My thread for Jail Break

[bethy]

Hello, I am Katy Perry.

 

Hi, Katy Perry!

 

In here I'll share some ideas and opinions on the current status of the server. I will also present many suggestions.

 

To Joey Stalin - I realize I bring up some issues you did in your thread as well, I'm simply presenting a different perspective/opinion/option. (However I agree with most of what you said regardless)

 

1) Jihad Bomb

If after three rounds in which a terrorist holds the bomb but does not detonate it, it should be removed from that terrorist and eligible to buy again. I've seen games go the whole timer and not one bomb set off.

 

I like it better when it's not predictable and people forget that there is a bomb, this way when someone does have one they usually get a good amount of people because the CT's forgot about the bomb.

 

2) Terrorists muted/silenced

PLEASE. For the first 60 seconds at least. Every single time the next round starts there's a handful of whining retards and this conflicts with CT's giving orders.

 

I've been on the server a lot, and I can tell you that I've almost never seen this be that big of an issue. It happens sometimes, in which you can call an admin in to mute the players doing it.

 

3) Cells open before orders are given

Maybe this should result in a freeday? Terrorists running around randomly being given orders turns out bad typically.

- excuse me if this is already the case, I'm not 100% sure

 

This is NOT a rule. People like to say things are rules so they can get away with it, but this one isn't. A lot of the time the CT's don't get a chance to give orders because a T has already let us out of our cells. That would be a lot of freedays and would make it unfair to the CT's that want to give orders.

 

4) "DON'T COME NEAR ME OR I'LL SHOOT YOU *5 year old petrified voice*"

I've seen people wondering about where the line is drawn for this.

Verdict should be KNIFING DISTANCE. If the terrorist is that close after the order is given, he/she is a rebel.

 

If someone says that, odds are you shouldn't keep going near them. That is just asking to be killed.

 

5) CT Health - 115

NO. 100 is fine. If a ct at full health gets awped, the ct shouldn't have the chance to survive.

 

Yeah, sometimes they don't die when awp'd but at the same time, it makes the game more challenging for the T's. Especially on maps like razor where more challenge is needed.

 

6) Team balance

If the ratio isn't around 1:2 and is looking something like 4 ct's vs 18 t's (seen this countless times on razor..), make an auto-swap to ct. I understand this may be an issue with unexperienced t's being moved, but I see a lot of familiar faces on the server so hopefully that would be an advancement. I've also seen the " 4 vs 18 " situation with admins around as well. Admins, stop telling people to switch teams and shit, you have the power for a reason; MOVE THEM TO CT.

 

I tell people to switch to CT, because I don't want to move people that aren't capable to CT. That just causes issues in many ways. I'm a horrible CT, and I usually end up shooting people that I shouldn't. So I always choose to play T. If someone forced me to play the team I didn't enjoy, I would most likely leave the server. I want everyone to enjoy playing on the server, because that's what games are for.

 

6) Maps

Call me ungrateful, but the SG map list isn't that big. I've seen other servers with a large galore of different maps etc. Maps that get RTV'd very swiftly should be removed (rapeus, hellzprison, water) - don't call me a newfag, I was around for rapeus, hellzprison, fox shadow/river, and many others I can't remember at this moment. These maps prove pointless to a large majority of the players which is why I say it. Following up, they need to be replaced with newer/different ones.

 

There is a map request section on this forum, if you find some good maps that you would like added to the server, I would have no issue reviewing them. You can also request to remove a map, which I also have no issue with if the majority agrees with it. Here is the link to that section : Map Suggestions/Removals

 

7) Skins

Exactly what Joey said in his thread.. why are skins still a bald medic? They should look like a prisoner yes? *facepalm* The DON/SUP skin is along the lines of a prisoner.. I think someone suggested the orange suit which is also a good skin. Switch this up please.

 

To me, those orange suit skins look tacky. I've looked at them many times, but I like the ones we have a lot better. I've talked to quite a few regulars and regular admins about the skins, and they prefer the ones we have now to the orange skins.

 

8) Block vs No-block

I think SG is the only PB server I've been on with block, it doesn't make sense really.

Rebels have a hard time navigating around retards very frequently, prisoners block exit of cells, prisoners block entrances to places on purpose.. conflicts with orders (ALL T'S TO GO MEDIC --> DUMBASS BLOCKING MEDIC ENTRANCE --> CAN'T SHOOT THE GUY THAT'S BLOCKING --> C A T A S T R O P H E. It's an issue.. someone's t's being blocked are even freekilled because some ct's fail to see that.

 

Block has it's perks and it can also be annoying. But I don't see it being removed any time soon. It's good for when T's want to boost each other up, which is very useful.

 

9) Admins

Honestly, I don't expect 24/7 admin attention in the server, but it would be a good improvement for freekillers etc if there was more attention than there is currently. The most common admins I see in PB is usually phonicz or xoul, phonicz whom I never see any justification from when it comes to slaying etc, and xoul who talks shit the whole time because he's really good at prison break.

 

I don't really know what could fix that but my idea would be look to well behaved, common/older PB players for admin nominees.. someone like Karnivor comes to my mind, I think he'd be suitable.

 

I play there, and I punish people I see breaking the rules. But we can't punish what we don't see. So yeah, we may miss a few freekillers here and there, just tell us in admin chat who is freekilling so that we can watch. You can also add admins to your friends list, which I am on your friends list, and call them into the server when you have an issue with players breaking the rules. Or come on this forum and post in the chat box that you need an admin in PB. There is usually at least one on to come and help you out.

 

10) Death games

This is another "countless times" situation.. ct's with experience in jail break come from a different server and start a death game. Relative to #8, most every other jail server I go to, there's no option for it.

 

Why are they optional? For twelve year olds to run around in disco the whole round because that's their personal idea of fun? They can create their own server and do that if they like to be honest..

 

The game needs to be slightly more fast paced.. Not everyone enjoys waiting 5 minutes staring at idiots that refuse to participate.

 

Usually, most death games are highly unfair. Fish in the water? Or whatever the fuck it's called is all pretty much luck. Shooting into all the T's til it's just one left is a ridiculous game. There are quite a few more. Like typing a movie you like and if the person doing the death game doesn't like it, you die. What the fuck is that? How is that fun? I'd rather jump in the disco doing nothing than die because my taste is different that someone else.

 

11) Hosties and last request system

Another countless times situation..a terrorist will be the last or one of the two last prisoners and start typing "!lr"

It makes EVERYTHING very simplistic in which only someone with the iq of below 60 couldn't figure out.

 

For those that haven't used the system, when you type !lr, you are given a list to choose the LR, then choose a ct to do it with.

 

This also gives more assurance to death games as it's through the system, a few examples would be

- no scope battles

- dodgeball (smoke grenade at 1 hp)

- races (with markers etc)

- deagle toss markers indicated (no confusion)

- long jumps

- who takes their S4S shot

etc...

 

I like it better when I can say I'm doing a deagle toss with someone, and just headshot them with the deagle before ever playing. I don't think the !lr thing is needed, as most of the time people just decide what they want to do without it.

 

12) Round time

Increase it from 5 to 7 or 8 minutes.

I understand this to some extent contradicts when I said "I get bored staring at retards", but if issues I addressed previously turn out that way, rounds would be much faster paced, the round extension is for people doing lr's or something. (Much better watching an lr opposed to sitting still laughing that they're doing nothing and the only t alive)

 

I don't think it needs to be any longer, as usually by the end of 5 minutes it's down to one CT and he's camping somewhere waiting for the T's to come find him. And if someone freekills, you have to wait 8 minutes to play again which also is a bit excessive.

 

13) WARNING SHOTS

Where the fuck is the line drawn for this? Allow me to present some common sense.

"crouch to pool no d/d" - if a t isn't crouching but going to pool (run/walk), that's a warning

if the t is running in a different direction heading for a teleport or something like that, that should be a kill..

 

If I say "be in the water" and they aren't in the water, that's disobeying a pretty direct order and pretty simple one to be honest. T's should be killed for disobeying a very simple order...

 

The times when you should warning shot, IMO, should be cut in half. I (and others I imagine..)

 

I hear people yelling every time someone dies for a warning shot, holy shit, most times the T deserves to die and is blatantly a rebel..

 

The rules/motd regarding warnings should be revised a little.. they shouldn't be given SO OFTEN to TERRORISTS IN PRISON.

 

Warning shots are for the harmless rebellions. Say the order is to crouch to the solitary and someone is running there, warning shot them to crouch. But if they are going the complete opposite way of where they are told, I don't see why you should warning shot them.

 

Criticize, flame, support, whatever. But I respect all justified opinions, so respect mine.

Might update later, but this is what comes to mind for now.

 

Bye, Katy Perry.

 

 

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[darth jacen]

1) Jihad Bomb

If after three rounds in which a terrorist holds the bomb but does not detonate it, it should be removed from that terrorist and eligible to buy again. I've seen games go the whole timer and not one bomb set off.

 

I don't think we should have it at all, but I like this idea if we must have the bombs.

 

2) Terrorists muted/silenced

PLEASE. For the first 60 seconds at least. Every single time the next round starts there's a handful of whining retards and this conflicts with CT's giving orders.

 

 

I support this unless they are Admins, they may have to address CT's

 

3) Cells open before orders are given

Maybe this should result in a freeday? Terrorists running around randomly being given orders turns out bad typically.

- excuse me if this is already the case, I'm not 100% sure

 

 

No, it is not the case and never should be. Period.

 

4) "DON'T COME NEAR ME OR I'LL SHOOT YOU *5 year old petrified voice*"

I've seen people wondering about where the line is drawn for this.

Verdict should be KNIFING DISTANCE. If the terrorist is that close after the order is given, he/she is a rebel.

 

 

No, this is not an order, never should be, and never will be.

 

5) CT Health - 115

NO. 100 is fine. If a ct at full health gets awped, the ct shouldn't have the chance to survive.

 

 

I prefer 115, but it doesn't really matter to me.

 

6) Team balance

If the ratio isn't around 1:2 and is looking something like 4 ct's vs 18 t's (seen this countless times on razor..), make an auto-swap to ct. I understand this may be an issue with unexperienced t's being moved, but I see a lot of familiar faces on the server so hopefully that would be an advancement. I've also seen the " 4 vs 18 " situation with admins around as well. Admins, stop telling people to switch teams and shit, you have the power for a reason; MOVE THEM TO CT.

 

 

Too large a risk of free killing to make a script. Admins are not infallible, people get pissed when switched and can cause issues. Be the bigger man and just fucking switch.

 

6) Maps

Call me ungrateful, but the SG map list isn't that big. I've seen other servers with a large galore of different maps etc. Maps that get RTV'd very swiftly should be removed (rapeus, hellzprison, water) - don't call me a newfag, I was around for rapeus, hellzprison, fox shadow/river, and many others I can't remember at this moment. These maps prove pointless to a large majority of the players which is why I say it. Following up, they need to be replaced with newer/different ones.

 

 

Many PB maps are shit. We cut our list because it was littered with poor maps. If you want to learn SDK and update older maps, have at, but besides that we have map suggestion section. Go there with ideas.

 

7) Skins

Exactly what Joey said in his thread.. why are skins still a bald medic? They should look like a prisoner yes? *facepalm* The DON/SUP skin is along the lines of a prisoner.. I think someone suggested the orange suit which is also a good skin. Switch this up please.

 

 

Does it really matter? It's the skin on a default model. Is it affecting your enjoyment that fucking much?

 

8) Block vs No-block

I think SG is the only PB server I've been on with block, it doesn't make sense really.

Rebels have a hard time navigating around retards very frequently, prisoners block exit of cells, prisoners block entrances to places on purpose.. conflicts with orders (ALL T'S TO GO MEDIC --> DUMBASS BLOCKING MEDIC ENTRANCE --> CAN'T SHOOT THE GUY THAT'S BLOCKING --> C A T A S T R O P H E. It's an issue.. someone's t's being blocked are even freekilled because some ct's fail to see that.

 

 

Block is a must. A good CT can solve situations like that. Otherwise, demo it, there is a rule against intentionally blocking players, assuming the "Don't block" rule still applies. Hasn't been an issue for a long time.

 

9) Admins

Honestly, I don't expect 24/7 admin attention in the server, but it would be a good improvement for freekillers etc if there was more attention than there is currently. The most common admins I see in PB is usually phonicz or xoul, phonicz whom I never see any justification from when it comes to slaying etc, and xoul who talks shit the whole time because he's really good at prison break.

 

 

Yeah, cause I don't play PB daily and Korean and and and. The fact that you only see two doesn't mean it is true. Free killers will free kill. I would rather have them free kill and be banned rather than deter it. Just get them the fuck out of the servers, but it's just me.

 

I don't really know what could fix that but my idea would be look to well behaved, common/older PB players for admin nominees.. someone like Karnivor comes to my mind, I think he'd be suitable.

 

 

Well if people knew him he might be. The fact he rolls under about 6 different names doesn't help.

 

10) Death games

This is another "countless times" situation.. ct's with experience in jail break come from a different server and start a death game. Relative to #8, most every other jail server I go to, there's no option for it.

 

 

There is, if they agree, they can do it. I support some death games, but I like the rules as is.

 

Why are they optional? For twelve year olds to run around in disco the whole round because that's their personal idea of fun? They can create their own server and do that if they like to be honest..

 

The game needs to be slightly more fast paced.. Not everyone enjoys waiting 5 minutes staring at idiots that refuse to participate.

 

 

Then get a book or be productive. Just because you are an ADHD riddled person doesn't mean we should change the rules because you can't sit still for a few minutes.

 

11) Hosties and last request system

Another countless times situation..a terrorist will be the last or one of the two last prisoners and start typing "!lr"

It makes EVERYTHING very simplistic in which only someone with the iq of below 60 couldn't figure out.

 

 

Tried it before and the script messes with other things on the PB server. Also, highlights rebels, kills a type of strategy.

 

For those that haven't used the system, when you type !lr, you are given a list to choose the LR, then choose a ct to do it with.

 

This also gives more assurance to death games as it's through the system, a few examples would be

- no scope battles

- dodgeball (smoke grenade at 1 hp)

- races (with markers etc)

- deagle toss markers indicated (no confusion)

- long jumps

- who takes their S4S shot

etc...

 

12) Round time

Increase it from 5 to 7 or 8 minutes.

I understand this to some extent contradicts when I said "I get bored staring at retards", but if issues I addressed previously turn out that way, rounds would be much faster paced, the round extension is for people doing lr's or something. (Much better watching an lr opposed to sitting still laughing that they're doing nothing and the only t alive)

 

 

You said that the game should be faster paced, yet want longer round time... think that one through. Yes, I see you acknowledged it, but still. Your earlier suggestion wouldn't speed rounds, just add free killing issues. Point is, leave it as it is.

 

13) WARNING SHOTS

Where the fuck is the line drawn for this? Allow me to present some common sense.

"crouch to pool no d/d" - if a t isn't crouching but going to pool (run/walk), that's a warning

if the t is running in a different direction heading for a teleport or something like that, that should be a kill..

 

If I say "be in the water" and they aren't in the water, that's disobeying a pretty direct order and pretty simple one to be honest. T's should be killed for disobeying a very simple order...

 

The times when you should warning shot, IMO, should be cut in half. I (and others I imagine..)

 

I hear people yelling every time someone dies for a warning shot, holy shit, most times the T deserves to die and is blatantly a rebel..

 

 

When you play T and some guy shoots you in the face for standing up because of this, you will understand why it is as it is currently.

 

The rules/motd regarding warnings should be revised a little.. they shouldn't be given SO OFTEN to TERRORISTS IN PRISON.

[Epsilon]

I agree with some stuff you said

 

Warning Shots:

If they are running anywhere they aren't supposed to then go ahead an load a few rounds into them

But if you are typing stuff then you don't want to be in the water because you start to lose health(some people type slow myself included) and some CT's don't like to let people heal

 

LR's:

I haven't actually played on any other PB server so I don't know this works but I'd prefer if some CT just gave me a fully loaded Deagle that I will load into his face rather than playing the LR (

 

Jihad Bombs:

I love these...

But yeah sometimes it comes down to circumstance someone might buy one and immediately the CT's are getting raped all over and you don't get a chance to use and then its no fair that you lose it even though you never got the chance to use it, there was a thread dedicated to this somewhere

Or some dick decides he is going CT with the bomb and jihads T's

 

Maps:

I agree and matter of fact I have a ton of maps i accidentally downloaded (don't ask how I accidentally download stuff it just happens) for PB after I check them out I will post them up to be reviewed

 

Deathgames:

yeah, what Beth said...

 

As for the free kills that's why we have demos and screenshots

[t8rtits]

1) Jihad Bomb

If after three rounds in which a terrorist holds the bomb but does not detonate it, it should be removed from that terrorist and eligible to buy again. I've seen games go the whole timer and not one bomb set off.

 

I don't think we should have it at all, but I like this idea if we must have the bombs.

 

the jihad is nice occasionally, but i dont think it should carry over from map to map

 

2) Terrorists muted/silenced

PLEASE. For the first 60 seconds at least. Every single time the next round starts there's a handful of whining retards and this conflicts with CT's giving orders.

 

 

I support this unless they are Admins, they may have to address CT's

 

60 seconds is WAY to long, i would support maybe 15 - 20 seconds, but orders that take longer than that are JUST WAY TO CONFUSING

 

3) Cells open before orders are given

Maybe this should result in a freeday? Terrorists running around randomly being given orders turns out bad typically.

- excuse me if this is already the case, I'm not 100% sure

 

 

No, it is not the case and never should be. Period.

 

4) "DON'T COME NEAR ME OR I'LL SHOOT YOU *5 year old petrified voice*"

I've seen people wondering about where the line is drawn for this.

Verdict should be KNIFING DISTANCE. If the terrorist is that close after the order is given, he/she is a rebel.

 

 

No, this is not an order, never should be, and never will be.

 

that little kid annoys me as much as the next person, but, JUST STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM HIM

 

5) CT Health - 115

NO. 100 is fine. If a ct at full health gets awped, the ct shouldn't have the chance to survive.

 

 

I prefer 115, but it doesn't really matter to me.

 

does it really matter, if you get AWPed in the face your still going to die

 

6) Team balance

If the ratio isn't around 1:2 and is looking something like 4 ct's vs 18 t's (seen this countless times on razor..), make an auto-swap to ct. I understand this may be an issue with unexperienced t's being moved, but I see a lot of familiar faces on the server so hopefully that would be an advancement. I've also seen the " 4 vs 18 " situation with admins around as well. Admins, stop telling people to switch teams and shit, you have the power for a reason; MOVE THEM TO CT.

 

 

Too large a risk of free killing to make a script. Admins are not infallible, people get pissed when switched and can cause issues. Be the bigger man and just fucking switch.

 

6) Maps

Call me ungrateful, but the SG map list isn't that big. I've seen other servers with a large galore of different maps etc. Maps that get RTV'd very swiftly should be removed (rapeus, hellzprison, water) - don't call me a newfag, I was around for rapeus, hellzprison, fox shadow/river, and many others I can't remember at this moment. These maps prove pointless to a large majority of the players which is why I say it. Following up, they need to be replaced with newer/different ones.

 

 

Many PB maps are shit. We cut our list because it was littered with poor maps. If you want to learn SDK and update older maps, have at, but besides that we have map suggestion section. Go there with ideas.

 

7) Skins

Exactly what Joey said in his thread.. why are skins still a bald medic? They should look like a prisoner yes? *facepalm* The DON/SUP skin is along the lines of a prisoner.. I think someone suggested the orange suit which is also a good skin. Switch this up please.

 

 

Does it really matter? It's the skin on a default model. Is it affecting your enjoyment that fucking much?

 

i dont see myself, so i really dont care

 

8) Block vs No-block

I think SG is the only PB server I've been on with block, it doesn't make sense really.

Rebels have a hard time navigating around retards very frequently, prisoners block exit of cells, prisoners block entrances to places on purpose.. conflicts with orders (ALL T'S TO GO MEDIC --> DUMBASS BLOCKING MEDIC ENTRANCE --> CAN'T SHOOT THE GUY THAT'S BLOCKING --> C A T A S T R O P H E. It's an issue.. someone's t's being blocked are even freekilled because some ct's fail to see that.

 

 

Block is a must. A good CT can solve situations like that. Otherwise, demo it, there is a rule against intentionally blocking players, assuming the "Don't block" rule still applies. Hasn't been an issue for a long time.

 

NO-BLOCK SUCKS ASS, 1 day and everyone hated it, need i say more

 

9) Admins

Honestly, I don't expect 24/7 admin attention in the server, but it would be a good improvement for freekillers etc if there was more attention than there is currently. The most common admins I see in PB is usually phonicz or xoul, phonicz whom I never see any justification from when it comes to slaying etc, and xoul who talks shit the whole time because he's really good at prison break.

 

 

Yeah, cause I don't play PB daily and Korean and and and. The fact that you only see two doesn't mean it is true. Free killers will free kill. I would rather have them free kill and be banned rather than deter it. Just get them the fuck out of the servers, but it's just me.

 

i don't see what the problem really is with having an admin on 24/7 BUT i do see a lot of admins on and off other than those you've named, your just not sure who they are

 

I don't really know what could fix that but my idea would be look to well behaved, common/older PB players for admin nominees.. someone like Karnivor comes to my mind, I think he'd be suitable.

 

 

Well if people knew him he might be. The fact he rolls under about 6 different names doesn't help.

 

10) Death games

This is another "countless times" situation.. ct's with experience in jail break come from a different server and start a death game. Relative to #8, most every other jail server I go to, there's no option for it.

 

 

There is, if they agree, they can do it. I support some death games, but I like the rules as is.

 

Why are they optional? For twelve year olds to run around in disco the whole round because that's their personal idea of fun? They can create their own server and do that if they like to be honest..

 

The game needs to be slightly more fast paced.. Not everyone enjoys waiting 5 minutes staring at idiots that refuse to participate.

 

 

Then get a book or be productive. Just because you are an ADHD riddled person doesn't mean we should change the rules because you can't sit still for a few minutes.

 

 

AND YOU WANT IT LONGER?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

 

 

11) Hosties and last request system

Another countless times situation..a terrorist will be the last or one of the two last prisoners and start typing "!lr"

It makes EVERYTHING very simplistic in which only someone with the iq of below 60 couldn't figure out.

 

 

Tried it before and the script messes with other things on the PB server. Also, highlights rebels, kills a type of strategy.

 

that just seems like you want it more like some of the other servers, if you like them better, GO PLAY THERE

 

For those that haven't used the system, when you type !lr, you are given a list to choose the LR, then choose a ct to do it with.

 

This also gives more assurance to death games as it's through the system, a few examples would be

- no scope battles

- dodgeball (smoke grenade at 1 hp)

- races (with markers etc)

- deagle toss markers indicated (no confusion)

- long jumps

- who takes their S4S shot

etc...

 

12) Round time

Increase it from 5 to 7 or 8 minutes.

I understand this to some extent contradicts when I said "I get bored staring at retards", but if issues I addressed previously turn out that way, rounds would be much faster paced, the round extension is for people doing lr's or something. (Much better watching an lr opposed to sitting still laughing that they're doing nothing and the only t alive)

 

 

You said that the game should be faster paced, yet want longer round time... think that one through. Yes, I see you acknowledged it, but still. Your earlier suggestion wouldn't speed rounds, just add free killing issues. Point is, leave it as it is.

 

TOTAL CONTRADICTION TO 10

 

13) WARNING SHOTS

Where the fuck is the line drawn for this? Allow me to present some common sense.

"crouch to pool no d/d" - if a t isn't crouching but going to pool (run/walk), that's a warning

if the t is running in a different direction heading for a teleport or something like that, that should be a kill..

 

If I say "be in the water" and they aren't in the water, that's disobeying a pretty direct order and pretty simple one to be honest. T's should be killed for disobeying a very simple order...

 

The times when you should warning shot, IMO, should be cut in half. I (and others I imagine..)

 

I hear people yelling every time someone dies for a warning shot, holy shit, most times the T deserves to die and is blatantly a rebel..

 

 

When you play T and some guy shoots you in the face for standing up because of this, you will understand why it is as it is currently.

 

I have gotten a TON of warning shots in the head with an AWP, i think that warning shots shuld be done with a pistol, NOT AN AWP

 

The rules/motd regarding warnings should be revised a little.. they shouldn't be given SO OFTEN to TERRORISTS IN PRISON.

 

.....

[mapper]

Agreed with Beth and Jacen. (What a wall of text btw=P)

[nickzilla]

1) Jihad Bomb

If after three rounds in which a terrorist holds the bomb but does not detonate it, it should be removed from that terrorist and eligible to buy again. I've seen games go the whole timer and not one bomb set off.

 

I don't think we should have it at all, but I like this idea if we must have the bombs.

 

2) Terrorists muted/silenced

PLEASE. For the first 60 seconds at least. Every single time the next round starts there's a handful of whining retards and this conflicts with CT's giving orders.

 

 

I support this unless they are Admins, they may have to address CT's

 

3) Cells open before orders are given

Maybe this should result in a freeday? Terrorists running around randomly being given orders turns out bad typically.

- excuse me if this is already the case, I'm not 100% sure

 

 

No, it is not the case and never should be. Period.

 

4) "DON'T COME NEAR ME OR I'LL SHOOT YOU *5 year old petrified voice*"

I've seen people wondering about where the line is drawn for this.

Verdict should be KNIFING DISTANCE. If the terrorist is that close after the order is given, he/she is a rebel.

 

 

No, this is not an order, never should be, and never will be.

 

5) CT Health - 115

NO. 100 is fine. If a ct at full health gets awped, the ct shouldn't have the chance to survive.

 

 

I prefer 115, but it doesn't really matter to me.

 

6) Team balance

If the ratio isn't around 1:2 and is looking something like 4 ct's vs 18 t's (seen this countless times on razor..), make an auto-swap to ct. I understand this may be an issue with unexperienced t's being moved, but I see a lot of familiar faces on the server so hopefully that would be an advancement. I've also seen the " 4 vs 18 " situation with admins around as well. Admins, stop telling people to switch teams and shit, you have the power for a reason; MOVE THEM TO CT.

 

 

Too large a risk of free killing to make a script. Admins are not infallible, people get pissed when switched and can cause issues. Be the bigger man and just fucking switch.

 

6) Maps

Call me ungrateful, but the SG map list isn't that big. I've seen other servers with a large galore of different maps etc. Maps that get RTV'd very swiftly should be removed (rapeus, hellzprison, water) - don't call me a newfag, I was around for rapeus, hellzprison, fox shadow/river, and many others I can't remember at this moment. These maps prove pointless to a large majority of the players which is why I say it. Following up, they need to be replaced with newer/different ones.

 

 

Many PB maps are shit. We cut our list because it was littered with poor maps. If you want to learn SDK and update older maps, have at, but besides that we have map suggestion section. Go there with ideas.

 

7) Skins

Exactly what Joey said in his thread.. why are skins still a bald medic? They should look like a prisoner yes? *facepalm* The DON/SUP skin is along the lines of a prisoner.. I think someone suggested the orange suit which is also a good skin. Switch this up please.

 

 

Does it really matter? It's the skin on a default model. Is it affecting your enjoyment that fucking much?

 

8) Block vs No-block

I think SG is the only PB server I've been on with block, it doesn't make sense really.

Rebels have a hard time navigating around retards very frequently, prisoners block exit of cells, prisoners block entrances to places on purpose.. conflicts with orders (ALL T'S TO GO MEDIC --> DUMBASS BLOCKING MEDIC ENTRANCE --> CAN'T SHOOT THE GUY THAT'S BLOCKING --> C A T A S T R O P H E. It's an issue.. someone's t's being blocked are even freekilled because some ct's fail to see that.

 

 

Block is a must. A good CT can solve situations like that. Otherwise, demo it, there is a rule against intentionally blocking players, assuming the "Don't block" rule still applies. Hasn't been an issue for a long time.

 

9) Admins

Honestly, I don't expect 24/7 admin attention in the server, but it would be a good improvement for freekillers etc if there was more attention than there is currently. The most common admins I see in PB is usually phonicz or xoul, phonicz whom I never see any justification from when it comes to slaying etc, and xoul who talks shit the whole time because he's really good at prison break.

 

 

Yeah, cause I don't play PB daily and Korean and and and. The fact that you only see two doesn't mean it is true. Free killers will free kill. I would rather have them free kill and be banned rather than deter it. Just get them the fuck out of the servers, but it's just me.

 

I don't really know what could fix that but my idea would be look to well behaved, common/older PB players for admin nominees.. someone like Karnivor comes to my mind, I think he'd be suitable.

 

 

Well if people knew him he might be. The fact he rolls under about 6 different names doesn't help.

 

10) Death games

This is another "countless times" situation.. ct's with experience in jail break come from a different server and start a death game. Relative to #8, most every other jail server I go to, there's no option for it.

 

 

There is, if they agree, they can do it. I support some death games, but I like the rules as is.

 

Why are they optional? For twelve year olds to run around in disco the whole round because that's their personal idea of fun? They can create their own server and do that if they like to be honest..

 

The game needs to be slightly more fast paced.. Not everyone enjoys waiting 5 minutes staring at idiots that refuse to participate.

 

 

Then get a book or be productive. Just because you are an ADHD riddled person doesn't mean we should change the rules because you can't sit still for a few minutes.

 

11) Hosties and last request system

Another countless times situation..a terrorist will be the last or one of the two last prisoners and start typing "!lr"

It makes EVERYTHING very simplistic in which only someone with the iq of below 60 couldn't figure out.

 

 

Tried it before and the script messes with other things on the PB server. Also, highlights rebels, kills a type of strategy.

 

For those that haven't used the system, when you type !lr, you are given a list to choose the LR, then choose a ct to do it with.

 

This also gives more assurance to death games as it's through the system, a few examples would be

- no scope battles

- dodgeball (smoke grenade at 1 hp)

- races (with markers etc)

- deagle toss markers indicated (no confusion)

- long jumps

- who takes their S4S shot

etc...

 

12) Round time

Increase it from 5 to 7 or 8 minutes.

I understand this to some extent contradicts when I said "I get bored staring at retards", but if issues I addressed previously turn out that way, rounds would be much faster paced, the round extension is for people doing lr's or something. (Much better watching an lr opposed to sitting still laughing that they're doing nothing and the only t alive)

 

 

You said that the game should be faster paced, yet want longer round time... think that one through. Yes, I see you acknowledged it, but still. Your earlier suggestion wouldn't speed rounds, just add free killing issues. Point is, leave it as it is.

 

13) WARNING SHOTS

Where the fuck is the line drawn for this? Allow me to present some common sense.

"crouch to pool no d/d" - if a t isn't crouching but going to pool (run/walk), that's a warning

if the t is running in a different direction heading for a teleport or something like that, that should be a kill..

 

If I say "be in the water" and they aren't in the water, that's disobeying a pretty direct order and pretty simple one to be honest. T's should be killed for disobeying a very simple order...

 

The times when you should warning shot, IMO, should be cut in half. I (and others I imagine..)

 

I hear people yelling every time someone dies for a warning shot, holy shit, most times the T deserves to die and is blatantly a rebel..

 

 

When you play T and some guy shoots you in the face for standing up because of this, you will understand why it is as it is currently.

 

The rules/motd regarding warnings should be revised a little.. they shouldn't be given SO OFTEN to TERRORISTS IN PRISON.

 

You could have simply said "I'm immune to change" and I would have understood. I said I respect other opinions so respect mine, your sarcasm and accusations are pretty unnecessary and highly inaccurate.

 

For example, I said the MOST COMMON admins being phonicz and xoul, not the ONLY two I see.

Secondly, I don't have ADHD or anything similar, but I suppose you enjoy waiting many minutes for rounds. I don't think many people die on PB, then presume where they left off on page 76. Stop talking about being productive when we're on a gaming forum, specifically prison break, lol....

 

@everyone thanks for the feedback so far.

[BlackEagle]

I don't think people are afraid of change around here, I mean look how much this place has changed just recently. I know what you said wasn't directed at me but my point is that you said a few times that "SG is the only place like this" and to me that is a great thing. SG has its own identity and rules and many accept it. Many of these rules are set in place to prevent just blatant freekilling and score whores. You bring out a lot of great ideas and I think that is always needed but I don't think some of the stuff you mentioned needs to be put into place. But again, that is just my personal opinion and you have yours.

[nickzilla]

I don't think people are afraid of change around here, I mean look how much this place has changed just recently. I know what you said wasn't directed at me but my point is that you said a few times that "SG is the only place like this" and to me that is a great thing. SG has its own identity and rules and many accept it. Many of these rules are set in place to prevent just blatant freekilling and score whores. You bring out a lot of great ideas and I think that is always needed but I don't think some of the stuff you mentioned needs to be put into place. But again, that is just my personal opinion and you have yours.

 

I understand SG in many aspects is very unique, however, change could do it well (to an extent). I started making this thread with the anticipation that many would disagree with much of my list. The thread has the purpose of stressing what people DO agree with, to get changed. At this point, many have disagreed with no-block. I've come to terms with that, it doesn't bother me.

 

We shall see what happens.

[Zealot]

No admin is going to dedicated 24/7 to a server, gross exaggeration.

 

Bashing current admins that play there isn't helping you, they are admins for a reason. I find this funny because I used to play pb all day/go there from time-to-time and most admins do their job. Maybe you should get some on your friends list and call them in if needed.

 

And honestly pb is one of the worst servers to be an admin on period. You fuckers QQ like its no ones business. We aren't fucking handmaids who slay/kick/ban whenever you need it (I should know I hated SG PB admins, actually I made a thread 2 years ago asking for 24/7 pb admins as well.) we have to observe what happens and why. Which normally leads to slay/kick/ban in the first place.

[duhoh]

OH NOES, FREENADE! OH NOES FREESHOOTING! OH NOES, SLAY HIM EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ADMINZ!

 

that is why admins don't like PB. it's just constant QQ. the people that made it fun and moved on since they are sick of the whining that goes down.

 

i was just in there for like 2 hours and it was just constant whining. PB really doesn't need more rules, just less whining.