Last Requests

[CollieFlower]

Not to be a repeat, but an lr is an lr. Thats not an order. If another ct Interfered, then they get slayed. Its still a freekill because the t was granted an lr.

[Caution]

Lock it or not, imo, this still needs change. Many rules are weird like the " Any damage done to a CT is KOS." That includes LRs, Preknifing, throwing a smoke directly on a guard, etc. It needs to be clarified. You shouldn't be KOS for having a "shot for shot until I die" lr, many guards stop you after the first one. You can clarify thag as a "douchey move" but that won't stop most of the guards to do it.

 

Thats just my opinion pls no ban

 

They should stop you after the first one. It's a LAST request. Meaning you get one activity to perform.

 

 

@Wawa @Nuclear Onion if you guys could clarify about OP, I'd appreciate it. I'm under a different impression from Black Rain. The rules say that if a T damages a CT, they're KOS...there isn't a clause that says '...unless they're knife fighting a CT...' Not really arguing whether the rule should or should not be changed here, just saying it seems pretty obviously worded: If the Terrorist causes any damage to the CT, he's KOS.

[Caution]

Rule Clarification #3:

 

If a T attacks a CT for any reason, the T can be killed.

 

So why are people getting slayed? Admins - you're slaying people for following something that is clearly listed as a rule?

 

"...any reason..." is not ambiguous. It's pretty cut-and-dry.

[Black Rain]

 

 

@Wawa @Nuclear Onion if you guys could clarify about OP, I'd appreciate it. I'm under a different impression from Black Rain. The rules say that if a T damages a CT, they're KOS...there isn't a clause that says '...unless they're knife fighting a CT...' Not really arguing whether the rule should or should not be changed here, just saying it seems pretty obviously worded: If the Terrorist causes any damage to the CT, he's KOS.

 

I mean yeah that's obvious and I understand and agree with that statement for the rule. Once a T already does damage then he/she is KOS but whenever there is a knife fight then it's usually acknowledged that those two people are going to be having a fight to see who wins. I was just saying in situations like knife fights, CTs usually acknowledge that theres gonna be a 1 vs 1 and they normally let it play out.

 

But if you're saying it's okay to kill a T during the middle of an LR because he/she inflicts some damage to the CT that's involved in the LR, then how is it fair to the T that wants to finish the LR? Just wondering because I'm used to seeing the fact that Ts normally get to complete their LRs before dying in the middle of it.

[ExRev]

But if you're saying it's okay to kill a T during the middle of an LR because he/she inflicts some damage to the CT that's involved in the LR, then how is it fair to the T that wants to finish the LR? Just wondering because I'm used to seeing the fact that Ts normally get to complete their LRs before dying in the middle of it.

 

^ This. And people wonder why Ts don't want to do things like knife fight, s4s, etc. anymore for their LRs

[Caution]

As I said, I'm not debating what should or should not be a rule. That isn't really the point of this thread. I'm actually on board and agree that they should be able to carry out their respective LR.

 

The fact is that it IS listed as a rule. Regardless of what you think, I think, or the guy down the street thinks, it is visibly listed as a rule for all of our players to see, and they should not be slayed for following that rule. If you don't like it, then petition to have it removed or reworded.

[roux]

They should stop you after the first one. It's a LAST request. Meaning you get one activity to perform.

 

 

@Wawa @Nuclear Onion if you guys could clarify about OP, I'd appreciate it. I'm under a different impression from Black Rain. The rules say that if a T damages a CT, they're KOS...there isn't a clause that says '...unless they're knife fighting a CT...' Not really arguing whether the rule should or should not be changed here, just saying it seems pretty obviously worded: If the Terrorist causes any damage to the CT, he's KOS.

 

The only thing that needs to be changed is mainly LR. In Bubblez situation, a CT should not kill a prisonner DURING a last request. There should be exceptions to the rule#3 concerning last requests.

 

Also, in the exemple given in my previous comment was a little unclear I guess, but the entire LR is given especially to the last prisonners with the approbation of the guards. If they give it, The prisonner is allowed to play the 'Shot 4 Shot' game until the prisonner fails to kill the guard he's playing against.

 

But ofc, that's still only my opinion

[Caution]

The only thing that needs to be changed is mainly LR. In Bubblez situation, a CT should not kill a guard DURING a last request.

 

I 100% agree with this (believe you meant kill a T), but until this is changed, admins should not be punishing people for following a server rule. That's ridiculous.

[Luke]

As I said, I'm not debating what should or should not be a rule. That isn't really the point of this thread. I'm actually on board and agree that they should be able to carry out their respective LR.

 

The fact is that it IS listed as a rule. Regardless of what you think, I think, or the guy down the street thinks, it is visibly listed as a rule for all of our players to see, and they should not be slayed for following that rule. If you don't like it, then petition to have it removed or reworded.

 

As I said previously in this thread, this pretty much ^

 

Though I've debated before and debate now that I believe it should be changed. As Caution has said, the point of this thread is for that situation.

 

@Asteria pointed out that apparently there was no damage done to the CT, so yes, that is a freekill under the current rules. However if any damage was to be done to the CT - under the official rules - they may be killed regardless of the situation.

 

Perhaps this thread should be locked and further discussion of the actual rule itself can be discussed in a new thread? (Or elsewhere, such as between the AO's of PB)

[Nuclear Onion]

I'm about 99% sure @Wawa would agree with me in the case that this should get changed. Just would like to confirm with him before I go on ahead and change something obviously. It's honestly a silly concept now that it's brought up like this, that's like giving a prisoner his last meal and killing him before he finishes it, cruel and unusual lol.

 

I'll make a separate thread confirming this later. Until then this will be locked. Thanks for bringing this up.