was knocked off).

 

thank you sir

[BlackEagle]

I would have to agree with Jazzyy on this. I also wouldn't just call out the admins for doing the freekilling and not giving warning shots, but I would blame some of them for lack of communication to the other players about warning shots. Overall I don't think the problem is bad at all I get warning shots on me about 95% of the time and get killed the other 5% without a warning shot. But I have seen what Jazzy is talking about.

[jazzy]

...This conversation.. AGAIN? Do we REALLY need to go over what a fucking warning shot is?

 

Going to a different place after orders have been stated and no detours/delays stated is a direct disobey of orders and thus does not require warning shots.

If we do that, then the whole idea of warning shots is ignored again, last time I checked, we wanted warning shots so that people don't die just because they didn't know where to go, which happens to a lot of the server, and a lot of the newer maps.

 

Since that was your only example given, I won't go into the retarded details of this stupid warning shot rule that everyone QQ's over(Seriously, i think we get more QQ with the WS rule then we do without it). Warning shots are for very little things, such as accidentally falling off big cage(granted "Do not fall off" was not given as an order, other wise you may be killed), having your foot outside bigcage, or maybe getting a little too close to a vent or something. When a T is directly disobeying your orders, by all means KILL HIM. Warning shots are for when an order is only partially disobeyed, specifically on accident.

Let's not forget you added the jihad mod, which makes it increasingly hard for us to warning shot someone who is rushing at us with a bomb. It makes CTs just want to stay back with an AWP, thats not fun.

 

Let's take Kappa for instance, we were sent to pool yesterday and I didn't hear the be in water rule, so i jumped up on the diving board (mind you this was lego jail) and was just sitting there, so he walks in, pops up oon the ladder and kills me. Now, I was in the pool area, just not in the water, is that a warrant for being killed automatically?

 

 

This isn't about the whole idea of warning shots, it's about how people no longer enforce them, and if you look at this thread there are few admins and players who agree with me on this. The people who aren't agreeing are admins themselves, and ones I never see on game itself, although I haven't been on much lately because of BC2.

Another thing is that warning shots aren't even REMOTELY enforced when they are broken, it's a slay, or if it's reported, it's a 6 hour ban. I doubt even admins would get a strike for breaking this, so why even bother reporting them? They wouldn't get punished no way no how.

[Desum]

Let's not forget you added the jihad mod, which makes it increasingly hard for us to warning shot someone who is rushing at us with a bomb. It makes CTs just want to stay back with an AWP, thats not fun.

 

Let's take Kappa for instance, we were sent to pool yesterday and I didn't hear the be in water rule, so i jumped up on the diving board (mind you this was lego jail) and was just sitting there, so he walks in, pops up oon the ladder and kills me. Now, I was in the pool area, just not in the water, is that a warrant for being killed automatically?

 

This isn't about the whole idea of warning shots, it's about how people no longer enforce them, and if you look at this thread there are few admins and players who agree with me on this. The people who aren't agreeing are admins themselves, and ones I never see on game itself, although I haven't been on much lately because of BC2.

Another thing is that warning shots aren't even REMOTELY enforced when they are broken, it's a slay, or if it's reported, it's a 6 hour ban. I doubt even admins would get a strike for breaking this, so why even bother reporting them? They wouldn't get punished no way no how.

 

(Keep in mind these statements are coming from someone who plays Terrorists more then 9/10ths of the time, so if someone says "He's just trying to make it easier for himself" ima punch them in the cock.)

On the pool thing; You directly disobeyed an order and should have been killed. Its not their fault you weren't listening. CTs give orders for a reason.

 

You wanna know why the warning shot is rarely enforced? It probably has something to do with the, i dunno... fact that probably 75% of the admins who actively play PB do not agree with the warning shot rule. Idk about admins not giving the warning shots(since i wasn't there at the time... though from the looks of it all your examples given are just you not understanding the warning shot rule), but by all means as it has been stated countless times before: Administration is not a job, its volunteerism. It is completely our choice if we choose to enforce a rule at any given moment.

 

Now, I'm not saying admins should just chillax while a hacker rampages across a server, but by all means for some little annoying rule like this we've no true obligation to enforce it.

 

and also, side-note, if someone reported an administrator for not giving warning shots, they'd receive the same punishment as a normal player... and depending on the severity of the situation, they most likely would not receive a strike.

 

To pretty much sum this whole thread up, people no longer really understand what a warning shot is. Warning shots are for very minor things where an order has barely been broken or about to be broken(I.E, holstered pistols). They are NOT for when an order has been completely broken(I.E, going towards the pool after "Go to soccer, no detours/delays" has been stated). So, CTs, if you see us clearly breaking a rule, deliberately or not, by all means feel free to kill us. I'm tired of the pussy CTs caught up with being nice and warning people while we swarm them and end the round in less than a minute. Like I said before, I think we get more QQ about what is a warning shot, but i did give him a warning shot, why'd i get noze warnin shotzz, etc etc then we did with just "wtf, i just had my foot outta the cage".

 

So, again, warning shots are for minor disobedience, not for direct disobedience of the orders. Thank you and good night.

[Eskomo]

I love all these SAs trying real hard to impress higher ups.

[Drox]

when someone makes a sweapout they dont ban instantly like the *new* admins

 

Who are you again? :S

 

 

Anyway, it isnt just admins who are lacking with the warning shots, normal players aswell so dont just blame admins for it since the real issue is pussies who always want to use the awp or scout. Then they try to warning shot with that like a big noob. lol

 

Honestly tho, dont take it personal on the server. Once you do you become nothing more then another drama queen in the ranks of our PB players.

[Bad Dog]

I love all these SAs trying real hard to impress higher ups.

 

I love how you miss the whole point of the thread. The SAs who are posting in this thread are arguing their opinion about a mod they love and play regularly.

[Bullet Wound]

I lol'd at how many admins are posting such stupid things.

 

A) If you play PB you would notice that people are in fact not giving warning shots like they used to

 

B) NOT MOVING IS A PASSIVE ACTION, IT IS NOT KILL-WORTHY. If you are ordered to go someone, and you don't move, a warning shot (should) be required, same as if you are near (not in) the required area, a warning shot again (should) be required.

 

C) Its common knowledge that admins care if they get no warning shots more than they care about others, its human nature, and they obviously can't keep track of everyone else in the server, so you can't blame them.

 

D) Stop thinking that every admin with an opinion on a matter is sucking up/QQ'ing, all it means is you have no opinion and are just trolling.

 

E) [i don't know why this was even in the conversation] Admin is no harder or easier than before, its just judged different, obviously with more people coming into the community, admin would be given out more often. Yes a lot of the new admins suck, but what'cha gonna do, some old admins suck too, they are just better at hiding it.

 

 

FYI Yardy, admin can't just be bought, stop trying to act like you know what you're talking about.