SCRIM AWARD 26 members have voted

[Black Rain]

My guess is that tracking players total matches played or total wins like that isn't possible. There's a slight chance that someone could make a plugin to track these stats, but again, it's doubtful that it would be compatible with the scrim system in use.

 

Pretty much this atm ^ not even GameMe tracks those things. If this were to be an award then it'd be round wins accumulated over matches won. Only reason why is because even certain matches you sub in during the middle of the game would most likely add to the count of matches won. Not that you didn't win fairly, its just you got a win by playing part of the match instead of the whole thing like the rest of your teammates did. Just my thought process behind it.

[Dominic]

Pretty much this atm ^ not even GameMe tracks those things. If this were to be an award then it'd be round wins accumulated over matches won. Only reason why is because even certain matches you sub in during the middle of the game would most likely add to the count of matches won. Not that you didn't win fairly, its just you got a win by playing part of the match instead of the whole thing like the rest of your teammates did. Just my thought process behind it.

 

For round wins, doesn't GameMe track that, or does something not work with that? https://gyazo.com/4b06ad138c689c8d7edf16de10288ef0

[Four]

Pretty much this atm ^ not even GameMe tracks those things. If this were to be an award then it'd be round wins accumulated over matches won. Only reason why is because even certain matches you sub in during the middle of the game would most likely add to the count of matches won. Not that you didn't win fairly, its just you got a win by playing part of the match instead of the whole thing like the rest of your teammates did. Just my thought process behind it.

 

I completely agree, I would understand that if we implemented the award it would be counted towards round wins rather than game wins due to players subbing in mid-game. That being said I was told that Round wins are counted through GameMe which you stated. The only step left to do is to come up with the official numbers for the actual award.

[Bread]

Pretty much this atm ^ not even GameMe tracks those things. If this were to be an award then it'd be round wins accumulated over matches won. Only reason why is because even certain matches you sub in during the middle of the game would most likely add to the count of matches won. Not that you didn't win fairly, its just you got a win by playing part of the match instead of the whole thing like the rest of your teammates did. Just my thought process behind it.

 

To add onto this, the purpose of the awards are to encourage people to play in our more popular servers, which benefit the community by attracting new members. Scrim on the other hand, is just meant for you to hop on with your friends and have a fun scrim game, and nothing more - creating incentives to play on it is relatively pointless, at least in my opinion.

[Black Rain]

To add onto this, the purpose of the awards are to encourage people to play in our more popular servers, which benefit the community by attracting new members. Scrim on the other hand, is just meant for you to hop on with your friends and have a fun scrim game, and nothing more - creating incentives to play on it is relatively pointless, at least in my opinion.

 

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Scrim doesn't really desperately need a player base. It's there for your amusement to have your own pug matches just like it was in CS:S. Benefiting the community by attracting new players to scrim might not matter as much because people can either find out about scrim through our forums or thru another SG member. People that stumble across our server randomly by server browser can't really join in without knowing the pass so we don't really gain new members anyways. The awards for other servers are trying to encourage our players to spend more time on those servers. We're not necessarily saying don't play on our scrim server and that we don't want people, its just that we'd prefer our players to spend more time on ZE, TTT, JB and MG over scrim because we have stronger player bases there. It's kinda why I'm not really interested in adding Scrim Awards

 

P.S. Also just saw the statistics summary part on GameMe I overlooked xd

[Four]

To add onto this, the purpose of the awards are to encourage people to play in our more popular servers, which benefit the community by attracting new members. Scrim on the other hand, is just meant for you to hop on with your friends and have a fun scrim game, and nothing more - creating incentives to play on it is relatively pointless, at least in my opinion.

 

Awards defiantly are an incentive to populate our more popular servers, the players that already are regulars & admins have spoken through the pole to a 5:1 ratio. I have support when I say that this would be just another addition to the already large award list.

 

I understand that awards are for increasing time played on our servers but for those that play on the servers daily they basically are just bragging rights underneath your avi, that being said I know plenty of members that'd be up for the addition of the scrim award. (The poll clearly shows the community approves).

 

To add on to this it wouldn't be that much of a hassle to make, @Post already made the images to go along with the award, @LampShade came up with perfect numbers that could work for the award.

 

We'd just need you to sign off on it.

 

Edit: The numbers just keep rising @Black Rain

[Nuclear Onion]

Awards defiantly are an incentive to populate our more popular servers, the players that already are regulars & admins have spoken through the pole to a 5:1 ratio. I have support when I say that this would be just another addition to the already large award list.

 

I understand that awards are for increasing time played on our servers but for those that play on the servers daily they basically are just bragging rights underneath your avi, that being said I know plenty of members that'd be up for the addition of the scrim award. (The poll clearly shows the community approves).

 

To add on to this it wouldn't be that much of a hassle to make, @Post already made the images to go along with the award, @LampShade came up with perfect numbers that could work for the award.

 

We'd just need you to sign off on it.

 

Edit: The numbers just keep rising @Black Rain

 

There's no one denying the poll says what it says, but I think we have to point out here that you're going to have a good amount of your admins/regs wanting to populate scrim everyday, while it being nice that people are having fun, but this doesn't benefit the servers SG wants to keep populated. You have to account for the fact that higher ups want you guys to play more on the servers that can actually benefit SG in terms of population increase and community gain. SG gains nothing by having 10 of its admins/regulars constantly playing scrim in order to get awards, that's not what SG's plan was when adding the awards for MG/JB/Surf/TTT/ZE.

 

Also I want to point out that the stats showing "rounds won" is not clear enough to rely on it fully. The round wins can also be based on warmups/special events you guys may have on the server besides normal scrims. So I just can't see the specific stat being good enough to be deemed reliable to makeup for an award.

 

Sure, the poll may show people liking this idea, but I can guarantee you people on the back end (as shown with Bread and Blackrain's previous posts) are not as big of fans of this idea as much as everyone else is.

[R3TROATTACK]

Just what I think of this @Four

 

• First of all @Black Rain can't actually add awards only BDs can so the only thing your accomplishing by tagging her in this again and again besides not getting this added is annoying here.
  
• This award wouldn't help scrim at all and here is a few reasons why
  
  • As @Nuclear Onion said the rounds wont be logged correctly because of special rounds and the warm up thing.
    
  • It would actually make scrim less fun because instead of people playing scrim for fun a lot of people would just play to try to get the awards and get salty when ever they lose a round.
    

   

  [*]Next thing is you really need to stop feeling so entitled to everything to yourself you may not come off this way but to almost everyone else you do.

 

Now that I've said my peace about you and this thread I'll go back to being an irrelevant LG

[Rye]

I've been reading the points being added, and @Black Rain and @Bread bring up things that I agree with. I've never looked at the scrim server as a daily thing that NEEDS to be populated, such as all of the other servers such as TTT/MG/JB/ZE. I look at scrim as something where it's usually a one game thing with other SG members, i never find myself playing 4-5 matches in a row and i doubt anyone else has time for that.

 

We don't need this added as an "incentive" to populate scrim. Scrim gets populated on its own we don't need people being a "regular" on scrim. Also adding the fact that it's password protected so that randoms don't get on the server. The server is intended for people already integrated in to the community, we don't need to try and get people on it.

 

TL;DR we don't need scrim awards

[Exk]

I wasn't gonna comment but fuck it.

Scrim's aren't suppose to have any merit. Scrim's intentions date back to 1.6 where teams practiced with each other. Thats what a scrim is, just practice. To put some form of merit into the server defeats scrims as a whole. It'd also just form more unfair teams. Etc: I'll just start doing setups and taking lets say 'EmJuly.' I'm pretty sure in almost all cases no one on the other team will be happy with that.

On a side note though, im curious to why raffle isn't included to our scrim servers though since it is a server. @Black Rain