Paralyzed Posted September 19, 2010 Content Count: 3729 Joined: 10/14/07 Status: Offline Share Posted September 19, 2010 (edited) Map RemovalFull map name ttt_enclave_b1 Type of map Other Why should we remove it Well basically, this map is pretty fun to play on. It even includes a boat so that innocents can collects cans to escape, and Traitors needs to try to avoid this to happen. Well, as me and some other guys tried to get all cans collected a guy called 'communist' (who was detective) said trough microphone that he would shoot us if we don't drop the cans. We refused to drop as he doesn't make the rules, and it's all part of the map. Than he decided to kill us while he was a detective, and the Admins that were on around that time didn't felt like doing anything to against this RDM. One basically said, we should play TTT instead of collecting cans.. But what if it's part of the map, we can't help it? Than I felt like requesting to remove this map, because I don't like to get RDMed for something which isn't illegal as it's all part of the map. And since the Admins probably felt the same way and all of them didn't mind when we got RDMed I want this map to be removed. If they haven't seen we got RDMed by a detective that's fine, but a warning is atleast something that I expected which did not happen. Therefore this request for removal, because we can't collect the cans or else we get RDMed and some Admins don't mind eventho it's all part of the map. They basically create their own rules... So IMO, It doesn't have to be removed aslong as you can make clear to players/admins that they can't create their own rules in the future, just because they don't like the collecting cans in this map... Edited September 26, 2010 by Spartan Link to comment
Afamad 2.1 Posted September 19, 2010 Content Count: 920 Joined: 10/08/09 Status: Offline Share Posted September 19, 2010 Even though there is a big problem with the rules of the map, I don't agree with removing it. I made a thread in the rules discussion to see what the outcome is. Link to comment
Paralyzed Posted September 19, 2010 Content Count: 3729 Joined: 10/14/07 Status: Offline Share Posted September 19, 2010 Even though there is a big problem with the rules of the map, I don't agree with removing it. I made a thread in the rules discussion to see what the outcome is. As I said, I don't want it to be removed but if there is no other way and players/admins create their own rules in this map I don't see any other solutions. And yeah, Afamad also got RDMed by this detective. Link to comment
Bad Dog Posted September 19, 2010 Content Count: 3380 Joined: 02/07/09 Status: Offline Share Posted September 19, 2010 When the detective RDM'd you, I was a traitor and more preoccupied about not being caught, and I did not see you get RDMd and wasnt really aware of it until you PM'd the admins that it actually happened. Its not an illegal thing to do, collecting the barrels, yet somehow throwing them in the water is. I was killed quite a few times while I was throwing the cans into the water, maybe if you "2-3" guys (Its usually more like 6-9 who are actually grouped up by the boat/grabbing cans) didnt spend the round grabbing cans and waiting by the boat instead of actually playing the game, this problem wouldnt even arise. I dont condone what Communist did, but even still, instead of blaming us admins, the map, the rules, and the other players who are actually trying to play the game, how about you look at yourself. Because in actuality, you guys who spend the round grabbing and then guarding those cans are the ones at fault, in my book at least. Either way, feel free to grab those cans to your hearts content. Just dont kill me for throwing them in the water, because I can do that to my hearts content. And I will. Link to comment
Afamad 2.1 Posted September 19, 2010 Content Count: 920 Joined: 10/08/09 Status: Offline Share Posted September 19, 2010 I don't just spend my time grabbing cans. I bring 3 to the boat, guard them until the gas-pump opens up, and then I get the others. If I see any traitorous activity, I'll try to stop it. Link to comment
Bad Dog Posted September 19, 2010 Content Count: 3380 Joined: 02/07/09 Status: Offline Share Posted September 19, 2010 I don't just spend my time grabbing cans. I bring 3 to the boat, guard them until the gas-pump opens up, and then I get the others. If I see any traitorous activity, I'll try to stop it. Thats exactly the thing that we dont want happening. (We as in the players who are annoyed by this can grab/guard strategy). Link to comment
Paralyzed Posted September 19, 2010 Content Count: 3729 Joined: 10/14/07 Status: Offline Share Posted September 19, 2010 (edited) Thats exactly the thing that we dont want happening. (We as in the players who are annoyed by this can grab/guard strategy). It's actually a great opportunity for traitors to try to hunt the people down who are actually searching for cans. They might even hide the cans, so when someone looks for it they stab him in the back. And it's not like we've done it all rounds, I've tried it one round and already got RDMed by a detective... And it was just kinda cheeky that when I used the PM in-game to say we got RDMed by a detective, I didn't receive any response to this. The only response I've seen is that we needed to play TTT instead of searching cans. Which in my eyes was looking like that you didn't care about the RDM. I'm not saying you didn't, but thats how I felt like at that moment. There were more Admins, so I'm talking generally.. not only towards you. Edited September 19, 2010 by Paralyzed Link to comment
Metal Posted September 20, 2010 Content Count: 11728 Joined: 09/17/08 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2010 it is the job of INs to get the boat moving, the T's must stop them. That is basically the map. 3-4....bullshit. You guys are stupid.....this map isnt always about the cans. -.- Link to comment
Paralyzed Posted September 20, 2010 Content Count: 3729 Joined: 10/14/07 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2010 (edited) And yeah, I hereby want to say that this map shouldn't be removed. Yesterday night (for me) we played this map again and like 75% of the players were playing TTT + searching cans. None was camping at the dock, all was finding cans and none complained. And even the traitors jumped on the boat to kill the innocents as soon as the nuke came. If possible I'd like to remove/close this thread and get my post moved to the rules discussion in the thread about "ttt_enclave_b1" http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showpost.php?p=498022&postcount=1 thank you. Edited September 20, 2010 by Paralyzed Link to comment
Spartan Posted September 26, 2010 Content Count: 4550 Joined: 06/05/08 Status: Offline Share Posted September 26, 2010 Yes.... rejected. Link to comment
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