SkinnyDips Posted February 21, 2017 Content Count: 179 Joined: 04/22/16 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Hello, SkinnyDips here. Ever since the jailbreak server slot was increased to 28, I have been confused. Everyone here knows that jailbreak is the hardest server to admin. Even at 24 slots, when the server was full it was just not fun to play. Everyone is screaming over one another on the mic and ts cant here cts orders, ts get shot then complain and it all becomes a cycle of yelling and spamming in the voice chat. With 28 people on the server, it becomes even worse with me having to turn my VOIP down to around 1 to play. If we cant add some sort of restriction to the ct side, we need to decrease the amount of players joining the server. In this video below I have a prime example of whats happening with @Frostbitten trying to explain a slay he made, while the entire ct team is screaming on the mic. I feel bad for the admins, and to the quiet players as well. Thanks for your time, SkinnyDips Edited February 21, 2017 by SkinnyDips Link to comment
Dominic Posted February 21, 2017 Content Count: 5678 Joined: 01/07/16 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2017 I don't know what you mean by a restriction to people joining the server, but if you mean a decrease in slots I disagree. One reason is because all more slots does is increase our server rank and gain more new people. Another reason is because I honestly don't think 4 people would make the big difference in the example you've shown. While many admins disagree with me here, I don't find Jailbreak hard to admin, 24 slots or 28 slots, I didn't see a difference in my ability to keep up with everything. Now, all admins are different, but still, I really don't think 4 people would make a huge impact. I agree with a restriction to the amount of players on CT side, but there are ups and downs to it and I'm not sure how well it would work out. 2 Link to comment
BlackWhite Posted February 21, 2017 Content Count: 2262 Joined: 02/05/12 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I am not sure if i understood the clip right but...people are allowed to camp armory because there is 5 teleporter able to tp to armory? Anyway, My main volume is 0.1 and VOIP is 0.5 whenever i play PB. I kind of get used to the screaming and yelling. For now, the current AOs JAKE, SL4de and Caution have no intention of adding restriction to the CT since they wanted to keep the server as vanilla as possible. While many admins disagree with me here, I don't find Jailbreak hard to admin, 24 slots or 28 slots, I didn't see a difference in my ability to keep up with everything. Now, all admins are different, but still, I really don't think 4 people would make a huge impact. I agreed on the point 4 people wouldn't make a huge impact, because the situation is the same, having 3 people getting free kills by different people and you had to explain to the CT they can't do that or to T that they disobey order etc etc. while it's not hard when it only happened once by one person, but sole admin in the server is unable to keep up the complains. Unless you ignore some cases where only one person complaining, like some admins did. Edited February 21, 2017 by BlackWhite Link to comment
SkinnyDips Posted February 21, 2017 Content Count: 179 Joined: 04/22/16 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2017 I am not sure if i understood the clip right but...people are allowed to camp armory because there is 5 teleporter able to tp to armory? Anyway, My main volume is 0.1 and VOIP is 0.5 whenever i play PB. I kind of get used to the screaming and yelling. For now, the current AOs JAKE, SL4de and Caution have no intention of adding restriction to the CT since they wanted to keep the server as vanilla as possible. I agreed on the point 4 people wouldn't make a huge impact, because the situation is the same, having 3 people getting free kills by different people and you had to explain to the CT they can't do that or to T that they disobey order etc etc. while it's not hard when it only happened once by one person, but sole admin in the server is unable to keep up the complains. Unless you ignore some cases where only one person complaining, like some admins did.The clip was an example to how much yelling there is when cts are trying to give orders and an admin is there. Frostbitten had no control because just everyone was yelling. If we had less on the server, it would have been easier for cts to give orders, and for Frostbitten to address the issues he was facing. Link to comment
Dominic Posted February 21, 2017 Content Count: 5678 Joined: 01/07/16 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2017 The clip was an example to how much yelling there is when cts are trying to give orders and an admin is there. Frostbitten had no control because just everyone was yelling. If we had less on the server, it would have been easier for cts to give orders, and for Frostbitten to address the issues he was facing. But the thing is, the same exact thing can happen with 24 people on and someone can make the same exact argument and tell us we need to lower slots from there. Just because we stuck with 24 slots for a while doesn't mean it's the perfect option because things like your video will happen either way. 1 Link to comment
FLuiD Posted February 22, 2017 Content Count: 1083 Joined: 12/23/15 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2017 Personally I do find it slightly hard to admin by myself when there is a full server, however I don't think 24 would be much better and anything below that is just not enough players imo. Ofc in pb there are always people being loud and obnoxious, I think that is just a given. In addition to this, the server is constantly near or at max players so I think it is working alright for now. 1 Link to comment
Nemesis Posted February 22, 2017 Content Count: 660 Joined: 05/13/08 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2017 The problem isn't in the slots but the retards that fill the ct team i'm afraid. Most of them simply havnt learned that talking when somebody else is on the mic just makes both people inaudible. This coupled with the fact that for some reason the T's hold a lifelong grudge for losing their 5 minute life because of a missfire just makes this server a hell sometimes. Link to comment
Jake Posted February 22, 2017 Content Count: 2001 Joined: 08/04/09 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hello, SkinnyDips here. Ever since the jailbreak server slot was increased to 28, I have been confused. Everyone here knows that jailbreak is the hardest server to admin. Even at 24 slots, when the server was full it was just not fun to play. Everyone is screaming over one another on the mic and ts cant here cts orders, ts get shot then complain and it all becomes a cycle of yelling and spamming in the voice chat. With 28 people on the server, it becomes even worse with me having to turn my VOIP down to around 1 to play. If we cant add some sort of restriction to the ct side, we need to decrease the amount of players joining the server. In this video below I have a prime example of whats happening with @Frostbitten trying to explain a slay he made, while the entire ct team is screaming on the mic. I feel bad for the admins, and to the quiet players as well. Thanks for your time, SkinnyDips Jailbreak is no harder to admin than any other server, it just takes different methods/strategies than over servers to manage properly. Decreasing the slots by 4 people will do absolutely nothing to stop with people talking over each other. Even when we had 24 slots people would talk over each other like this all of the time. If Ts are getting shot because of confusion than that is the fault of the CT and his team because they are not being clear. This is why there is a conflicting order rule on the server and an explanation to what conflicting orders are. Jailbreak is about the CTs working together to control the Ts and if they can't do that then they are only hurting themselves. As for the situation frost was if it was needed he could of muted the entire server to tell the one person why they were slain. However, im assuming he gave them warnings before hand about it and it really isn't necessary for him to mute the entire server to tell one person why they were killed. Also, there is text chat that he used in the video as well. I think he had control over the situation. Link to comment
Itch Posted February 22, 2017 Content Count: 3440 Joined: 12/12/07 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2017 The only way to get a peaceful JB server where you can understand what is being said is to limit it to 2 players. It's the nature of the mod. 24, 28, doesn't make a difference. Link to comment
All Ts Posted February 22, 2017 Content Count: 4441 Joined: 05/28/16 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2017 I've noticed the change of loudness & chaos since the slot change mostly due to there always being 2-3 more CTs than there used to be. You get a bunch of inexperienced CTs and bitchy Prisoners it can get super loud, cancerous, and overall unenjoyable. I'd be fine with reverting the changes honestly. Link to comment
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