Retakes Suggestions

[McBride]

Then how does it work?

 

Hey guys just put together a simple plugin made for retake servers or anything similar.

Counter-Terrorists have the ability to instantly defuse the bomb if:

 

No Terrorists are alive.

There is a sufficient amount of time remaining (depending if the defuser has a kit or not).

If there are no active Molotov's that could damage the defuser

 

 

basically you have no T players alive, you find the bomb and start defusing with a kit, if you have enough time to defuse say bomb time is 10 seconds it insta defuses instead of making you wait the 5 seconds. if the bomb has 3 seconds left and you start defusing the bomb is going to blow.

[Bernard.]

Agree with the instant defuse since it's only if there's sufficient amount of time.

 

Disagree with the second one as it doesn't say whether you have a choice to auto plant or not (which it makes sense that it wouldnt) but what if you wanna move the bomb spot or switch sites?

 

yea, you can't really switch sites since they give you about 10 seconds after the freeze time to plant... thats not enough time to rotate... i do agree with the other plant spots, your teammates could be put long and you have a default plant at dust2 a site, you might want to switch the position of the bomb

[Bernard.]

is there also a plugin like the wingman games, where some parts could be barricaded to prevent griefing? this might not be a high possibility in SG retakes, but ive seen many people on other retake servers go to the wrong site, and lose the round which is very annoying if you're waiting to play, and other people are screwing it up for you.

[Nemesis]

These plugins do seem nice , I really don't care about choosing where to plant because retakes simply isnt about that.

 

Also the nade setups are fucking garbage on the retakes map

[All Ts]

;915404]is there also a plugin like the wingman games, where some parts could be barricaded to prevent griefing? this might not be a high possibility in SG retakes, but ive seen many people on other retake servers go to the wrong site, and lose the round which is very annoying if you're waiting to play, and other people are screwing it up for you.

 

I'll take a look and see if I can find the plugin that does this, as I've also seen it and on certain maps it can be pretty useful.

[kabLe]

The whole point of retakes is to simulate and practice real in game scenarios. Insta plant takes away the ability to choose where you plant which does heavily affect how you would play a retake.

 

On inferno, if it is planted on the step when you run in from truck side I’m looking for a guy in apartments or in pit or graveyard. If it is planted in the site itself now there is a better chance that someone is crouched hiding in site. Being able to see and recognize these little things is what makes a player better.

 

IMO it’s better to just leave it without the insta plant otherwise your turning it from an effective retake server to a custom mod and people aren’t joining retake servers to lay back and have fun.

[Nemesis]

The whole point of retakes is to simulate and practice real in game scenarios. Insta plant takes away the ability to choose where you plant which does heavily affect how you would play a retake.

 

On inferno, if it is planted on the step when you run in from truck side I’m looking for a guy in apartments or in pit or graveyard. If it is planted in the site itself now there is a better chance that someone is crouched hiding in site. Being able to see and recognize these little things is what makes a player better.

 

IMO it’s better to just leave it without the insta plant otherwise your turning it from an effective retake server to a custom mod and people aren’t joining retake servers to lay back and have fun.

 

I feel your argument works better in favor of the instaplant mod. The retakes plugin spawns the bomb carrier in a default bomb plant spot.

It's a skill to recognise where your plant is and to play around it instead of planting in some random spot that doesn't reflect actual gameplay.

These default spots are default for a reason , namely cover and angles of fire.

[Dominic]

I feel your argument works better in favor of the instaplant mod. The retakes plugin spawns the bomb carrier in a default bomb plant spot.

It's a skill to recognise where your plant is and to play around it instead of planting in some random spot that doesn't reflect actual gameplay.

These default spots are default for a reason , namely cover and angles of fire.

 

There's more than one spot that reflects actual gameplay. Plenty of spots on sites to sit and I'd usually plant the bomb according to where I plan to sit.

 

The plugin says nothing about switching the spots it plants at, and I highly doubt it does that. Don't think it's right to have it plant in the same spot all the time, that just gets repetitive and boring.

[Black Rain]

Fine with auto-defuse one. The only downside is that it takes away the suspense of knowing will you get the defuse or not in super close scenarios. Doubt anyone cares for that shit though lol

 

I wouldn't be in favor of adding the second one. It definitely takes away the ability to control where you want to plant. If you play retakes in any community, people will plant in the spot they spawn on, but many times people will change up the bomb plant spots to cater to the teammates' map control on their spawn. An example is on Dust 2 A site: you can spawn at default but some people will like to plant for A long since player in pit can use it to his benefit for peeking against a defuse. I really prefer not to take away this from people since it can also teach people how to play for bomb based on planted spots.

 

 

@Nimmy @shoiep

[All Ts]

Fine with auto-defuse one. The only downside is that it takes away the suspense of knowing will you get the defuse or not in super close scenarios. Doubt anyone cares for that shit though lol

 

I wouldn't be in favor of adding the second one. It definitely takes away the ability to control where you want to plant. If you play retakes in any community, people will plant in the spot they spawn on, but many times people will change up the bomb plant spots to cater to the teammates' map control on their spawn. An example is on Dust 2 A site: you can spawn at default but some people will like to plant for A long since player in pit can use it to his benefit for peeking against a defuse. I really prefer not to take away this from people since it can also teach people how to play for bomb based on planted spots.

 

 

@Nimmy @shoiep

 

Sounds good to me.

 

If the server continues to not do great, and we get more feedback in the future we can always revisit. Would suggest testing the auto-defuse one very closely cause on the AlliedModders thread there was a small amount of time where the plugin would fuck up, I think it's fixed but just to make sure. If you add it on and need help testing it (or any of the other managers) let me know and I'll come help test it.