SG Casual Server

[Karma]

Instead of making it a casual server I feel we should make it a battle royal server instead cause games like pubg are getting extremely popular. The gamemode would be vastly differnt and would probably expand our reach to players that may have not heard of sg before or has been looking for a return to sg.This may also attract players who have a low end pc who can’t run pubg and can run csgo and they might want to play pubg but they cant. And plus we haven’t tried to have a battle royal server yet so it wouldn’t hurt to try it out for a few days or just test it out before the hype of battle royal games die out.

 

I don't think Cs-GO is right for that. There are many other battle royal servers that are never populated. Also to do something like this, we would need the server to be populated with many people at the same time. At one point I thought of this so I did a bit of research on what goes into creating and maintaining a game mode as such. There are a lot of things that go into creating this, and like I had said before takes a pretty big player base. Though saying this if we could pull something like this off it could work, as there are a lot of people with lower end pc's that can't run games like Pubg and Fortnite.

[Wawa]

I mean I'm not going to keep pressing the issue if you honestly feel it won't come back to it's former glory and a simple no will absolutely suffice.

 

That's not what I'm trying to imply. I would love to bring back Casual, keep it around, and see it do well for this community beyond the short run. Given its history, confidence for the prediction of that is low, but that doesn't make future success impossible. Hence my bold/underlined text; if you have insight on a niche in the CSGO community that could spell success with bringing back Casual again this time around, I'm interested in listening/reading it. You've already voiced some legit observations from your own recent experiences, any more insight is definitely encouraged.

[Black Rain]

Instead of making it a casual server I feel we should make it a battle royal server instead cause games like pubg are getting extremely popular. The gamemode would be vastly differnt and would probably expand our reach to players that may have not heard of sg before or has been looking for a return to sg.This may also attract players who have a low end pc who can’t run pubg and can run csgo and they might want to play pubg but they cant. And plus we haven’t tried to have a battle royal server yet so it wouldn’t hurt to try it out for a few days or just test it out before the hype of battle royal games die out.

 

We used to have a Battle Royale server ran by Paul a long time ago. It was very popular for some time and then it eventually died a few months later because the hype around it died. Battle Royale maps are on MG right now.

 

Now for a BR like PUBG then it's more difficult. Go 4 The Kill has succeeded in making a working PUBG mode for CS:GO, however, it's a private plugin. Someone would have to make the plugin from scratch and we don't really have anyone to do that at the moment if the idea was even considered. It took Go 4 TK coders 6+ months to finally announce a stable version. They started in August and recently announced a better update to play on. However, they even struggle to get a population. Back in November they had to take down the NA servers because they reported that not enough players were actively playing on them, so they had no incentive to continue paying for them. EU servers still exist but even I don't know how well they're doing since I haven't tried it yet.

 

So it's a pretty hard idea to try imo.

[Dominic]

Casual has been around twice and it has died out both times, the second time quicker than the first. Nothing drastic has changed that will bring about different results and nothing drastic to change has been brought up here that I think will change things.

 

However, I think Battle Royale is a pretty good idea at the moment. I feel the amount of people that enjoy Retakes and Scrim at SG has risen, and I think BR will produce similar results to those servers. Casual honestly probably won't appeal to the competitive players here. Granted Retakes hasn't been doing that well, BR is worth giving a try imo.

[All Ts]

I think at the moment working with what we have and not spreading our staff even is something we should be making sure is done. Adding any new servers atleast in my opinion, for the next month- is a bad idea. Lets let our servers populations level off, put some work in and gain staff before we start trying to expand any further. Anyway, not saying I'm against Casual as an idea for the future, but I think SG has reached it limits more or less currently.

[roux]

I don't think Cs-GO is right for that. There are many other battle royal servers that are never populated. Also to do something like this, we would need the server to be populated with many people at the same time. At one point I thought of this so I did a bit of research on what goes into creating and maintaining a game mode as such. There are a lot of things that go into creating this, and like I had said before takes a pretty big player base. Though saying this if we could pull something like this off it could work, as there are a lot of people with lower end pc's that can't run games like Pubg and Fortnite.

 

A new plugin has been made tho. A guy made go4thekil which is pretty popular in EU right now.

 

However it would be impossible to run servers with a constant population on them, like you said.

[Snootch]

That's not what I'm trying to imply. I would love to bring back Casual, keep it around, and see it do well for this community beyond the short run. Given its history, confidence for the prediction of that is low, but that doesn't make future success impossible. Hence my bold/underlined text; if you have insight on a niche in the CSGO community that could spell success with bringing back Casual again this time around, I'm interested in listening/reading it. You've already voiced some legit observations from your own recent experiences, any more insight is definitely encouraged.

 

The only problem I see is getting the player base back. Other than going around advertising a moderated casual server, which to me sounds like a spammy douche thing to do. As to what we could do that would make it stand out from the others, I'm willing to brainstorm and try to think of some things.

 

Casual has been around twice and it has died out both times, the second time quicker than the first. Nothing drastic has changed that will bring about different results and nothing drastic to change has been brought up here that I think will change things.

 

 

The fact that it died out the second time I'm assuming is that when it was taken down the first time, the normal players that were there went onto different servers. I'm not sure what you expected when it was taken down the first time and then brought back after everyone found different servers to play on. If you can provide a valid reason as to why it shouldn't come back, I'm all ears. I actually see MadHatter and Magic in the normal MM casual sometimes and I'm sure they would be more than happy to come back. Considering there's not a lot of room to work with when it comes to making the server spectacular without hurting the game play. I know a lot of servers let people bunny hop and all that garbage, but that's honestly not fun at all. It's more annoying to deal with someone cruising along with auto hop.

 

However, I think Battle Royale is a pretty good idea at the moment. I feel the amount of people that enjoy Retakes and Scrim at SG has risen, and I think BR will produce similar results to those servers. Casual honestly probably won't appeal to the competitive players here. Granted Retakes hasn't been doing that well, BR is worth giving a try imo.

 

I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't appeal, as Scrim is only used in the off hours and when people gather up and decide to actually get on. Retake is boring imho and the last time I tried to play Retake i couldn't even join a team.. As for BR, like I had mentioned before it's not a very good game mode. It has a lot of potential, but in it's current state you are better off just playing whatever clone of Arma BR you find most enjoyable.

[Wawa]

Before I look like a rogue BD who is making a brash, rushed decision to act on instinct in bringing back Casual, I have talked to @Black Rain about this before replacing Retakes.

 

The reason why I brought back Casual is because in its current state in contrast to the state of Valve servers in general, I believe it has a chance to grow it's own unique, organic player base without the need of community intervention. It's a slim chance yes, but the odds are much better than Retakes--a server that competes with dozens of other retakes servers that advertise the weapon skins plugin--and has only populated itself when SG members join in numbers. Yes, we don't want to spread ourselves out so that we can't give our playing time to other servers like ZE, and we won't have to with Casual.

 

Why not switch to BR instead? BR is not out of the question, nothing ever is and should be when a community wants to expand. In its current state though, it only looks like a fad to compete with PUBG, just like Hunger Games mod. However, I think there are developers working on a PUBG-like mod right now, so I think it's worth waiting to see what unfolds here before rushing a potentially good decision.

[kabLe]

I?t would probably be advantageous to limit awps for the Casual server. Nobody likes to play casual and having 8 people awping

[eXtr3m3]

You better be on your damn server 24/7 @Casual