Remove this map from the server? 27 members have voted

[Black Rain]

I actually enjoy the fuck out of this map but I've never noticed it being CT sided. Maybe it's because I rebel almost every round lol. I'm pretty sure it's voted for even when not 4 on map vote

[Metal]

@Wawa

 

Even if we add new maps, they will never be played sadly.

If we find and add a few more maybe that will help move away from spy vs spy.

 

 

That being said, even if its played often i dont think its a bloodline unlike electric

[Wawa]

And just for the sake of throwing it out there, electric vip is the 4th most played map ATM and it got removed. At the time of removal it was likely top 3.

 

There's a handful of other maps that can subsitute electric vip, since it's a razor map. Spy_vs_spy is only one of its kind.

 

I'm staying neutral on this, but I want to see what more people have to say about this map.

[Goku]

There's a handful of other maps that can subsitute electric vip, since it's a razor map. Spy_vs_spy is only one of its kind.

 

Valid point I hadn't considered. Still stand by my favor of removing, but I see your point.

[Stunningjam]

As a PB regular, #3 on the statistics (elite 10 bitches @Souce Boss) I don't like this map. Every time it gets voted on, I warn people not to do that smoke on vent glitch as it's really damn annoying. The colours are my main issue with it. It's sooooooooo bland. Grey everywhere, I just don't like it. As people have said, there isn't much to do. Let's list them:

• Big Cage
  
• (Randomised) Climb
  
• Death Crate
  
• Death Run
  
• Traitor
  
• Breakfloor
  
• Colours
  
• Dodgeball
  
• Outside
  

On to outside:

• (Randomised) Climb/Strafing course - BUTTON TO ACTIVATE IT AS A DEATH GAME
  
• Jump rope
  
• Wipeout
  
• Football/Soccer
  
• 
  

(Red = death game)

See how much of it is death game? Over 50%. There's not much to do that isn't a death game. The climb is usually terrible, as there are several very easy ones, and possibly only one that you have to think about instead of going on a continuous path of simple crouch jumps.

 

As for the outside course, that is randomised too. There is one strafing round walls one which is the only fun one as it is a slight challenge. There is one where you simply have to run and jump over things (doesn't push you, you literally just walk around it. Touching the poles doesn't do anything, either). It's always so trivial, both the climb and this course.

 

All the doors on this map kill you if you stand under them. Such as armoury door and cell doors. CTs can abuse the cells by opening/closing them killing off quite a few Ts. The cells themselves can contain quite a few things. A nade, a molotov, armour, a vent in 2 possible places, and a flashbang (or 2?). These are fine. I'd prefer a pistol instead of the molotov maybe. The armour is a good addition, but the vent is annoying due to the before mentioned glitch. The item you get from the vent too is randomised. A zeus, scout, five-seven (or p250, I forget) and a shotgun I think. I don't like this, it should be a pistol as the reward can either be waaaaay too great (scout) or meh (zeus). Also a smoke behind breakable wall.

 

Secrets:

• A pistol in breakfloor (p250? I dunno pls)
  
• Teleporter in that box behind big cage (one time only I believe, T only)
  
• Zeus outside
  
• Vent system
  
• P250 + smoke in a secret ceiling in death crate
  

These are some... alright secrets I guess. Not much for the Ts in my opinion.

 

And I'd like to finish by talking about the buttons. Cell button: CT only. Colours/Breakfloor/Traitor are all CT only buttons. Death run/death crate/outside buttons are both sides. I don't like that, I feel that a T is capable enough to put their finger to a button instead of having a forcefield around the button protecting it from the Ts.

 

There is a lot to this map I don't like and I feel it should be removed.

 

/rant

 

I just did a goku?

[Metal]

Ham, you did better than goku

[Zaraki]

#TeamStunningjam

[Wawa]

Thank you for your thorough input, Stunningjam.

 

How about @SL4DE @Elemental @jpi02 @Toyz @BlackWhite @souceboss @Strawberry @Ahoy @Pyro @Chips_Dubo @Anguish do you guys have an opinion on whether Spy_vs_spy should or shouldn't be removed?

[Toyz]

One of the big four in the server along with Razor,lego , and Vip.

 

Hell ive seen this been voted more than razor lately.

 

Pros:

It's one of the most balanced map.

Fun Deathgames

 

Cons:

Kinda too easy to defend.

 

There's a lot of other maps that we could get rid off tbh.

 

This is one of a kind map, not another razor rip off.

 

NO

 

 

Also can we stop asking to remove maps based on what CT's order the Ts to do? It's entire the Cts fault.

That kind of thinking makes no sense.

[Pyro]

If reworked it could be a decent map, but as it sands its pretty shitty.