LR

[All Ts]

I wasn't able to make a full post on this earlier, will post my entire thoughts with some examples, links and the whole nine yards.

 

My thoughts on this:

I think we shouldn't have to get detailed with it either, I think it should just be considered cheating (which is already is in the FAQ & allows the cheating party to be killed) so people don't have to state "no medic" every single time. In the very first place it's sad that we have to get super detailed but the way our regulars are (OP himself as an example for making this thread) they will loophole our rules and FAQ so closing them or clarifying x,y,z isn't allowed is necessary to keep the server fun.

 

The reason we have "no detours or delays" as implied on PB is cause it's something people would likely say every single round, it's just ingrained in the gamemode. You contrast this to something like S4S, Noscope, etc.. with going to medic- making people say the same shit over and over again to avoid them cheating what is a pretty straight forward LR is why we need to just classify it as cheating. Another example of this already being on our server in terms of the cheating in FAQ is this thread.

 

I implore anyone who thinks our rules and FAQ are bad/getting confusing to go look at some of the other popular communities to compare/contrast. Some of them are far worse, some of them are better in certain areas due to their server being largely dictated by plugins rather than with rules. For CT's I'd go as far to say that we should make cheating against the rules (slayable), for Ts I think it's perfectly fine as they would just be rebelling.

 

In the rules here are 3 written examples of Popular LR's.

 

Shot for shot (s4s) - Prisoner and CT take turns firing 1 pistol shot at each other from a distance until someone dies.

Knife fight (kf) - Prisoner and CT go 1v1 using knives only until someone dies.

Gun toss (gt) - Prisoner throws a weapon as far as possible off a ledge, CT tries to beat their marker, winner gets to kill the loser.

 

It doesn't say S4S means go heal in medic, whip out your gun during a knife-fight, or run & drop your gun past your opponents because they're things that would be considered cheating by a reasonable person who wasn't trying to loophole our rules.

 

My Solution:

 

Within the FAQ add a question that says.

 

Q- What is Cheating?

 

A- Cheating is going against the agreed upon rules of a last request or doing something that completely goes against the original LR's purpose.

 

EX. Healing during a S4S, Shooting during a Knife Fight, or simply dropping your gun past your opponents during Gun Toss.

 

Cheating during an LR as a Prisoner is considered rebelling, as a CT it is not allowed and punishable.

 

 

OPTIONAL: remove FAQ question that says "Can I be killed for cheating in a last request?"

 

Within the Rules add on the forums, and in-game.

 

Cheating during LRs

 

Cheating is going against the agreed upon rules of a last request or doing something that completely goes against the original LR's purpose (examples in the FAQ). Cheating during an LR as a Prisoner is considered rebelling, as a CT it is not allowed and punishable.

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I wasn't able to make a full post on this earlier, will post my entire thoughts with some examples, links and the whole nine yards.

 

My thoughts on this:

I think we shouldn't have to get detailed with it either, I think it should just be considered cheating (which is already is in the FAQ & allows the cheating party to be killed) so people don't have to state "no medic" every single time. In the very first place it's sad that we have to get super detailed but the way our regulars are (OP himself as an example for making this thread) they will loophole our rules and FAQ so closing them or clarifying x,y,z isn't allowed is necessary to keep the server fun.

 

The reason we have "no detours or delays" as implied on PB is cause it's something people would likely say every single round, it's just ingrained in the gamemode. You contrast this to something like S4S, Noscope, etc.. with going to medic- making people say the same shit over and over again to avoid them cheating what is a pretty straight forward LR is why we need to just classify it as cheating. Another example of this already being on our server in terms of the cheating in FAQ is this thread.

 

I implore anyone who thinks our rules and FAQ are bad/getting confusing to go look at some of the other popular communities to compare/contrast. Some of them are far worse, some of them are better in certain areas due to their server being largely dictated by plugins rather than with rules. For CT's I'd go as far to say that we should make cheating against the rules (slayable), for Ts I think it's perfectly fine as they would just be rebelling.

 

In the rules here are 3 written examples of Popular LR's.

 

 

 

It doesn't say S4S means go heal in medic, whip out your gun during a knife-fight, or run & drop your gun past your opponents because they're things that would be considered cheating by a reasonable person who wasn't trying to loophole our rules.

 

My Solution:

 

Within the FAQ add a question that says.

 

 

 

OPTIONAL: remove FAQ question that says "Can I be killed for cheating in a last request?"

 

Within the Rules add on the forums, and in-game.

 

Added more to the FAQ to clear this up.