Should we change this rule? 16 members have voted

[Reece]

I would like to edit the rule about claiming rooms, as it has been causing a lot of trouble and confusion lately.

 

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As of right now, the rule stands that if you are in danger, you can claim a room. From the past few weeks, regulars have been abusing and wrongfully using this rule, and while I don't agree that we should necessarily get rid of it altogether, I think we should change it.

 

The easiest way to fix this rule is changing it to "You can only claim a room if no one responds to your alive check". Instead of being able to claim a room when you are being shot at, it's often easier to just run and/or fight back, I don't think claiming a room is totally necessary as the cons outbalance the pros. Changing this rule around will help eliminate a lot of RDM's and will keep the server a little less toxic as well. If any admins have been paying attention to the !calladmin bot, there are plenty of reports for wrongfully claiming a room and I think this will solve the issue.

 

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[beanie dog]

100% Yes for this

[eXtr3m3]

Back during Garry's Mod TTT, we didn't allow players to claim a room for good reason. I am in favor of this because it is not always easy to describe what room you are in to people. It may be easier for those who are right next to you, as they are most likely able to see what room you are referring to, but it is difficult for players across the map.

 

Just my two cents.

[All Ts]

I find the wording in the FAQ incredibly careless and subjective. Agree with this change but I believe it will just make Traitors respond to alive checks more often, and possibly force Innocents into feeling obligated to respond. I believe a full on removal of claiming rooms would be good.

[DancingMoonLight]

I'm 100% for this, it would make life much easier for everyone. Too often does an incident occur that could have been avoidable if the rule made more sense, and wasn't so open to public discretion. It needs to be more specific or changed entirely in my opinion.

 

P.S. Also clear up the whole 'claim at 2 minutes'

[Metal]

Back during Garry's Mod TTT, we didn't allow players to claim a room for good reason. I am in favor of this because it is not always easy to describe what room you are in to people. It may be easier for those who are right next to you, as they are most likely able to see what room you are referring to, but it is difficult for players across the map.

 

Just my two cents.

 

Only way I could see this still be a thing is if you are being followed by someone and you go into a room.

Lets say you are following me after I killed a T or I'm just getting followed by you for whatever reason, I go inside a room and say;

"Extreme, Do not come in here"

 

If you come in and I kill you, that should not be an rdm since you were given a warning.

 

There have been many times I will call alive check and I hear no one reply.

If they walk into a room I kill them; I know Im not the only one that does this.

 

I do not think we should remove claiming rooms completely as in some cases does help people survive firefights and to stay alive from being chased.

Its still an element of TTT that should be a thing but we need to make it more concrete and how Innos and do it correctly.

[Reece]

Only way I could see this still be a thing is if you are being followed by someone and you go into a room.

Lets say you are following me after I killed a T or I'm just getting followed by you for whatever reason, I go inside a room and say;

"Extreme, Do not come in here"

 

If you come in and I kill you, that should not be an rdm since you were given a warning.

 

We have a rule for this already, if you give them 3 warnings and they continue to follow you, then you are allowed to kill them. No reason to make that rule obsolete in order to keep claiming rooms in TTT.

[Metal]

We have a rule for this already, if you give them 3 warnings and they continue to follow you, then you are allowed to kill them. No reason to make that rule obsolete in order to keep claiming rooms in TTT.

 

I get you on that, but what i mean is it can lead into either warnings or if a room is nearby you have that to your advantage to get out of danger.

[angelo]

P.S. Also clear up the whole 'claim at 2 minutes'

 

So I haven't been able to play TTT much (or anything CS related) lately cause of a bad internet connection problem. So basically, I have had problems with a lot of randoms/regs getting confused with the "rule" that came out nowhere and that regs tried to enforce without it even being in !rules.. Having the ability to claim at 2 minutes.. This is something that NEEDS to be put in rules or FAQ as not a thing.

 

1. Do Innocents have the ability to claim rooms after the timer hits 2 minutes?

 

2. NO. This does not exist and should not be used or enforced as an actual rule.

 

Just elaborating on what @DancingMoonlight said. xd

[Bernard.]

I completely agree with @Reece, many players say they claim a room with bullshit reasons. "In danger" is not clear enough, since "in danger" is too general. It would definitely eliminate RDM's since if people don't respond to live checks, they're probably going with the element of surprise to win their round, as a T since I don't see any reasoning behind ignoring a live check as an innocent and detective. That way, claiming the room would be a more reasonable thing to do since people did not respond to a live check. Thanks for the suggestion, Reece!