Moe Lester Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 56 Joined: 12/26/17 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 I don't know if we already had a discord but I could only find a team speak server. If we do have a discord please respond with the invite link. If not than we should create one to expand our community. 2 Link to comment
roux Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 2579 Joined: 02/27/16 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) https://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=70027 https://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=76124 SG doesn't have an official discord and won't be switching to it either. We'll be on teamspeak EDIT: Oh well we're discussing it I guess I feel like discord is better for small groups. I don't know the extend of the customization on Discord. I like the quality of Discord a little more, but I feel that it is less community friendly than TS. It's perfect for a bunch of 10-15 friends or a mmo clan. I don't have a strong opinion about getting one or not, as I feel it is kinda the same in the end, but if we had to ever get one ourselves, I'd hop on discord and not on TS. Edited December 26, 2017 by roux Link to comment
Liam Brown Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 829 Joined: 02/28/09 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 I don't have a mic and don't use TeamSpeak or Discord much at all, so I don't really have any strong opinions about either one. As an outside observer though it does seem to me that Discord is pretty much expected by people nowadays, and I think just outright rejecting the idea based on what others have posted months or years ago is a bit lazy to be honest. It's use among gaming communities is only getting bigger and the requests that we start using aren't going to stop. We obviously shouldn't only base our decisions on what's popular right at this moment, but it's pretty clear TeamSpeak is going the way of Ventrilo. I'm really not sure how well this argument that we absolutely require the control or features of TS holds up, there are many communities that are far larger than us that use Discord as their main voice chat app, and I think we're at risk of getting left behind in this area and maybe pushing people away from our community because of a stubbornness to change. I'm probably not the best person to make this argument, but this is just my personal opinion anyway. 16 Link to comment
Reece Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 305 Joined: 06/15/17 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 I agree with Liam; however, I would be a bit skeptical because of the difference of chat from Teamspeak and Discord. I think this is one of the only ways the two are different. With teamspeak each channel has it's own text channel, and that's the only channel you can talk in for the time being unless you decide to swap. With Discord, you can talk in any text channel without being in that servers matching voice channel. 1 Link to comment
All Ts Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 4441 Joined: 05/28/16 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) I don't prefer Discord to TeamSpeak for various reasons technical reasons (IP bans, permissions, reliability) but I do however know that the CS:GO generation of kids we're at right now see TeamSpeak as a clunky dinosaur age software. In the past year or so Discord has got increasingly more popular, and it's not really showing signs of stopping. Among SG lots of little friend groups create their own Discord's as a little friend hub, which to me is most of the time obnoxious, but atleast we know that lots of our community uses it. I think our main target audience for getting a Discord is the kids who have Discord downloaded, but not TeamSpeak. Everytime someone on Jailbreak asks for our VOIP they always ask for Discord- not teamspeak, and many of these times I give them the TeamSpeak IP address they literally ask "why not discord". I could see people saying it would steal players off of TeamSpeak to Discord but in complete honesty from what I've seen on our servers it's hurting our community more by not having it. A bunch of the other major communities have both Discord and TeamSpeak. I support getting a Discord server. 4 Edited December 26, 2017 by All Ts specifics Link to comment
delirium Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 5382 Joined: 03/10/09 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 I don't prefer Discord to TeamSpeak for various reasons technical reasons (IP bans, permissions, reliability) but I do however know that the CS:GO generation of kids we're at right now see TeamSpeak as a clunky dinosaur age software. In the past year or so Discord has got increasingly more popular, and it's not really showing signs of stopping. Among SG lots of little friend groups create their own Discord's as a little friend hub, which to me is most of the time obnoxious, but atleast we know that lots of our community uses it. I think our main target audience for getting a Discord is the kids who have Discord downloaded, but not TeamSpeak. Everytime someone on Jailbreak asks for our VOIP they always ask for Discord- not teamspeak, and many of these times I give them the TeamSpeak IP address they literally ask "why not discord". I could see people saying it would steal players off of TeamSpeak to Discord but in complete honesty from what I've seen on our servers it's hurting our community more by not having it. A bunch of the other major communities have both Discord and TeamSpeak. I support getting a Discord server. Discord does IP ban when you ban someone. the permissions are not as customizable as teamspeak but would probably be enough for what we need and the only worry with reliablity we would have is if discord goes belly-up and the servers go down. I'm in full support of at least trying to make a SG Discord possible (seeing if we can do similar things with permissions basically) I've personally made this suggestion before and am 100% on board. 2 Link to comment
Snootch Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 150 Joined: 01/03/16 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 If there is a switch to Discord, I personally will never use it. To be fair, I prefer Mumble over TS as well, simply due to privacy reasons as nothing is ever logged and seen by anyone else other than who is chatting with us. For awhile there, there were bots going to public discords spamming child pornography and with a service that easily allows you to spam pictures in the public chats, I don't honestly recommend it and could see toxic players getting out of hand, which would require a lot more moderation not only on the servers but on the discord as well. Honestly I think TS is only useful if you feel like paying for the slots and have a large enough community to support it, otherwise Mumble has always been the better choice just for it's simplicity and free use. Link to comment
delirium Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 5382 Joined: 03/10/09 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 If there is a switch to Discord, I personally will never use it. To be fair, I prefer Mumble over TS as well, simply due to privacy reasons as nothing is ever logged and seen by anyone else other than who is chatting with us. For awhile there, there were bots going to public discords spamming child pornography and with a service that easily allows you to spam pictures in the public chats, I don't honestly recommend it and could see toxic players getting out of hand, which would require a lot more moderation not only on the servers but on the discord as well. Honestly I think TS is only useful if you feel like paying for the slots and have a large enough community to support it, otherwise Mumble has always been the better choice just for it's simplicity and free use. This is a permissions issue that is easily fixed by requiring your users to have a role before participating in your server (similar to how we currently have our Teamspeak set up) 1 Link to comment
All Ts Posted December 26, 2017 Content Count: 4441 Joined: 05/28/16 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2017 Discord does IP ban when you ban someone. the permissions are not as customizable as teamspeak but would probably be enough for what we need and the only worry with reliablity we would have is if discord goes belly-up and the servers go down. I'm in full support of at least trying to make a SG Discord possible (seeing if we can do similar things with permissions basically) I've personally made this suggestion before and am 100% on board. I was speaking for being able to see the IP and carry it over. As for both the other things you got my point. Back in I think June Discord was really unreliable a bunch of their servers went down and it was generally annoying to use. The permissions aren't a big deal, it's just worse than TS. 1 Link to comment
Wawa Posted January 3, 2018 Content Count: 3740 Joined: 05/21/12 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2018 We are currently looking into Discord, there is no eta at this time regarding what we're going to decide to do with it. 2 Link to comment
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