CT'S FORCING LR'S

[Virtious]

In my opinion I think that when you tell a T to LR when you're a CT such in as LR by 2:30 its like forcing a death game. I think its forcing a death game because either a T dies in the LR or when a T wins the LR other CT's can just kill the T for killing the CT in the LR. Either way you're going to end up dying either by other CT's or just by losing the LR. If the T fails to comply also you get warning shot or end up dying so there's no way of escaping a LR.

[Grateful]

It is called Last request's for a reason.

Last Request can only be activated when 3 or less Terrorist's are alive

[Casual]

This rule of forcing ts to lr was put in place because of ts that would delay the round then not lring. It's common sense to kill somebody who kills a Ct. I think the majority of people would much rather play the game mode rather than watching 3 ts round around the map for 3 mins with their dicks out.

[Rhyzhe]

  Virtious said:

In my opinion I think that when you tell a T to LR when you're a CT such in as LR by 2:30 its like forcing a death game. I think its forcing a death game because either a T dies in the LR or when a T wins the LR other CT's can just kill the T for killing the CT in the LR.

 

If there is 3 or less Ts alive at 2:30 I would rather have the CTs find a way to end the round quicker so that the whole server can play rather than waiting for these select few people to delay the round. This causes population to drop due to not many people having that much patience. However you only give 2 options there of a T dying in both scenarios but there are many times when the T does win a LR or the other CTs allow them to do another one.

 

Either way you're going to end up dying either by other CT's or just by losing the LR. If the T fails to comply also you get warning shot or end up dying so there's no way of escaping a LR.

 

As I said before, you can win the LR and kill the CT team or just rebel. You aren't restricted to follow CTs orders consistently. Its a PRISON BREAK server for a reason. Rebelling is the main concept of T and if you find yourself unhappy with ending up at a LR find ways to rebel early/mid round and avoid it. It's all up to how you choose to play.

 

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[Cept For Her]

Not really making an argument for why LRs should be enforced (although theres plenty of reasons they should be), im more just gonna say this. LRs are a Ts time to get to do what they want in the round on the map. LRs are not restricted to using the !lr plugin, as custom LRs are always allowed to be requested. For example, on occassions I will make my Last Request be to say, go to disco or soccer or something. Once that LR is complete, the CTs have completed the LR they agreed to giving me and therefore they can kill me for it. If you do RPS as an LR using the plugin, the T may be killed afterwards if the CT died, because the LR was complete. Alternatively, CTs can opt to pardon said prisoner after their LR is completed and give them anoter one.

 

So LRs are really in no way FORCING a deathgame, but rather giving the Ts an option of either playing some sort of deathgame, or instead just asking to do some activity, and CTs have full right to allow/not allow certain LRs to take place

[Marc griffin]

I agree with you but usually t's wins cause of the players rebelling but yea.

[Dominic]

Oh man, before this rule was in place people who didn't like rebelling actually made people leave the server. The one T left would just follow the CT orders until the round ended even if there was like 2 minutes left. People actually resorted to freekilling them and then slaying for the sake of other people being able to play. LRs can only be forced at 3 or less Ts so the intended purpose is to end the round and let the other people who are dead back in.

 

Also you don't have to use !lr but these rules have to be followed for all LRs:

 

 

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Last Requests are special orders given by CTs that allow prisoners to decide what they want to do before they die. These orders are optional for prisoners to follow.

 

The following criteria must be met in order for a LR to be valid:

 

The request is reasonable

The LR activity isn't timed (i.e. a LR to do surf for 2 minutes)

The LR doesn't last for the remainder of the round (i.e. freedays)

A CT agrees to the LR

 

 

If a LR is invalid, a CT must reject it and tell the prisoner to choose another LR. If a CT agrees to do a LR, the LR cannot be revoked and must be carried out only by that CT until completed unless the prisoner rebels, the CT dies, or the prisoner dies. A prisoner is allowed to harm/kill the CT if their LR implies that the CT can be harmed and possibly killed by the prisoner. However, if the prisoner decides to rebel in a way that is not implied in their LR, they can be killed (i.e. shooting at another CT when doing shot for shot).

 

A LR is complete once the prisoner and/or the participating CT dies. The prisoner may request to continue their LR once the original LR is complete, however the remaining CTs are not required to honor this request and the prisoner can be killed after completion of their LR. The request to continue cannot be a part of the original LR. If a prisoner's LR is interrupted and unable to be completed, such as another prisoner killing the CT who agreed to do gun toss, the prisoner loses their LR but cannot be killed and may request another LR.

 

Below are examples of popular LR's:

 

Shot for shot (s4s) - Prisoner and CT take turns firing 1 pistol shot at each other from a distance until someone dies.

Knife fight (kf) - Prisoner and CT go 1v1 using knives only until someone dies.

Gun toss (gt) - Prisoner throws a weapon as far as possible off a ledge, CT tries to beat their marker, winner gets to kill the loser.

 

 

It's there for a reason and it'll most likely stay that way.

[delirium]

Just a FYI...

 

Posting something like this achieves nothing other than documenting that you don't fully understand the game mode at this point. In the future I would recommend that when you present something that you feel is an issue that you also try to present a solution. As others have said, allowing CT's to force last requests was a reaction to a play style that killed off our population for a period of time.

 

I'm honestly disappointed in the way you've represented yourself on the forums thus far... I expected someone who could formulate some bright ideas based on the way you act on the servers (read: better than everyone else) Hopefully you can take some time to evaluate how and what you're saying because nothing about you screams admin material at this point.

[Virtious]

if I was trying to be admin id kiss up to admins, which I clearly don't do.

[delirium]

  Virtious said:

if I was trying to be admin id kiss up to admins, which I clearly don't do.

 

Clearly.

 

I think you missed the point of what I was saying, or, ignored it completely. As the saying goes: "you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"