Crawfish Posted October 18, 2016 Content Count: 1061 Joined: 05/19/16 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2016 Sorry, but is this really necessary? I think we're overthinking this guys. Admins have the ability to see who failknifes a zombie forward. If somebody is intentionally griefing (happened to me before) they can be warned, then kicked, then banned for repeat offenses. They are not following the rules that say teamwork is required, and in my opinion it's also the same as teamkilling. This just seems like another fun thing on the server that is not really a problem. In fact, I've found it very helpful to use to survive if you somehow get stuck behind zombies. You CAN knife zombies sideways instead of launching them to the front of the humans. I really don't think the people in our servers would reflect the same opinion that this needs to be removed/reduced significantly. Link to comment
Wesker Posted October 19, 2016 Content Count: 1534 Joined: 07/27/09 Status: Offline Share Posted October 19, 2016 Sorry, but is this really necessary? I think we're overthinking this guys. Admins have the ability to see who failknifes a zombie forward. If somebody is intentionally griefing (happened to me before) they can be warned, then kicked, then banned for repeat offenses. They are not following the rules that say teamwork is required, and in my opinion it's also the same as teamkilling. This just seems like another fun thing on the server that is not really a problem. In fact, I've found it very helpful to use to survive if you somehow get stuck behind zombies. You CAN knife zombies sideways instead of launching them to the front of the humans. I really don't think the people in our servers would reflect the same opinion that this needs to be removed/reduced significantly. Sometimes a group of people will start knifing at the same time and it is difficult to determine who sends the zombie into humans - and then you have to prove that person is intentionally trolling (assuming they have not done so previously) On the other hand leaving this in the game keeps it fresh & entertaining on dull maps In the end I would leave it up to the players, do a vote in-game and see what they say. Link to comment
Crawfish Posted October 19, 2016 Content Count: 1061 Joined: 05/19/16 Status: Offline Share Posted October 19, 2016 In the end I would leave it up to the players, do a vote in-game and see what they say. I think that's a really great idea and @CrazySwede suggested the same. I made a thread below for all admins to post the results of their in-game votes. Feel free to check it out and let me know what you think. I believe this will add another perspective that we miss by limiting this discussion to just the forums. Personally, I plan to do a few more votes because I am very interested to see what the average player thinks. Please, if you make an sm_vote, try not to influence it in any way. http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=70207 Link to comment
Black Rain Posted October 20, 2016 Content Count: 6759 Joined: 06/23/13 Status: Offline Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'm not gonna straight up remove this tbh. You guys had this feature for years and the only reason this is in debate is because we now have a player base that doesn't properly think how to use the knife. I can consider a nerf but removal I won't do it. You guys use this as an extra tactic against zombies. All of you guys have used this once to save your butts from being tagged by a zombie, so you know it's a helpful feature to have and that it exists for a reason. I also agree with Swede that it makes the game more funny. Sorry, but is this really necessary? I think we're overthinking this guys. Admins have the ability to see who failknifes a zombie forward. If somebody is intentionally griefing (happened to me before) they can be warned, then kicked, then banned for repeat offenses. They are not following the rules that say teamwork is required, and in my opinion it's also the same as teamkilling. This just seems like another fun thing on the server that is not really a problem. In fact, I've found it very helpful to use to survive if you somehow get stuck behind zombies. You CAN knife zombies sideways instead of launching them to the front of the humans. I really don't think the people in our servers would reflect the same opinion that this needs to be removed/reduced significantly. This is something I completely agree with. 3 Link to comment
insane memories Posted October 20, 2016 Content Count: 127 Joined: 02/27/16 Status: Offline Share Posted October 20, 2016 please implement this so there are no more zombies flying into the group of humans out of nowhere Link to comment
Black Rain Posted October 20, 2016 Content Count: 6759 Joined: 06/23/13 Status: Offline Share Posted October 20, 2016 please implement this so there are no more zombies flying into the group of humans out of nowhere I literally posted before you saying I'm not removing the pushback. If the majority of players want a reduced knock back then I'll look into it otherwise removing this is a no. Link to comment
Fro$tY Posted October 30, 2016 Content Count: 164 Joined: 05/21/16 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2016 The pushback that zombies get when knifed by humans is kinda pointless in my eyes. All i really see it doing is causing trouble, from ruining rounds at the start to boosting zombies to the end of the map. If it is possible, I would like to see it removed, as it doesn't provide much benefit, and overall will just cause people to get mad/frusterated since it's almost never used for its intended purpose; to keep zombies away from the group of humans and delay the zombies from advancing. i too agree with solid for this issue so plz just nerf the knife pushbacks or lower the value of it Link to comment
Fro$tY Posted October 30, 2016 Content Count: 164 Joined: 05/21/16 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2016 As the the forum-active players of ZE are a vast minority I would highly recommend to ask around on the server a couple of times what the general gaming population there thinks. It's not uncommon that the general opinions between forum members and none-forum members on ZE have a big difference in opinion regarding the game mechanics of ZE. Personally I am against reducing the pushback on the knife as it is and always has been something big and funny of ZE. Yes, it can be used to TK with. But that's just like Kurohime said. It's like removing incendiary grenades from TTT as it's often used to RDM. But if it would turn out a true majority of ZE actually DO want to nerf it, then by all means do it. I am a huge fan of picking the most popular opinion. but most of the times our server is filled wit new ppl to ze who do not know anything about it so i recommend u to take votes of top 100 or 200 players on ze i think as they are the most experienced players of our ze server Link to comment
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