BoM Posted June 30, 2015 Content Count: 3150 Joined: 02/28/10 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2015 A freeze order is essential to keeping order among chaos in certain maps. Im not going to restrict people from having the ability to keep order by PROPERLY using that order. It seems there needs to just be a clarification on a few rules here... Let me mull this whole thread over and I'll get back to you guys Link to comment
Nuclear Onion Posted July 5, 2015 Content Count: 3462 Joined: 04/07/13 Status: Offline Share Posted July 5, 2015 1. AFK = Away From Keyboard. 2. Still allowed to use your mouse.(look around/knife) I always thought this was what AFK freeze meant, since AFK manager won't be able to force you to spec since you are still moving around (right? if false you have the right to call me dumb) I'll try should declare somewhere in the MOTD or !rules what exactly is defined as AFK freeze on our server specifically since it seems people are always on different pages/don't know what AFK even means. In my eyes, it should go this way (quote) in every situation unless the order is "Face the back of the cell and AFK freeze" since the order is to look that way only, there is really no reason for you to be spinning around or doing whatever, that order specifically is meant to do gun checks, since you can see if a prisoner has a gun holstered. I wouldn't punish CTs for giving the order though, unless it's getting out of hand just tell them to give it less often. - If a CT continually repeats orders, is that against the rules? - Most of the time, this is going to occur when the T's are obliterating the CT's. If they constantly tell you (approx. 3+ times) to do the same thing, then it can become an issue. Just ask a different CT to give orders or ask an admin. Going by this is the best option ^ 1 Link to comment
Dr Pepper Posted July 17, 2015 Content Count: 356 Joined: 05/29/12 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2015 i just want to say i dont play on JB/PB servers that have afk freeze. makes the gameplay way too boring, freeze (or wasd freeze) atleast lets you jump and knife and freelook so you can so SOMETHING while waiting for orders. Link to comment
Vy Posted July 18, 2015 Content Count: 1385 Joined: 05/22/11 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 If not disabled, it should be at least increased by 10-15 seconds or so. Link to comment
Lupin Posted July 18, 2015 Content Count: 1086 Joined: 07/28/12 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 i just want to say i dont play on JB/PB servers that have afk freeze. makes the gameplay way too boring, freeze (or wasd freeze) atleast lets you jump and knife and freelook so you can so SOMETHING while waiting for orders. 99.9% of the time you're allowed to freelook by the CTs when given the order to afk freeze. If not disabled, it should be at least increased by 10-15 seconds or so. AFK manager gives you like a minute if not more of you being "afk". Plus it gives a 30 second warning on when you're going to get moved by it. Link to comment
Banana Joe Posted July 18, 2015 Content Count: 3056 Joined: 01/25/10 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 Just need these CTs to give proper orders, sending them all to somewhere close to where they're 'defending' is way more efficient than just yelling freeze in most cases from my experience. Link to comment
Vy Posted July 18, 2015 Content Count: 1385 Joined: 05/22/11 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 AFK manager gives you like a minute if not more of you being "afk". Plus it gives a 30 second warning on when you're going to get moved by it.Might have glitched for me then. It also randomlly killed someone else, even when he was walking around. Link to comment
SL4DE Posted July 18, 2015 Content Count: 1612 Joined: 05/09/15 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 Typically with an AFK Freeze, you are not allowed to move from your position, or look around. Following this, you will shortly be kicked to spectate thanks to the plugin. There are a few tricks to getting around the plugin, like using your flashlight, or making minuscule movements. I don't believe that the "AFK Freeze" command should be completely banned, however, it should be using sparingly. (And not used in the first order of a round..) Example: 15-45 seconds into the round, all prisoners are instructed to go to a colored line, and freeze. The prisoners transit to the line, and follow orders. A Guard states that he may have seen a weapon on a Prisoner, and an order is given for prisoners to look(or "face") an object and AFK FREEZE. The guards do a quick search of prisoner models, the weapon is quickly dropped and secured, and prisoners are told they can now "freelook". The day continues as normal until Liablestone blasts your head off and all hell breaks lose I believe AFK freezes should only be used when needed, and not used consistently whenever a freeze order is given. I see players from other JB servers playing on [sG] servers (which is fantastic), but they need to be reminded not to use AFK freeze orders often. Guards/CT's need to remember that everyone is trying to play and have fun on this server, and keeping them frozen without an option to do anything will just frustrate other players. Also, those giving orders need to be clear with orders, as well as prisoners need to ask for repeats, and ask questions as needed to avoid confusion. TL;DR AFK freeze should be used sparingly, and only when justified. Stop AFK freezing people right out of cells. Be clear with your orders to prevent confusion. Link to comment
Goku Posted July 19, 2015 Content Count: 2589 Joined: 02/05/12 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 Honestly I feel a lot of CTs don't understand why they order Ts to take one step out, face the back wall and freeze. The whole point is to weapon check. And I can't tell you how many times I'll be chilling with a usp and no CT says anything. Tbh i am not a fan of afk freeze at all. Free look should always be allowed but restricted. If you tell a T to face the back wall of their cell it shouldn't matter if they look slightly to the left or right, as long as they are still facing the back. Some CTs will shoot you for even slightly moving the mouse which isn't within reason. It's not like you are rebelling. There's not much I can do to rebel by looking 2 feet to the left. Link to comment
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