Four Posted November 8, 2016 Content Count: 1403 Joined: 09/15/16 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2016 I have thought long and hard and basically the detective only has a select few items that it can have without being over powered. That being said I have come up with an item that reveals to the server the death of the detective as soon as it happens. Ex. T kills detective *Detective Four was killed by a Traitor! (the body would then automatically be identified. The item would be a heartbeat monitor. It isn't that much but I have found a website that sort of has a code for it but I didn't entirely know if this was in CS:GO or Gmod but here is a link - https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1391305 Also in the forums there was a detective item that was called a riot shield which probably means that the detective can some how deflect bullets, I am pretty sure it can't be implemented in CS:GO but I thought I would mention it. 1 Link to comment
Luke Posted November 8, 2016 Content Count: 2230 Joined: 12/14/15 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) I find this quite an interesting suggestion, I also love the fact that it's for the detective ;) Perhaps we should be focusing more on gameplay rather than realism when I think this but if the detective has a heartbeat monitor my question is how would all of the other inno's actually know in real life as soon as he's dead without seeing the monitor (which would mean they'd be close enough to id anyways) or hearing it? (but then it'd have to be ridiculously loud irl to cover the largest TTT map) But of course real life doesn't really matter when making something work game-specific. I like the direction of this idea and my personal suggestion would be having a similar kind of thing where a detective can buy the monitor so that other detectives all know when he's dead, or he could choose a detective that he'd like to know if they were alive or dead. With my first adaptation of only other detectives knowing the thought process is that it would make more sense to me if the detectives coming onto this scene all had the ability to buy the heartbeat monitor which allows the other detectives to know when they die as they would have the tracking equipment. I do however understand that realism isn't really necessary and the whole argument of 'What's the point in having only a detective know when it's easier to just have a message in the chat rather than the detective having to tell everyone?' - I'm not sure, I may have even just given the reason this idea is invalid but I'd like to see what others think of it. My second adaption would be that you could choose another detective when buying the item (I'd assume through a menu as that seems easier) and check the life of that fellow detective. It's basically like my first one but it's for checking other people. A further adaption of this would be the 'alive checker' that would allow the detective to find out if one specific person (including inno's) is alive. This would be useful in a situation where someone is speaking on mic or doesn't respond to an alive check etc. Just throwing ideas out there as I like the concept of the 'heartbeat monitor' that four brought up. Ideas and opinions? tl;dr: I like the concept of this idea, perhaps one that tells other detectives or allows you to find out if another detective (or potentially inno) of your choosing is alive could also be an idea 1 Edited November 8, 2016 by Luke added tl;dr Link to comment
Black Rain Posted November 8, 2016 Content Count: 6759 Joined: 06/23/13 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) It isn't that much but I have found a website that sort of has a code for it but I didn't entirely know if this was in CS:GO or Gmod but here is a link - https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1391305 *opens link and first observation* Js lol. Edit: also, tactical shield doesn't officially exist for GO like it did for 1.6. There are signs of some commands that relate to it because of equipping weapons with a shield convar but there's no actual model of it. Even if a custom one exists, it might be a GSLT Ban since it is Valve's model idea but custom-made by a developer (https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2388644&postcount=8). A person made some video of a shield item for GO a few months back but it's awful because it doesn't replicate the 1.6 one so it'd be unfair to use against Traitors. It allows people to deflect while shooting unlike the original one where in order to shoot you must unshield yourself. Don't think it's got an vulnerable spots either like the feet being exposed. It seems like he made the model but the only info he gave in his video were 2 cvars to use and nothing about how to download the files for the shield. 1 Edited November 8, 2016 by Black Rain Link to comment
Four Posted November 8, 2016 Content Count: 1403 Joined: 09/15/16 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2016 *opens link and first observation* Js lol. I am very oblivious I must say, but anyways I think this still could be possible to implement. @R3TROATTACK Link to comment
Akumu Posted November 8, 2016 Content Count: 415 Joined: 07/21/16 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2016 It shows that you thought about your idea, I love the idea of more t items other than just buying armor and tasers. But the problem that would come with the heartbeat monitor is that If someone is like. I'm near *RANDOM GUY* and then with the heartbeat monitor you see the guy who called him out die. You could call an instant kos on him which is OP since you don't actually need to see a body. You know he's dead. What I would suggest is that you have the Taser and the Heartbeat Monitor together. So whoever you tased will be monitored. This would prevent you from knowing everyone the status of everyone on the map. Increases the effectiveness of the tasers and can help you keep track of those you tased. So tasing other Detectives wouldn't be stupid anymore. As for the Riot Shield. Deflecting bullets would encourage people to camp rooms. But I think it's a great idea if we make it the same speed as a pistol/knife so you could actually survive someone spraying you down and have time to react. So instead of running with your knife out unable to shoot or running with your rifle. You could actually be safe while being able to go fast. PS: I saw a video where it showcased the Riot shield in ttt. The shield would block 100% of the bullet damage. So I'd suggest that some guns may be able to penetrate the shield or make it block less bullets. Thankyou Four for making a suggestion! 1 Link to comment
R3TROATTACK Posted November 8, 2016 Content Count: 1396 Joined: 09/14/12 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2016 Yes the heartbeat monitors possible and the simple answer for riot shields is no going to happen, but then again I don't plan on working on anything ttt related for at least a month Link to comment
Nuclear Onion Posted November 9, 2016 Content Count: 3462 Joined: 04/07/13 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2016 I don't plan on working on anything ttt related for at least a month FUCKING FAGGOT 3 Link to comment
WavY Posted November 9, 2016 Content Count: 1020 Joined: 12/23/15 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2016 but then again I don't plan on working on anything ttt related for at least a month but why #tttmasterrace jk ily take your time Link to comment
Rye Posted November 9, 2016 Content Count: 788 Joined: 03/13/16 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2016 It shows that you thought about your idea, I love the idea of more t items other than just buying armor and tasers. But the problem that would come with the heartbeat monitor is that If someone is like. I'm near *RANDOM GUY* and then with the heartbeat monitor you see the guy who called him out die. You could call an instant kos on him which is OP since you don't actually need to see a body. You know he's dead. What I would suggest is that you have the Taser and the Heartbeat Monitor together. So whoever you tased will be monitored. This would prevent you from knowing everyone the status of everyone on the map. Increases the effectiveness of the tasers and can help you keep track of those you tased. So tasing other Detectives wouldn't be stupid anymore. As for the Riot Shield. Deflecting bullets would encourage people to camp rooms. But I think it's a great idea if we make it the same speed as a pistol/knife so you could actually survive someone spraying you down and have time to react. So instead of running with your knife out unable to shoot or running with your rifle. You could actually be safe while being able to go fast. PS: I saw a video where it showcased the Riot shield in ttt. The shield would block 100% of the bullet damage. So I'd suggest that some guns may be able to penetrate the shield or make it block less bullets. Thankyou Four for making a suggestion! Reading what Akumu said, it could be very easily abused to get people killed at random. A detective could purchase this monitor, then say "I'm with (name) if I die!" Then they proceed to kill them self with a suicide in console or some other way, identifying their body and putting it in chat, getting the person's name he called KOS'd even though he never actually did anything. The only solution around this is that if a detective did do this, it would instead say "Detective (name) tragically ended their own life!" If that was even possible. Link to comment
Four Posted November 9, 2016 Content Count: 1403 Joined: 09/15/16 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Reading what Akumu said, it could be very easily abused to get people killed at random. A detective could purchase this monitor, then say "I'm with (name) if I die!" Then they proceed to kill them self with a suicide in console or some other way, identifying their body and putting it in chat, getting the person's name he called KOS'd even though he never actually did anything. The only solution around this is that if a detective did do this, it would instead say "Detective (name) tragically ended their own life!" If that was even possible. Edit: I can see where you are coming from @Rye but in my opinion I don't feel this is going to be abused for the fact that detectives don't normally take their lives. This item isn't game-breaking. I do believe that if it is possible to add the message "Detective (name) tragically ended their own life!" when they do commit suicide would be a smart idea for a chance of abusing the item. Although throughout my research viewing this detective item, it might be a small change to the gameplay. It will in fact be an addition most detective will buy every life similar to the armour. Edited November 9, 2016 by Four I felt my post wasn't a strong point so I re-wrote it. Link to comment
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