Remove this map from the server? 12 members have voted

[Dominic]

Map Removal

Full map name

jb_space_jail_sg

Type of map

Jail Break

Why should we remove it

While I love this map, I have a few issues with it.

 

The first one being that scout tower, yes, people say since it has a code, it's fine.

Now if I'm not wrong, it's the same code all the time, it doesn't change like Lego Jail. CTs very very frequently camp that spot.

 

Another one of my problems is that vent in soccer. If you didn't know there is a vent in kitchen and soccer hallway that leads into a little room with boxes. CTs will often give a freeday and immediately retreat to that spot.

 

Another minor thing is the stairs in the "Knife Arena". With the roof being so low down in the twin rooms on each side, you cant actually walk up the stairs without crouching.

 

I think it's time for this map to be removed. (If I'm wrong about the code to the tower always being the same, that's my fault, but still there is nothing to do about that soccer/kitchen vent.

[Black Rain]

I gotta disagree mainly because of the fact that this is one of the most popular maps we've had since CS:S. People will always be willing to play it and it's why it's still played when it got ported to GO.

[Dominic]

I gotta disagree mainly because of the fact that this is one of the most popular maps we've had since CS:S. People will always be willing to play it and it's why it's still played when it got ported to GO.

 

My main issue is with that scout tower, one or two CTs will go up there during a freeday and the Ts cant do anything.

 

Is it possible to make the code different everytime?

[Black Rain]

My main issue is with that scout tower, one or two CTs will go up there during a freeday and the Ts cant do anything.

 

Is it possible to make the code different everytime?

 

We've had people do that when we played this during Source and it still was never removed from rotation due to popularity. Ts can do things but it's just about being more sneakier about rebelling. If it's the concern about killing the guy in the scout tower then it's just spray and pray the guy gets nailed lol. I honestly don't mind this map but I don't think removing it just because of a scout tower is really worth it.

[Dominic]

We've had people do that when we played this during Source and it still was never removed from rotation due to popularity. Ts can do things but it's just about being more sneakier about rebelling. If it's the concern about killing the guy in the scout tower then it's just spray and pray the guy gets nailed lol. I honestly don't mind this map but I don't think removing it just because of a scout tower is really worth it.

 

I'm completely okay with Lego Jail tower, and I get what you mean by having to be sneakier, but between that camping spot and the kitchen/soccer vent it doesn't get much worse in terms of camping. Most of the time on the map when it's last CT the whole round will go by.

[Metal]

No.

This map has a mix of everything.

 

Yes the map does lack some of the things we have in other maps, plus blame the CT.s

[Nuclear Onion]

With all due respect to the frustrations, there isn't a way to edit your fixes without actual map editing skills, and to be honest the issues are pretty minimal and can survive without them. The code for Lego may change, but that doesn't make it exactly impossible for you to just do a different code another round. Even if there was a different code every round, that won't truly prevent people from getting in the tower every round.

 

The soccer hallway secret can be learned by the players as they play the map, which really goes by any other vent/secret on any other map.

 

The stairs issue is close to the same as the one with saunas pistol. That's probably less than minor since I don't even remember the last person to go on this stairs.

 

Does anyone else actuallywant this to be removed, be honest here.

[Dominic]

With all due respect to the frustrations, there isn't a way to edit your fixes without actual map editing skills, and to be honest the issues are pretty minimal and can survive without them. The code for Lego may change, but that doesn't make it exactly impossible for you to just do a different code another round. Even if there was a different code every round, that won't truly prevent people from getting in the tower every round.

 

The soccer hallway secret can be learned by the players as they play the map, which really goes by any other vent/secret on any other map.

 

The stairs issue is close to the same as the one with saunas pistol. That's probably less than minor since I don't even remember the last person to go on this stairs.

 

Does anyone else actuallywant this to be removed, be honest here.

 

My main issue was the tower, if there is no possible way to make it so where the code isn't the same everytime I guess there's no point in me complaining about it.

 

You can go ahead and reject this. :ok:

[Zaraki]

No, taking away one of the most popular maps because you can't beat another player with an advantage (beeing that tower) is not a reason to remove it.

This map has been on rotation since PB CSS and we had the same 'issue' there. It's a balanced map and it's up to the Terrorist team to get them out of that tower.

 

I do agree that CT's camping on the same spot every round can be annoying but that's not a reason to delete the map

 

Rejected

[Nuclear Onion]

Rejected

 

oi, that's my line

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Demoted and banned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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