FLuiD Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 1083 Joined: 12/23/15 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) See remember everyone got on the BRING BACK CASUAL TRAIN. Yeah remember how we said if we bring back the server we would keep it popular and shit ... Same thing is prob going to happen if we bring back bhop.. fun for a week or two then DEAD You ask for bhop and yet you say only a select few would play the reason we switched off bhop was because the population suffered for months. We have no reason to drag a server that lacks a strong population and we didn't have a strong player base that would commit to playing it on a daily basis. We introduced it back a while ago in high hopes that people would actually play it often and we'd gain a lot of newcomers, but it didn't turn out that way. I don't think we plan on bringing it back any time soon. There were a few of us like me, reid, porp, and shoie who for a good while actually came to the server nearly every day and played with each other for hours on end watching each other do maps. However I understand for the rest of the community there's a good chance it would slow down in a few weeks. BHop -> Casual -> ZRiot The thing is, while I have high hopes for ZRiot unless it starts getting a good population or at least a select few playing it I don't see why we'd rather a dead server than a server that may not have a high population but does have a good amount of SG members enjoying it. But I still have a feeling ZRiot can do well and I think it'd be fair to give it more time. This is actually a very good point. For BHop, there is at least an actual player base that even knows to search for BHop unlike ZRiot which many players aren't familiar with, especially in CSGO. The only time ZRiot has players is when a few SG regs decide to hop on for maybe an hour. However, I still have high hopes for ZRiot and it becoming more well known, I just figured this was worth pointing out no no no no no no no no no no no no, I hate bhopping and so do a lot of people who play mg, a lot of people hate Bhop when it's selected as one mini game so I couldn't imagine a whole map. It'd probably get rtved instantly or kill the population. Imo Bhop is dead and there's no point of bringing it back for awhile, sorry @Reid99 This would be an actual server rather than an additional gamemode on MG. A server might even remove some of those BHop pros who also play on MG from time to time. One last thing I would like to talk about. Just out of curiosity, for those of you who voted no, why? I cant think of any reason for this besides if people think it is going to be added to MG like Wavy did Edited May 31, 2017 by FLuiD Link to comment
frosty Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 3401 Joined: 07/25/11 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 Tbh I don't see it hurtful to give the Bhop server a second chance It's not a second chance though, we had it back in CS:S and it was the same. It's not a server that will stay populated for too long. 1 Link to comment
Punky Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 1592 Joined: 03/16/12 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 It's sort of like surf. Without a miracle it won't have many players, but it's definitely a great gamemode, just like surf, to just chill out on and beat a few maps. Honestly I wouldn't mind a bhop server, but I expect it to be somewhat as popular as surf if not less at the start. Link to comment
kabLe Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 2206 Joined: 08/30/09 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 I would support a bhop server not with the aim of turning it into some powerhouse server but for the people who like to bhop. I frequent the surf server because I like to be able to sit in a quite server do some Tier 4 maps throw on some netflix on my second monitor and just relax and try and beat all the maps. I would do the exact same thing with bhop. Full support, this should be something that should replace Zriot in my opinion. Zriot has never worked here anyway, maybe the first time we did it and it was zombie horde was the best a server like that has ever done in SG but other than that, the game mode has never been popular by any means. Link to comment
Caution Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 11501 Joined: 10/19/08 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 ^^^ Zriot never working here is an incorrect statement. We had the #1 ZRiot server in CSS (while there were dozens up) when I created it. Link to comment
kabLe Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 2206 Joined: 08/30/09 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 ^^^ Zriot never working here is an incorrect statement. We had the #1 ZRiot server in CSS (while there were dozens up) when I created it. My mistake then, however the fact still remains that currently, the average player population of that server according to GameTracker is 1 for the past month. EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ZRIOT and even when we had ZH I enjoyed it but it is undeniable that bhop is more popular and more likely to survive. If it had a player base of 4 for a month it would be more successful than what the ZRIOT server has done in the past month. Link to comment
Gator Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 2669 Joined: 03/29/09 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 My mistake then, however the fact still remains that currently, the average player population of that server according to GameTracker is 1 for the past month. EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ZRIOT and even when we had ZH I enjoyed it but it is undeniable that bhop is more popular and more likely to survive. If it had a player base of 4 for a month it would be more successful than what the ZRIOT server has done in the past month. The same could be said for bhop near the end of it's run. I don't think I ever saw anyone playing it. We can't be making servers for a select few just for them to die. The same argue for Gmod TTT applies here. We need servers that are popular gamemodes among the entire game's population. Having special gamemodes that have little playerbase in the game will quickly die and not attract any new players to our servers. Link to comment
kabLe Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 2206 Joined: 08/30/09 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 The same could be said for bhop near the end of it's run. I don't think I ever saw anyone playing it. We can't be making servers for a select few just for them to die. The same argue for Gmod TTT applies here. We need servers that are popular gamemodes among the entire game's population. Having special gamemodes that have little playerbase in the game will quickly die and not attract any new players to our servers. That is a fair point however I do think it is still fair to say that bhop is an all around more popular game mode and has a better chance of attracting people to it than zriot has proven to be. In an ideal world, I would like to see a zriot and bhop server flourish but I don't think that will happen. If it isn't bhop we should put our heads together and think of a unique game mode that will attract people and keep its own stable population of regulars. Link to comment
All Ts Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 4441 Joined: 05/28/16 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 Played BHOP almost daily even though I was bad, was fun to just listen to music & chill after school or when we were doing nothing but talking on TS. Would do exactly the same if it were readded. I see why it was removed though, the population was shit however we have servers that mirror that level of shitness if not worse now. 2 Link to comment
FLuiD Posted May 31, 2017 Content Count: 1083 Joined: 12/23/15 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2017 Played BHOP almost daily even though I was bad, was fun to just listen to music & chill after school or when we were doing nothing but talking on TS. Would do exactly the same if it were readded. I see why it was removed though, the population was shit however we have servers that mirror that level of shitness if not worse now. pretty much exactly this ^ Link to comment
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