PC Upgrades

[jazzy]

Well, for future upgrades. Plus the number one complaint I hear with people these days is that "this game or that game" has fried their PSU. In the past month alone I've know at least 6 people that have said that.

 

Also the recommended minimum for that card is 450w. Better safe than sorry.

 

you're retarded.

 

anyway, after relooking at that psu however, it's probably shit tier anyway, unless cooler master is using good caps, which i doubt. corsair is usually a fine brand to go with anyway.

also zeke, for information on why you're retarded, a game wouldn't kill a psu, it would shut down if it got overwattage, which rarely happens, and if it did. it would shut down. your friends are retarded and probably fried the psu because they bought shitty ones. never once have i ever heard of a psu frying from doing extensive workloads. not to mention power consumption is largely different from what the manufacturer recommends for a psu. the page is asking for a minimum of 450w for the PSU itself. if you look at power consumption on video cards, you'll find very little of them ever break 300w, not even high end ones will do it often even on high usage, the gtx 460 1gb barely breaks even with 250w, and that's doubtful at best. i gave the cpu a little more space as i don't know how well amd's consumption is, because as from my experience, they take a LOT of power already from the old line.

 

regardless, the psu is fine but corsair and antec are probably more trusted brands.

[Silva]

Well then, this looks better. No? Also has more connectors.Newegg.com - Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

 

 

Also is this board as good? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-131-767&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=6

[Zeke]

you're retarded.

 

anyway, after relooking at that psu however, it's probably shit tier anyway, unless cooler master is using good caps, which i doubt. corsair is usually a fine brand to go with anyway.

also zeke, for information on why you're retarded, a game wouldn't kill a psu, it would shut down if it got overwattage, which rarely happens, and if it did. it would shut down. your friends are retarded and probably fried the psu because they bought shitty ones. never once have i ever heard of a psu frying from doing extensive workloads. not to mention power consumption is largely different from what the manufacturer recommends for a psu. the page is asking for a minimum of 450w for the PSU itself. if you look at power consumption on video cards, you'll find very little of them ever break 300w, not even high end ones will do it often even on high usage, the gtx 460 1gb barely breaks even with 250w, and that's doubtful at best. i gave the cpu a little more space as i don't know how well amd's consumption is, because as from my experience, they take a LOT of power already from the old line.

 

regardless, the psu is fine but corsair and antec are probably more trusted brands.

 

It's not me that's retarded lol; I don't buy shit PSUs. I've never had one fry either. But every complaint I've received (recently) has been from either Skyrim or BF3. And tbh I can't be that much of a dumbass. Chances are I've been using computers since before you were born (since about 1992 or 1993) so I obviously don't know anything about how they work, especially after taking computer oriented college classes for 3 years.

 

All I did was recommend he buys a better PSU now to save money later from having to buy a second.

 

Silva out of personal experience I would not buy an ASUS motherboard. Out of the two I owned both of them were DOA. Customer support is a terrible Indian guy that knows nothing about technology. Luckily after a month of torture I was able to trade in the first, wait two weeks and trade in the second for another motherboard (EVGA), after investing another $200. Your experience could be different. But the board I bought had all the same features and was $40 cheaper.

[jazzy]

It's not me that's retarded lol; I don't buy shit PSUs. I've never had one fry either. But every complaint I've received (recently) has been from either Skyrim or BF3. And tbh I can't be that much of a dumbass. Chances are I've been using computers since before you were born (since about 1992 or 1993) so I obviously don't know anything about how they work, especially after taking computer oriented college classes for 3 years.

and after the paragraph i wrote you still don't acknowledge what i said (and somehow half your message is you touting around your college degree e-peen. Wow!)

a psu cannot be fried via playing a video game, instead, if you have bad cooling, it's possible your psu can be fried from melting caps which cause it to melt and kill the psu (tends to not happen due to caps being somewhat decent quality from good manu's like corsair, antec, possibly even a few others). and even then, if your psu was to be overheating, it would have to be at asinine temperatures which would also bare a tooth at your hardware itself.

 

the people who you talk to are retards, and you're dumb for bringing it up in the first place. psu failures happen very very rarely, and are probably the lest most failed parts in the pc due to their failures causing catastrophic damage as collateral. but psus tend to not cause that type of damage like house fires, or whatnot. they just >shut off

 

you did not suggest he get a better psu. you suggested he get a higher wattage. higher watts = depends on the efficiency of the computer, how much you're getting $/watt, etc.. his pc build would never require more than 600w of current power. you recommend he gets 50w more of a psu. how the fuck is 50w going to make him avoid buying a new psu in 3 years? not to mention, if he were to keep the 650w as long as possible, he would most likely get a cheaper psu in 4 years when he buys parts that have cheapened in price.

Choose a Power Supply - PCPartPicker

Look at comparison between 700~ and 600~ watt psus. it's a fucking $50 difference. he wants this to be cheap.

 

 

also most motherboards are fine just so long as you read reviews on design issues and customer support issues. generally buying anything with >4stars and >40 reviews will net you a decent motherboard, and understand most people who have complaints, go back and review the product while others tend to not be bothered to come back and give reviews. asus idk in the last few years, but they were pretty meh about 4 years back and they were one of the first people with EFI bios if i recall, but that doesn't make them great. Personally I think my MSI mobo is fine, and I'm glad they are doing native pci-e 3 support, rather than gigabyte who lied to consumers about it! believe me, most motherboards are usually fine, there's never really any "hit or miss" motherboards that are going to give you major headaches.

 

 

but: silva that mobo is 16x and 4x sli making it a 8x 8x sli mobo. you don't want that. you want atleast 16x and 8x (slight performance loss as compared to 16x and 16x but it's very negligible unless at very very high resolutions (aka eyefinity stuff))

wat am i saying. are you even going to SLI? i've noticed both boards you picked were SLI compatible (the first one you posted is better btw because 16x and 8x)

 

 

also after doing more reviewing, your cpu isn't very good

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

a phenom ii x4 can beat it....

what's your current cpu? i don't know if dishing out extra dosh for this would even be worth it, PassMark CPU Value Chart - Performance / Price of all CPUs

value wise it's good... but you're going to have to upgrade in another 2 years to keep intact with new generation games especially when console market gets revitalized.

[Zeke]

and after the paragraph i wrote you still don't acknowledge what i said (and somehow half your message is you touting around your college degree e-peen. Wow!)

a psu cannot be fried via playing a video game, instead, if you have bad cooling, it's possible your psu can be fried from melting caps which cause it to melt and kill the psu (tends to not happen due to caps being somewhat decent quality from good manu's like corsair, antec, possibly even a few others). and even then, if your psu was to be overheating, it would have to be at asinine temperatures which would also bare a tooth at your hardware itself.

 

the people who you talk to are retards, and you're dumb for bringing it up in the first place. psu failures happen very very rarely, and are probably the lest most failed parts in the pc due to their failures causing catastrophic damage as collateral. but psus tend to not cause that type of damage like house fires, or whatnot. they just >shut off

 

you did not suggest he get a better psu. you suggested he get a higher wattage. higher watts = depends on the efficiency of the computer, how much you're getting $/watt, etc.. his pc build would never require more than 600w of current power. you recommend he gets 50w more of a psu. how the fuck is 50w going to make him avoid buying a new psu in 3 years? not to mention, if he were to keep the 650w as long as possible, he would most likely get a cheaper psu in 4 years when he buys parts that have cheapened in price.

Choose a Power Supply - PCPartPicker

Look at comparison between 700~ and 600~ watt psus. it's a fucking $50 difference. he wants this to be cheap.

 

 

also most motherboards are fine just so long as you read reviews on design issues and customer support issues. generally buying anything with >4stars and >40 reviews will net you a decent motherboard, and understand most people who have complaints, go back and review the product while others tend to not be bothered to come back and give reviews. asus idk in the last few years, but they were pretty meh about 4 years back and they were one of the first people with EFI bios if i recall, but that doesn't make them great. Personally I think my MSI mobo is fine, and I'm glad they are doing native pci-e 3 support, rather than gigabyte who lied to consumers about it! believe me, most motherboards are usually fine, there's never really any "hit or miss" motherboards that are going to give you major headaches.

 

 

but: silva that mobo is 16x and 4x sli making it a 8x 8x sli mobo. you don't want that. you want atleast 16x and 8x (slight performance loss as compared to 16x and 16x but it's very negligible unless at very very high resolutions (aka eyefinity stuff))

wat am i saying. are you even going to SLI? i've noticed both boards you picked were SLI compatible (the first one you posted is better btw because 16x and 8x)

 

 

also after doing more reviewing, your cpu isn't very good

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

a phenom ii x4 can beat it....

what's your current cpu? i don't know if dishing out extra dosh for this would even be worth it, PassMark CPU Value Chart - Performance / Price of all CPUs

value wise it's good... but you're going to have to upgrade in another 2 years to keep intact with new generation games especially when console market gets revitalized.

 

Ok well tl;dr obviously. College degree, negative, never finished getting that nor do I care to. Just extra experience on my belt. The people I talk to are generally idiots, along with the majority of the human population. Everyone knows that by now.

 

Somehow you got the idea that I said that a video game can cause your PSU to fry. Re-read everything I've posted and you will find I've nowhere stated that exactly. Only implying that any over stress to a computer component can cause damage to it, that's pretty basic knowledge. Which is stupid for you to even mention. A video game is a "program." Alike anything your run on a computer it can have adverse effects on your hardware.

 

Also it's not just 50w. Many PSUs are listed lower than their actual continuous provided power or peak power. So depending on the PSU you buy; 50w more can be more like 200w more. But w/e, I'm not here to argue with you all day. I posted here to help Silva out of personal and professional experience. He doesn't have to listen, but it's still an idea thrown out there for him to fiddle with. Whether it's necessary or not depends on what he's looking for.

 

MSI mobos are pretty reliable as jazzyy has stated.

[Zaraki]

you're retarded.

 

Was this really needed?

Give critics without calling eachother names, or just grow the fuck up!

 

Btw I have to agree with Zeke, why don't spend the extra 50-100$ but with the certainty that you won't have to upgrade it again in the near future. Cooling your computer also depends on the environment you place it in btw..

My room is warm constantly so I really HAD to install the extra cooling.

 

Or just take the extra cooler if you're not sure

 

Have fun!

[Chaoz`]

regardless, the psu is fine but corsair and antec are probably more trusted brands.

 

don't forget about be Quiet!, they're really good aswell, but a bit more expensive, but you can compare the prices with the HX series from Corsair.

 

if you want a really good cooler get the Corsair H70 Core, and add 2 fans of your choice, such a good cooler, and really quiet aswell, if you get decent fans. it costs more then the Cooler Master 1 but it cools much better, but thats your choice.

 

also as Jazzyy said you don't need a high Wattage PSU, 650W is more then enough, i have a 1000W be Quiet! PSU, got it really cheap too, but i tend to overkill it, but i don't really need that high Wattage as a 750 or 850 would've been enough, but my 5970 tends to use a lot of power and for future updates it's really good

 

overall nice config

[jazzy]

Also it's not just 50w. Many PSUs are listed lower than their actual continuous provided power or peak power. So depending on the PSU you buy; 50w more can be more like 200w more. But w/e, I'm not here to argue with you all day. I posted here to help Silva out of personal and professional experience. He doesn't have to listen, but it's still an idea thrown out there for him to fiddle with. Whether it's necessary or not depends on what he's looking for.

So by that logic a 650W psu can actually have 800W. You're definitely helping Silva by proving my point that his current PSU pick is fine, are we done here?

[Zeke]

So by that logic a 650W psu can actually have 800W. You're definitely helping Silva by proving my point that his current PSU pick is fine, are we done here?

 

Nope, re-read what I said. Not every PSU is as advertised, but some are. He should double check. Plus sometimes you can only use the extra wattage through overclock. The point is, he saves money now by buying a few more watts. Rather than having to buy a second a few years from now.

[jazzy]

Nope, re-read what I said. Not every PSU is as advertised, but some are. He should double check. Plus sometimes you can only use the extra wattage through overclock. The point is, he saves money now by buying a few more watts. Rather than having to buy a second a few years from now.

 

THEN SUGGEST ONE.