Four Corners Killing in water

[Snootch]

So apparently, people are under the assumption that you can kill a T that falls into the water of four corners on summer jail. This is infact a freekill, the vent is there for a reason so if they want to rebel they have the option. Otherwise the water will kill them. Can we get clarification on this in the actual rules to stop this unnecessary freekilling.

[UkrainianCheekiBreeki]

https://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=79120

[Snootch]

https://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=79120

 

That's only Dominics opinion. The vent is there for them to either Rebel which then in turn makes them KoS or not and let the water kill them. The fact that people are getting shot in the water is blatant freekill and kill whoring. They are not rebelling by being in the water, that forum thread doesn't answer anything.

 

Edit: From that thread Dominic states that it is his opinion that you can kill them because they could "potentially rebel". If that were the case, you might as well spray everyone down at the start of the round for having the option to "potentially rebel". It's already bad enough that CT's will intentionally delay the round with one or two orders just to keep the T's from having the chance.

[Wawa]

That's only Dominics opinion.

 

Solid point, this thread is now validated to continue further.

[All Ts]

What?

 

Dominic didn't say that cause they "potentially rebel", he said it cause they are either killed by the water or can go through the vent which is by the rules automatically KOS. I kill if people fall in the water the same way cause I've had many times people drop into the vent before I can get an angle & kill them. This thread is ridiculous and does not make an ounce of sense.

[Chloe Gallagher]

Unless you see them enter the vent, you shouldn't be killing them. Doesn't matter if they're gonna die or not

[Snootch]

What?

 

Dominic didn't say that cause they "potentially rebel", he said it cause they are either killed by the water or can go through the vent which is by the rules automatically KOS. I kill if people fall in the water the same way cause I've had many times people drop into the vent before I can get an angle & kill them. This thread is ridiculous and does not make an ounce of sense.

 

Should probably re-read his post then, because that's exactly how he puts it. You are not allowing the T's to fully utilize the map as intended and instead are killing them just because they fell into the water. As to your statement about them escaping in the vent, that's the point of the vent. I'm still not seeing any valid indication as to why you are killing them for dropping into the water.

 

Edit:

The only way out of there is through a vent, so I don't see any reason for letting them survive and potentially rebel.

 

Just my opinion though, rules could say different.

 

This thread is ridiculous and does not make an ounce of sense

 

I'm trying to find words for this statement.. because my initial post makes perfect sense. You are killing someone who is NOT KoS because they could rebel not that they ARE rebelling. Basically all I see is people admitting to mass free kill because they didn't want to give them a chance to actually rebel. On top of that, what real disadvantage are you at if they do go into the vent? The Water damaged them severely depending on how fast they got into the vent so just have a CT watch medic and pool. You already have a huge advantage over the T's I don't even know why this needs to be discussed any further.

[Dominic]

I said I see no point in letting them potentially rebel because their only potential is to rebel. They have no other options, to compare that to killing Ts at the start of the round is pretty dumb imo because Ts have plenty of potential to do other things.

 

There's literally zero reason to allow them to survive until the water kills them.

[Jake]

You are killing someone who is NOT KoS because they could rebel not that they ARE rebelling.

 

They are in fact KOS, its a death game and they lost the game when they fall.

 

basically all I see is people admitting to mass free kill because they didn't want to give them a chance to actually rebel.

 

Ts don't have a right to rebel and live on after they lost the game, I'm not sure where you're getting at with saying they aren't getting a chance to rebel.

 

On top of that, what real disadvantage are you at if they do go into the vent? The Water damaged them severely depending on how fast they got into the vent so just have a CT watch medic and pool.

 

Are you suggesting they let the Ts rebel? Isn't that the purpose of being a CT is to prevent rebelling? What is the point of not killing them when they go into the vent to just has someone go into vent and cut them off...only to kill them.

 

You already have a huge advantage over the T's I don't even know why this needs to be discussed any further.

 

They agreed to play a game which they know they will probably die in. The Ts on our server have plenty of chances to rebel and kill CTs, it's not like killing them after they lose a death game will eliminate all chances to rebel the rest of the round.

 

 

I really feel like this is a bunch of overthinking and just not looking at this straight forward. Four corners is a death game in which the floor breaks out from under you. When the floor breaks and you fall you lose the death game. Once you have fallen you are fair game to die as you lost the game and you agreed to play a death game. Either way the T is going to die so it doesn't matter if the water or a CT kills them, its as simple as that.

[Kicks]

They lost the voluntary deathgame so they are allowed to be killed. Thats what happens in a deathgame, you lose, you die.

 

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