TTT - Clarifying Traitor Weapons

[Reece]

Came into multiple situations that leads me to believe this needs to be addressed somewhere in FAQ.

 

 

This picture shows the only portion where !faq talks about traitor weapons. I find the rule is rather vague, and from playing on the servers, I think this can be broken down a bit better.

 

A great way to elucidate this, is to implement a portion saying "The M4A1-S and the AWP are not KOS as long as the person who picks them announces in chat or in voice chat that he/she has picked up the item" somewhere in !faq. Many players are being killed instantly if they have a T weapon, and I don't find it fair to the players, especially because of the wording of the rule. This also goes alongside the "claiming rooms" rule with the subjective wording and I don't see a reason to keep the regulars in confusion.

[All Ts]

I don't see a reason to differentiate text chat from voice chat as it makes it longer. Other than that tiny thing I think it's a good idea to add this at the very least to test it out.

[GG EZ]

Came into multiple situations that leads me to believe this needs to be addressed somewhere in FAQ.

 

 

This picture shows the only portion where !faq talks about traitor weapons. I find the rule is rather vague, and from playing on the servers, I think this can be broken down a bit better.

 

A great way to elucidate this, is to implement a portion saying "The M4A1-S and the AWP are not KOS as long as the person who picks them announces in chat or in voice chat that he/she has picked up the item" somewhere in !faq. Many players are being killed instantly if they have a T weapon, and I don't find it fair to the players, especially because of the wording of the rule. This also goes alongside the "claiming rooms" rule with the subjective wording and I don't see a reason to keep the regulars in confusion.

 

we should change it to where you would have to announce or show to another person that it is not ur awp and for m4a1s you would just have to show to other players that it is the detectives since i had multiple instances where at the start of the rounds detective would randomly drop the m4a1s and i would would pick it up because i dont have a primary and i would instantly get penetrated right to the head with a bullet because someone saw me with a m4a1s

[MaR 1]

generally, people kill everyone they see with a awp and put high sus in people with a m4a1s. But sometime there a lot of people that kill you only because you got a m4a1s .Your allow to have a awp only if you say from who you got it but for them you dont need to call from who you got the m4a1s.It very vague i think they should do something to make thing clear.

[tides]

I'm a bit late but I just found this thread. Reece makes a good point and I would love to see that added into the FAQ.

 

However, i'm posting about the m4a1-s portion of this rule. Mar and Takito both already pointed this out but it hasn't been answered recently as far as I can see.

 

You stated that if you don't announce that you have picked up an AWP or an M4a1-s then this could be KOS. This being true, do the same rules that apply to the AWP apply to the M4? Do you have to say whose weapon it is?

-e.g., "I have Player 1's AWP" vs. I picked up a detectives M4

If asked to drop the weapon to check the same, do you have to drop it?

etc.

 

A reply answering this or linking me to a different thread would be much appreciated!

[Rhyzhe]

I'm a bit late but I just found this thread. Reece makes a good point and I would love to see that added into the FAQ.

 

However, i'm posting about the m4a1-s portion of this rule. Mar and Takito both already pointed this out but it hasn't been answered recently as far as I can see.

 

You stated that if you don't announce that you have picked up an AWP or an M4a1-s then this could be KOS. This being true, do the same rules that apply to the AWP apply to the M4? Do you have to say whose weapon it is?

-e.g., "I have Player 1's AWP" vs. I picked up a detectives M4

If asked to drop the weapon to check the same, do you have to drop it?

etc.

 

A reply answering this or linking me to a different thread would be much appreciated!

 

The way I've played over the years is killing those with T weapons like the AWP (Only when they do not announce it) because ONLY a T is able to purchase it, however the M4 would not be kos as it is a weapon that can be obtained by the detective as well. I also do not think that you would be forced to drop a weapon if asked to drop it considering that this would allow players to have a major advantage over those carrying an awp or m4 as they can make them drop their weapon leaving them defenseless.

[tides]

Awesome, can't wait to see this in the FAQ.

 

I think I might have thought up a new strat.. >;)

[Snootch]

The way I've played over the years is killing those with T weapons like the AWP (Only when they do not announce it) because ONLY a T is able to purchase it, however the M4 would not be kos as it is a weapon that can be obtained by the detective as well. I also do not think that you would be forced to drop a weapon if asked to drop it considering that this would allow players to have a major advantage over those carrying an awp or m4 as they can make them drop their weapon leaving them defenseless.

 

This is exactly how I go about it, though I don't force someone to drop it. If they refuse, it just makes them highly suspicious, because the last thing I would want to do is leave a fellow inno defenseless by making them drop their gun. I'm a bit more lenient when it comes to the M4A1-S mainly due to the fact that some Detectives prefer a different gun and just drop it all the time, but it still doesn't mean I won't ask if I feel the need to.

[All Ts]

@Gator @Mad Dogg

[Gator]

I've updated the FAQ to say

FAQ: How do I know if someone is a Traitor

 

If they have a traitor weapon. This is not always reliable though.

 

and included a category below saying

 

FAQ: What are traitor weapons?

 

Traitor weapons are weapons purchased from the Traitor menu.

 

The AWP is not KOS as long as the person who picks them announces that he/she has picked up the item.

 

The M4A1-S is also not KOS as it is commonly dropped by detectives in favor of other weapons, however, it is still suspicious if they do not announce picking it up.

 

Let me know if this works or if it needs further revision.