H4wKEye Posted April 6, 2017 Content Count: 228 Joined: 01/02/17 Status: Offline Share Posted April 6, 2017 LR Plugin Discussion LR plugins are used on a lot of other servers and I honestly have never seen a reason why not to add it. We discussed an LR plugin a few months ago during the server changes but we never really followed through.. hence this thread was made! I understand the server wants to be vanilla in a sense, but the reasoning behind that has been simplicity for new players rather than just for the sake of being "vanilla". It feels like the reason why people are against this is really petty and the fun we could have with it added outweighs us needlessly trying to keep the server vanilla. We should start taking changes for their merit & not smack them down just because we want to stay in our bubble. Pros : Shorter rounds. Server structure. More fun & versatile games. Cons : Forces CT to play. Can't really rebel or screw over CTs with LR as easily. Only plugin requires lots of configuring & disabling. Won't have every LR people could think of, but in that case they don't have to really use the command. Let me get more specific though so we don't have a thread about whether we want this or not only and we can actually discuss the logistics & merits of it being added. I believe that we could use Hosties, it's a longtime good plugin and with a few good changes to the cvar which is pretty much laid out perfectly we could change this to only have the components we would use. This plugin provides us with tons of Last Requests including but not limited to. Drunken Boxing Most Jumps Farthest Jump Brink of Death Race Russian Roulette Rebel Low-Grav Knife Fight Hi-Speed Knife Fight Third Person Knife Fight Drugged Knife Fight Vintage (Normal) Knife Fight Rock Paper Scissors NoScope with any scoped weapon (4 choices) Dodgeball Hot Potato Chicken Fight Shot4Shot with any pistol (6 choices for CS:S, 7 for CS:GO) Mag4Mag with any pistol (6 choices for CS:S, 7 for CS:GO) Gun Toss These aren't even all of them, there is 33 and the best part is there is other third party custom last requests we could install if we wanted to. This plugin contains other components such as Freekill Detection & Prevention Game Description Override Mute System with BaseComm Integration No Block Rules Command Starting Weapons Payloads for CT & T Round End Team Overlays All of these components can be disabled- even the last requests we might not want can be removed. I'm sure we could do an LR plugin a bunch of other ways, there is probably scripts out there, probably other plugins that have similar or simpler functionality but I think we should really look into adding this as I don't see a credible reason that outweighs the fun it adds to the server. Thank you for reading. How would the frekill prevention and detection work? Link to comment
Dominic Posted April 6, 2017 Content Count: 5678 Joined: 01/07/16 Status: Offline Share Posted April 6, 2017 How would the frekill prevention and detection work? I believe that's disabled and it will probably stay disabled. Link to comment
All Ts Posted April 6, 2017 Content Count: 4441 Joined: 05/28/16 Status: Offline Share Posted April 6, 2017 How would the frekill prevention and detection work? The Freekill prevention tags certain people as rebels based on them attacking CTs and if a CT kills a prisoner who isn't tagged as rebel it counts it as a Freekill. We could use it but we would have to set the Freekill number very high, but even then that comes with the risk of someone being tagged for freekilling when they really weren't. Wouldn't want the plugin to slay/kick/ban someone for no reason- hence why it is currently disabled. Link to comment
Rhyzhe Posted April 6, 2017 Content Count: 614 Joined: 08/13/16 Status: Offline Share Posted April 6, 2017 I noticed two things that are going to be a problem with this new LR system, for S4S particularly. Although other CTs can't harm the T, they can still slow him and even aim punch him. Another problem is that if he manages to get far away enough from the CT he's doing the LR with, he can just run into armory and the other CTs can't do anything. I made a recording showing these two things however server crashed near end https://youtu.be/cORaYnZg2Gc ps: i have no idea why the video is like backwards, sorry : Link to comment
Caution Posted April 6, 2017 Content Count: 11501 Joined: 10/19/08 Status: Offline Share Posted April 6, 2017 I'm gonna take a look at the plugin again and see if I can alter some of these settings to make it a more reasonable fit for our server. I have another side project going, so I'll try and look at it tonight / tomorrow morning and see what configs I can mess with. 2 Link to comment
Insidious Posted April 7, 2017 Content Count: 539 Joined: 07/14/16 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Just a quick update about the plugin: Players that win a Third-Person Knife fight stay in Third-Person after the LR is over, AND the player that wins becomes invincible and also cannot hurt any other players for the remainder of the round. Players that participate in a Low-Grav knife fight will still have the Low-Grav for the following rounds. Russian Roulette seems to spawn people in walls frequently. Mag4Mag sometimes gives full ammo. (At least for R8) The words "Rock", "Paper", and "Scissors" appeared in another language for some reason during the LR of Rock, Paper, Scissors. 1 Edited April 7, 2017 by Insidious Link to comment
All Ts Posted April 7, 2017 Content Count: 4441 Joined: 05/28/16 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just a quick update about the plugin: Players that win a Third-Person Knife fight stay in Third-Person after the LR is over, AND the player that wins becomes invincible and also cannot hurt any other players for the remainder of the round. Players that participate in a Low-Grav knife fight will still have the Low-Grav for the following rounds. Russian Roulette seems to spawn people in walls frequently. Mag4Mag sometimes gives full ammo. (At least for R8) The words "Rock", "Paper", and "Scissors" appeared in another language for some reason during the LR of Rock, Paper, Scissors. This made me laugh so fucking hard. On a more serious note the shit that's broken will be removed but as I've been saying for the past 2 days IT WOULD PROBABLY HELP IF WE WERE ON THE LATEST VERSION WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE GITHUB. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Link to comment
Caution Posted April 7, 2017 Content Count: 11501 Joined: 10/19/08 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2017 Gonna be removing this for now. We'll test out an updated version later. 6 Link to comment
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