grASSo (Wolf) Posted February 24, 2017 Content Count: 202 Joined: 10/10/15 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2017 Says he hates OneWays but uses them xd @Nimmy Link to comment
Kippe Posted February 24, 2017 Content Count: 1109 Joined: 04/30/12 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2017 I say there's nothing wrong with it because there isn't. The map is hands down one of the most popular maps in the entire JB community (even outside of ours) for years, and for good reason. The one way is far from OP. You already have a 50% chance of death IIRC when picking the first color, and if the first color is grey you still have a 50% chance of death since it doesn't follow the set Red to blue, blue to red concept. It's a high risk, and I would say medium reward. From that one way you can't see the entire map. You can only keep control over the portions of the main area that aren't covered by the cells. And there's also that invisible barrier where you can't shoot down the hallway or anything past it to the top left of main cells (top left when you're looking at it). And making the code completely random changes very little here. You won't see a decrease in CTs trying to go in. It's already a big risk as it is to go in. All you'll see is even more people dying on the second level, which is counterintuitive to your complaint of CTs Fucking over their team. This is straight up scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to complain about. If there's been a big increase since I left with CTs camping that one way, then it falls back to what I said in the afk freeze thread. Which is people need to start pulling the trigger more on CTs bullshit. If you notice a CT keeps either going there and camping every round, or going there and dying (and as such being of no use to his team at all) then move him and start punishing him. But going as far as to edit the map is just ridiculous. The map has been on the server since the creation of time and is one of the most popular JB maps ever. There's never once been an issue with the one way on this map, and it's often been pointed to as the best one way given its "puzzle" so to speak to get in there, and because it doesn't offer you an OP weapon such as an AWP or auto, and also doesn't give you complete control over the entire map. Making the code to get up there 100% random ruins the entire point of having the one way on the map. When talking about shitty one ways, I point to the one version of razor which had a one way you could just walk right into and iirc lock the door so no one could get in. That one was also harder to shoot into and given the layout of the map did command a little more control over the map. Again, I say there's nothing wrong with lego's one way because there straight up isn't. You aren't ever guaranteed to get the first color right, and even if you do get to the one way it doesn't offer you complete control. As a CT you can't stay up there constantly unless you're helping your team, and if CTs keep issuing freedays and camping it then that's when an admin steps in and shuts that shit down. As a T you can only do so much as well since a CT could either also pick the right colors and attack you, or they can use their man power to shoot through the window. One ways are fine as long as they aren't overused and overpowered. Lego does not fall into that category and going through the hassle of changing the map is just insane to me. Lego has never, ever, had an issue with camping or the map being heavily sided one way or the other. This is coming across to me as change for the sake of change. I am heavily against changing the map. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Fair enough. Though I've never really regarded it to be THAT overpowered, I've just always considered one ways broken by design, and lego has been the worst offender in my eyes. If only the map had grenades though... Link to comment
slalom Posted February 24, 2017 Content Count: 422 Joined: 11/25/16 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2017 Signed in just to reply to this shit... The code is random, so to speak. While yes, it is set that Red always leads to blue and vice versa, that first color is always different each round. And even if you get the first color right, if it was grey you still have a 50/50 chance of the next color being grey or yellow. Honestly, if it isn't broken, don't fuck with fix it. There is literally nothing wrong with the one way on lego unless you're just hunting for things to complain about. Its one of the few one ways I never had a problem with purely because you aren't ever guaranteed to get that first color right. Plus its easy as a T to break out of the cell with the vent, run through pool and get into the one way and rebel from there. Its also not impossible to kill someone that is in there, but it can and has been done, and used to be done quite often before. Tldr- Don't fuck with Lego's one way, there's nothing wrong with it. I agree with everything, but I think the door code should be completely randomized because it does abused sometimes by cts due to how easy it is to get in IMO. Link to comment
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