Chaos Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 985 Joined: 04/22/09 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 I'm starting to dip my toes back into Prison Break before I dive in, and could use some clarification on a few things. I'm looking for answers that are set in stone/agreed upon by everyone. First Question - No spamming of any kind CTs should give reasonable orders Wardens are not allowed; any CT can give orders to the Ts Round Start: I'm on CT - 4 Prisoners are spamming random shit on their mics and 3 guards are all trying to give orders. Nobody can understand anyone else and I can tell that we, as Guards, are about to lose control. My first thought is that I should have a text bind saying "All Prisoners Freeze In Place! Do Not Move!" and press it 3 or so times. If nobody can understand what's being said over the mics, any CT can give orders, and text orders are allowed, then it stands to reason that I have every right to start on my warning shots after I use this bind. I don't recall this being as big of a problem as it is currently, I'm pretty sure I held on strong to the "No Spam" rule and used mute often when this started to happen. There wasn't an admin on at the time, so what's a regular player to do? Does "CTs Should Give Reasonable Orders" go out with window when nobody can understand? Second Question - Are Guards allowed to say "All Prisoners Off Their Mics"? If so, what are the rules around that? Third Question - This thing about the "Distance Rule". A Guard told the Prisoners to stay 2 boxes away from the vent in big cage. This sparked a shit-storm from the Prisoners about this so called rule, so I looked around and all I could find was the post by capp'n (which doesn't appear to agree with what the prisoners were saying, did I miss another post?) Distance Orders Now this has been brought up recently, and I have to say that although people treat Prison Break as an RP sort of situation, I have always seen admins, no matter the rank say that this has not been allowed. This goes for like "stay XXX meters away from me". There is no way you can get the absolute location of yourself and the terrorists and shoot them if they go 'meters'. Distance orders also go for "stop following me". This has always been ruled as not a legit order by admins ever since even before I had joined Steam-Gamers. If you want to give a legitimate order for a T to stop following you, just go to a place that is restricted, restrict one yourself, or just say 'All Ts freeze". 2 Link to comment
Goku Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 2589 Joined: 02/05/12 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 1- CTs give reasonable orders does not go out the window. If no admin is on to mute, say all Ts off mic (will touch down more in a second) and all Ts freeze. Can also opt to order all Ts to big cage or something similar. 2- yes guards can order all Ts off mic. My understanding with @Nuclear Onion , was that it's supposed to be used as ct says all Ts off mic, ct gives an order, Ts may resume using mic. My understanding was say there is 3:30 left to play, CTs couldn't say all Ts off mic till 1. To quote onion "we have 30 second mute for a reason". Basically they're only supposed to stay off mic until the new order is given, not for half the round or for no reason. 3- no distance basically means you can't say "stay 10 feet away". 2 boxes away, or as it's usually referred to as 3 box rule, is perfectly within the rules. CTs can say things like get away, back off etc. they just can't order things like 10 feet away or knifing distance. Hopefully that covers your questions, onion or bethy might touchdown more or if I told you wrong, they can correct me. 4 Link to comment
Nuclear Onion Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 3462 Joined: 04/07/13 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 First Question - No spamming of any kind CTs should give reasonable orders Wardens are not allowed; any CT can give orders to the Ts Round Start: I'm on CT - 4 Prisoners are spamming random shit on their mics and 3 guards are all trying to give orders. Nobody can understand anyone else and I can tell that we, as Guards, are about to lose control. My first thought is that I should have a text bind saying "All Prisoners Freeze In Place! Do Not Move!" and press it 3 or so times. If nobody can understand what's being said over the mics, any CT can give orders, and text orders are allowed, then it stands to reason that I have every right to start on my warning shots after I use this bind. I don't recall this being as big of a problem as it is currently, I'm pretty sure I held on strong to the "No Spam" rule and used mute often when this started to happen. There wasn't an admin on at the time, so what's a regular player to do? Does "CTs Should Give Reasonable Orders" go out with window when nobody can understand? Yeah I do agree that it is rather difficult to give orders at times, I don't think you are doing anything wrong by spamming it a couple times if the CT team is a shitstorm of people yelling. So, yes it's fine to bind orders and use them a bit if things get a bit out of hand. Second Question - Are Guards allowed to say "All Prisoners Off Their Mics"? If so, what are the rules around that? Yeah, that's fine. Third Question - This thing about the "Distance Rule". A Guard told the Prisoners to stay 2 boxes away from the vent in big cage. This sparked a shit-storm from the Prisoners about this so called rule, so I looked around and all I could find was the post by capp'n (which doesn't appear to agree with what the prisoners were saying, did I miss another post?) Distance Orders Now this has been brought up recently, and I have to say that although people treat Prison Break as an RP sort of situation, I have always seen admins, no matter the rank say that this has not been allowed. This goes for like "stay XXX meters away from me". There is no way you can get the absolute location of yourself and the terrorists and shoot them if they go 'meters'. Distance orders also go for "stop following me". This has always been ruled as not a legit order by admins ever since even before I had joined Steam-Gamers. If you want to give a legitimate order for a T to stop following you, just go to a place that is restricted, restrict one yourself, or just say 'All Ts freeze". Ok, that sounds like the entire server just doesn't understand that that's different from the actual distance order rules. We have it now so that if a CT is clearly taunting/being close to a T when he really shouldn't be nor has to, that it's baiting. The situation you brought up is allowed, I don't get why the prisoners decided that it's a bad thing to make that an order. 1 Link to comment
Chaos Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 985 Joined: 04/22/09 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 I just wanted to make sure nothing had really changed. Thanks for clearing that up for me, and anyone else who might have been wondering about this. 1 Link to comment
Metal Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 11727 Joined: 09/17/08 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 Quick tip- Telling T's all to freeze is a perfect get out of jail card if you are pinned. Link to comment
BlackWhite Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 2262 Joined: 02/05/12 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 When Ts saying they can't understand you, mostly it's because they don't give a shit and wanted to rebel. They always says freeshot or freekill even when you shoot them for delaying, so don't worry. Just repeat your order at least three time then if they don't listen, shoot them. P/S: There is way more childrens in CSGO than CSS, so it will be hard to keep them in control. Link to comment
harpo Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 290 Joined: 11/22/12 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 Now that your question is answered Chaos nice to see you being active again 1 Link to comment
Chaos Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 985 Joined: 04/22/09 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 When Ts saying they can't understand you, mostly it's because they don't give a shit and wanted to rebel. They always says freeshot or freekill even when you shoot them for delaying, so don't worry. Just repeat your order at least three time then if they don't listen, shoot them. P/S: There is way more childrens in CSGO than CSS, so it will be hard to keep them in control. It's not that they were saying that, they literally couldn't hear over the 7 purple using their mics at once. Link to comment
bethy Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 6213 Joined: 09/20/08 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 It's not that they were saying that, they literally couldn't hear over the 7 purple using their mics at once. How dare those 7 purple! Link to comment
Caution Posted November 22, 2015 Content Count: 11501 Joined: 10/19/08 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2015 People are flipping out about telling them to stay two boxes away? Oh man I'm playing PB more often to start shit shows. 7 Link to comment
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