nick Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 2983 Joined: 01/08/13 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 I dont see too many people paying $2.50 just for a chance at a cheap knife. I know of a group that I am currently in that they hosts a bunch of raffles (like over 5-10 a day, we dont have to host many a week), and they host things from AK-47| Redline, to things like a Karambit Boreal Forest, and their entry prices vary from like .50 (a not so expensive gun) to a key (2.50, for something like a knife or something of equal value) and the slots in the giveaways get filled up quick. If we did this system we could bring in players to the forums to sign up for them and increase donations. Link to comment
Zorg Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 640 Joined: 04/15/14 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) How I would see it is just have some simple requirements such as have at least 10 posts or a certain amount of time on the servers to just ENTER the raffle no need to give a key to be in the giveaway. But if you were to raffle off something expensive yes I agree with capp'n make slots and make them pay for raffle tickets. You can also say that hey if you FEEL like donating it helps us keep our community to keep alive and what not or whatever you would want to say. If it where possible to get something started on reddit this could be a big thing to increase traffic towards the sites and servers as well. I also wanted to do something like this, Silentguns had the idea of doing something almost like a secret santa... You would just sign up and you would receive a giftee and you would receive a Santa (Someone gifting to you) and you would have a set minimum price you can spend on someone and if you feel you want to spend more you could. And with this you could also have the Subscriber perk that would gift more expensive things to one another. I don't know i feel like this could be awesome... The only things is would be getting a good reddit page going. 1 Edited January 11, 2015 by Zorg Link to comment
floffypus Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 5063 Joined: 02/25/09 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 Having requirements for posts and or join date wouldn't make people join, since they wont be able to participate right away. If there are no requirements people would join, maybe even stick around for next weeks giveaway and so on! Maybe for more expensive items such as knifes and "awp asiimov" we could have requirements such as 50 posts and 5 months join date. Link to comment
Zorg Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 640 Joined: 04/15/14 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 Having requirements for posts and or join date wouldn't make people join, since they wont be able to participate right away. If there are no requirements people would join, maybe even stick around for next weeks giveaway and so on! Maybe for more expensive items such as knifes and "awp asiimov" we could have requirements such as 50 posts and 5 months join date. Yeah I see what you mean by that but seriously 10 posts is not that hard to get Link to comment
floffypus Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 5063 Joined: 02/25/09 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 Yeah I see what you mean by that but seriously 10 posts is not that hard to get Ofc it isn't, but i'm pretty sure most people would just say screw this and and leave. But if were doing this to attract new members, its for the new members and shouldn't require them to "spam" the forum in order to participate! Link to comment
Zorg Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 640 Joined: 04/15/14 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ofc it isn't, but i'm pretty sure most people would just say screw this and and leave. But if were doing this to attract new members, its for the new members and shouldn't require them to "spam" the forum in order to participate! True, So you think it would be better for them just to have to sign up and not have any posts? Link to comment
floffypus Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 5063 Joined: 02/25/09 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 True, So you think it would be better for them just to have to sign up and not have any posts? When the main purpose is to get people to register on the forum yes. Link to comment
nick Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 2983 Joined: 01/08/13 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) When the main purpose is to get people to register on the forum yes. You're basically saying lets host raffles for guns that could range below 40 dollars and just give it away to just anyone who signs up on the forums with no contribution at all. But for the expensive raffles we have to have 50 post, which is really easy. I mean yes lets get more people to actually sign up on the forums, but will they actually stay and do anything other than enroll themselves in giveaways without having them do anything like donating or post in other sections? There's also a question that gets brought up, where are we going to get the money to pay for the skins? We won't have people donating skins every day/week, so we're going to have to supply them from somewhere (unless someone donates a gun every week). If we would use the pay a certain amount to get an entry, not only would we be able to pay for the skins, but that would allow us to boost donations which we all know we are in need of. 2 Edited January 12, 2015 by nick Link to comment
floffypus Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 5063 Joined: 02/25/09 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 You're basically saying lets host raffles for guns that could range below 40 dollars and just give it away to just anyone who signs up on the forums with no contribution at all. But for the expensive raffles we have to have 50 post, which is really easy. I mean yes lets get more people to actually sign up on the forums, but will they actually stay and do anything other than enroll themselves in giveaways without having them do anything like donating or post in other sections? There's also a question that gets brought up, where are we going to pay for the skins? We won't have people donating skins every day/week, so we're going to have to supply them from somewhere (unless someone donates a gun every week). If we would use the pay a certain amount to get an entry, not only would we be able to pay for the skins, but that would allow us to boost donations which we all know we are in need of. I get that. I was just thinking about getting as many new members as possible which seemed to be the purpose. Ofc many would just join to and post one comment every week to enter the give away. Then again, set the requirements to high and people wont bother. Might as well advertise for a giveaway no new member can enter lol. But since most people are sold when they read "Skin Giveaway" and will register either way, we might as well just set the post count up to 50 and hope a few sticks around to hit that 50 post mark. And when it comes to skins i dont really think it matters all that much what the value of the skin is, everyone like free shit. And im sure many could donate a couple cheap skins they never use or cant use in a contract. There are some good looking "cheap" skins on the market. Link to comment
BoM Posted January 11, 2015 Content Count: 3150 Joined: 02/28/10 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) I get that. I was just thinking about getting as many new members as possible which seemed to be the purpose. Ofc many would just join to and post one comment every week to enter the give away. Then again, set the requirements to high and people wont bother. Might as well advertise for a giveaway no new member can enter lol. But since most people are sold when they read "Skin Giveaway" and will register either way, we might as well just set the post count up to 50 and hope a few sticks around to hit that 50 post mark. And when it comes to skins i dont really think it matters all that much what the value of the skin is, everyone like free shit. And im sure many could donate a couple cheap skins they never use or cant use in a contract. There are some good looking "cheap" skins on the market. repeating myself here, requiring people to stick around for an excessive time to partake in a contest is dumb, and honestly shouldn't happen. You can't force post count for reward, we saw that very clearly with the tiered regular ranks. The idea of any giveaway like this is direct advertisement for our site, that's it. We're not going to use any giveaway to stimulate posting on the forums, however if that is something that comes out of the giveaway than all the better. You say set requirements too high and people won't bother? 50 posts is too high. Demanding any posts or time spent is too high. Bottom line here, there are a thousands of these giveaways all over the internet, and that's just for CSGO. Its either for quick money or quick advertising, anything beyond that is truly asking for too much and people will just ignore you. Cappn's idea is really great, it provides quick money and advertising, and in the long run will make it easier to keep running these events or similar CSGO events over and over. That is how you keep people here, offer something that we can actually afford to keep doing. I will talk to some other people about Cappn's idea, see how realistic it is for us to run it. Also the value of the skin does matter a lot, everyone knows the big name skins, and the big name skins cost more money. You have a twitch channel saying "giving away vulcan/m4 cyrex/assimov anything" and your channel and whatever you're advertising fucking explodes. Edited January 11, 2015 by BoM Link to comment
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