LR or death

[awesomebillfromdawsonvile]

So what happened guys? back when the server did not suck, we would just kill people who did not want an lr, now when some asshole last t feels like wasting everyone's time it seems like he can just deny lr, and if someone kills him, everyone starts whining about free-kills. This is a big soppy bag of bullshit to me. There is no fun in watching someone waste everyone's time till the end of the round. Its just leaving a giant loophole for people to troll.

 

First step to getting pb back on track is sorting this out, because it really just encourages a trolly player base. I spent about 15 min on the server the other day and it was just painful, the ts mic spammed the whole round, orders could barley be heard, and yes of course, some asshole refused lr, and did his best to drag out the whole round. Just painful, and nothing like what pb used to be.

If you opt out of lr, you opt into execution.

[nick]

If people micspam, be gladly to report them since that is one of the rules they have to follow. Also what I would do as a CT once someone denies an lr, is just give various orders for them to keep up with until they rebel. Lr's usually happen at the last minute or two, so being patient is an easy thing to do.

[shoiep]

T's are doing something wrong if they even get the chance to do an LR.

 

In my honest opinion, the rounds are only 4 minutes long. It shouldn't really be that much of wait. When people delay with not doing an LR, it's usually a 'Round Draw' before you know it.

[BlackEagle]

This is because we don't force CTs to accept any LR. If a T was forced to do an LR then it would force CTs to perform an LR as well. This would in return prevent some users from rebelling because they would want an LR that they know they could win just to kill a CT. The rules are fine and I see this rarely happening anyway. The rounds aren't that long as well.

[awesomebillfromdawsonvile]

Well that's the problem, we used to force them to accept or die. Why did we do away with this? You say"we dont force cts to accept any lrs" I say we never did, so I don't see how that factors into it. Lr used to be optional and cts could just kill that last t if they wanted to. Its never been about making it fun for the last t who did nothing for the whole round, shit even if he did something, its still not about making things fun for one person, (not that wasting everyone's time is really "fun")

 

If I have to spend 1 of 4 min watching 1 asshole drag out the whole round for the rest of the server, that's too long. You say it does not happen alot, well like I said, in my 15 min test run, it happened, and it sucked. LRs are dumb in general, and we should go back to the old ways, last t gets executed. Why o why should we waste everyone's time for one bad t who refused to rebel so he could get a shot at lr, or even worse no lr+hop around for 1-2 min till round draw. At the very least it should be lr or death. Why that changed is beyond me.

[nick]

Well that's the problem, we used to force them to accept or die. Why did we do away with this? You say"we dont force cts to accept any lrs" I say we never did, so I don't see how that factors into it. Lr used to be optional and cts could just kill that last t if they wanted to. Its never been about making it fun for the last t who did nothing for the whole round, shit even if he did something, its still not about making things fun for one person, (not that wasting everyone's time is really "fun")

 

If I have to spend 1 of 4 min watching 1 asshole drag out the whole round for the rest of the server, that's too long. You say it does not happen alot, well like I said, in my 15 min test run, it happened, and it sucked. LRs are dumb in general, and we should go back to the old ways, last t gets executed. Why o why should we waste everyone's time for one bad t who refused to rebel so he could get a shot at lr, or even worse no lr+hop around for 1-2 min till round draw. At the very least it should be lr or death. Why that changed is beyond me.

 

forcing an lr to a t = forcing a ct to do it with no choice

and if you're that impatient, can't you talk to someone on steam, or go on the forums until the next round

[nick]

Well that's the problem, we used to force them to accept or die. Why did we do away with this? You say"we dont force cts to accept any lrs" I say we never did, so I don't see how that factors into it. Lr used to be optional and cts could just kill that last t if they wanted to. Its never been about making it fun for the last t who did nothing for the whole round, shit even if he did something, its still not about making things fun for one person, (not that wasting everyone's time is really "fun")

 

If I have to spend 1 of 4 min watching 1 asshole drag out the whole round for the rest of the server, that's too long. You say it does not happen alot, well like I said, in my 15 min test run, it happened, and it sucked. LRs are dumb in general, and we should go back to the old ways, last t gets executed. Why o why should we waste everyone's time for one bad t who refused to rebel so he could get a shot at lr, or even worse no lr+hop around for 1-2 min till round draw. At the very least it should be lr or death. Why that changed is beyond me.

 

forcing an lr to a t = forcing a ct to do it with no choice

and if you're that impatient, can't you talk to someone on steam, or go on the forums until the next round

[Sidearmsavage]

can't force lrs to Ts if you are that satisfied about it than PM an admin and they could talk to you about it.

[awesomebillfromdawsonvile]

forcing an lr to a t = forcing a ct to do it with no choice

and if you're that impatient, can't you talk to someone on steam, or go on the forums until the next round

 

Um no, that's just silly, Im not gonna alt tab just cuz someones being an asshole. Also, I'm not a real chatty guy, so I don't spend a lot of time chatting with people. But, if i did want to chat, I would do that, and not try to juggle pb with steam chat.

 

If the ct does not want to do that lr, then he should A/get another ct to do it. b/tell the t to ask for another lr. or C/ just kill him like we did back in the old days. Hooray! New round, everyone's happy, except for the prick who was dragging out the round for everyone. Like I said, why did this rule change in the first place? It hurts no one, and serves only to speed things up, and to stop some dick from dragging out the whole round wasting everyone's time.

 

I suspect this rule changed to accommodate the rank system, stopping rank whores from just killing the last t for extra points. As far as I could tell, there is no current rank system on pb, and even if there was I don't think the ends justify the means here. Wasting everyone's time, so one ct cant make a couple extra points. Who cares?

[BlackEagle]

Um no, that's just silly, Im not gonna alt tab just cuz someones being an asshole. Also, I'm not a real chatty guy, so I don't spend a lot of time chatting with people. But, if i did want to chat, I would do that, and not try to juggle pb with steam chat.

 

Honestly what this comes down to is you personally having an issue with it versus the entire server population not minding at all. I play PB a lot. Obviously not recently since I am away at school and can't but when I can I play PB so I do know this happens like 5% of the time. If you can't be patient for 1 whole minute I feel bad for you. You seem to be making excuses here while people are giving your valid alternatives for making time go faster. You could read a book as well. No alt-tab required. Read a page a minute and in that 15 minute time span you have 15 pages down. 60 pages in an hour. That is pretty productive.

 

If the ct does not want to do that lr, then he should A/get another ct to do it. b/tell the t to ask for another lr. or C/ just kill him like we did back in the old days. Hooray! New round, everyone's happy, except for the prick who was dragging out the round for everyone. Like I said, why did this rule change in the first place? It hurts no one, and serves only to speed things up, and to stop some dick from dragging out the whole round wasting everyone's time.

 

A. What if it is 1 v 1? Now you have an issue with the CT not having a choice.

 

B. Then if I am CT I am going to deny every LR choice by a T until he plays the one that I want so I can win. This in the end is just going to waste the time anyway.

 

C. So who gets the kill the last T? Just a rank hungry CT that is going to camp while his other teammates do the work then he comes out just to kill the last T?

 

Like I said earlier if you can't be patient for a maximum of 4 minutes I feel very sorry for you. Heck I used to do chores while I was dead or find something else productive. One minute is really short and what it comes down to is just being patient.

 

I suspect this rule changed to accommodate the rank system, stopping rank whores from just killing the last t for extra points. As far as I could tell, there is no current rank system on pb, and even if there was I don't think the ends justify the means here. Wasting everyone's time, so one ct cant make a couple extra points. Who cares?

 

There is a rank system and one that a lot of people seem to care about for some reason. I wonder the same thing as to why anyone would care but people do. Not to beat a dead horse here but honestly it comes down to it being literally one minute and for the enjoyment of the playerbase. The object is to rebel but you can't force Ts to rebel so if one player doesn't like to rebel it is his/her choice.

 

The rules are perfectly fine as they are. The last thing PB needs is another rule....