[Rejected] Give Admins Actual Authority

[DarkJesture]

So I don't know about any other players, but I'm personally sick of hearing the line "Sorry, I wasn't here when it happened." from admins. Before I get horse dung shoved down my throat for saying that, please allow me to explain.

 

Say there is a mass freekiller in prison break. There were no admins on, just a few regulars and the random skiddies that join. An admin joins shortly after and the player stops simply because someone with [sG] in their name joined. The ENTIRE server is saying that person had mass free killed many times, but no one got demo during the killing. The admin doesn't do jack... Why? Because our admins are now equivalent to a supervisor -- They have a fancy title, but instead of being able to straight up fire someone, they have to call the manager... They are just glorified baby sitters.

 

Now I know it's not the admin's fault, it's whatever rules set in place to keep admins for banning unfairly or whatever. But I've literally banned more rulebreakers than half the admins, without the title. There is no point in calling an admin anymore, they are only good for when some random decides to break the rules in front of them because they don't know [sG]'s are admins.

 

I thought there was a reason that our members have to go through a "proving ground" before getting admin to prove that they can keep their cool. If they have to prove they aren't some ban happy 12 y/o, why can't they make decisions based on logic and witnesses as well as evidence or witnessing the act themselves?

 

Back on source if you called an admin in and filled them in on what happened, they'd usually ask a couple other players and ban the rule breaker on the spot.

 

This lack of authority in our "authority" has caused me to take 2 hiatus, and I doubt I'm the only one. If an admin consistently makes the wrong decision, then obviously they are unfit to be admin, don't put in rules to hinder the other admins.

 

EDIT:

It is the admin's job to keep the servers trouble-free, not the regular player. Yes regulars should report players when admins are not available, otherwise admins should be administrating.

I apologize if this lacks consensus, it's more of a rant I admit.

[fantastic]

What? Then how will admins be able to distinguish between people who scream "FREEKILL" for no reason, and people who legitimately were freekilled?

[DarkJesture]

What? Then how will admins be able to distinguish between people who scream "FREEKILL" for no reason, and people who legitimately were freekilled?

Through logical thinking.

 

Admins have to prove they are fit for admin don't they? Simple things like that should be no problem for someone with a miniscule amount of investigative skills.

[Ayjin]

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/forms.php?do=form&fid=4

[asdfg]

Rekt.

[DarkJesture]

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/forms.php?do=form&fid=4

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/search.php?searchid=96668

 

Without your post, my issue would have never been solved...

 

On a serious note, please read the post before being an ass.

[Metal]

We need proof, its simple as that.

 

If we do not see it, we cannot do jack.

If everyone said X person freekilled and we banned them, looked at logs and they didn't, we would like like total asses.

Understand, we are not babysitters, I get called into TTT/PB all the time for RDM/Freekills.

Once I join I have to watch, if they do it again, thats when i take action.

It's up to the players to report the players with proof.

[DarkJesture]

We need proof, its simple as that.

 

If we do not see it, we cannot do jack.

If everyone said X person freekilled and we banned them, looked at logs and they didn't, we would like like total asses.

Understand, we are not babysitters, I get called into TTT/PB all the time for RDM/Freekills.

Once I join I have to watch, if they do it again, thats when i take action.

It's up to the players to report the players with proof.

Again, with miniscule investigative and reasoning skills, you can come to the correct conclusion.

 

If it's the second round and a ct has 30 kills in prison break with everyone screaming freekiller, I think it's safe to assume he's an actual free killer.

 

I never said to fully base decisions off of hear-say, I simply said to allow that option if an admin came to the logical conclusion.

[Ayjin]

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/search.php?searchid=96668

 

Without your post, my issue would have never been solved...

 

On a serious note, please read the post before being an ass.

All I see is you trashing on admins for not trusting someone's word over having to see it themselves, in my opinion, that's not worth reading. Notify an admin, tell him to go undercover, there you go. If you want to talk about how inactive the admins are or you having more bans than half of them, then I'm going to feel like I shouldn't acknowledge your post.

 

I spend the majority of my time on the servers, even with the schedule my life has at the moment. This isn't source, stop using that as your go to, things have changed, rules have changed, people have changed, so adjust to the change like most people have. Reguardless if that said person stops breaking the rules or leaves when an admin gets on, doesn't that stop the rule breaking for the time?

 

If you're looking for a rule breaking free server, there are none. JB is one of the most active servers, with admins on most of the time to survey over it. Be glad we keep it under control most of the time, and stop complaining about the little time in which admins aren't on. Not all of us devote our lives to this.

[Goku]

Back on source if you called an admin in and filled them in on what happened, they'd usually ask a couple other players and ban the rule breaker on the spot

 

I don't recall that being a thing. If it was, it wasn't used often or for very long. Afaik admins have always needed to have proof before doing something. If someone is really mass freekilling, then you can easily prove that with screenshots and demos. If someone mass freekills once, I understand you not catching it on demo. But a one time offense wouldn't get him banned anyway. If someone mass freekilling, start demoing.

 

Also, blame whichever admin you called in for entering with their tag on. If a player asks me to come take care of a rule breaker, I always change my name first. It's the smart and logical thing to do. If the admin enters with SG on, that's their fault.

 

They are just glorified baby sitters.

 

Ah, I see we are on the same page then. Thank you for coming around on the matter.