[JB Feedback] Ranks & Points

[Ray]

The system would separate T and CT ranks.

 

Even if they were separated, people would still try to get to the top of the CT ranks and break rules in the process to get there faster. I still don't see a reason why we need it in the first place.

[All Ts]

Even if they were separated, people would still try to get to the stop of the CT ranks and break rules in the process to get there faster. I still don't see a reason why we need it in the first place.

 

The difference between TTT and JB is that TTT has a clear set of principles that can be identified by the karma plugin that is good or bad. Our CS:GO TTT's plugin of karma was originally a method on GMOD TTT for the server to automatically administrate, often giving players a timeout for being under a certain Karma. This plugin was very successful because of this, as the only negative externality came when things like rankings for RDM came into effect. This same difference I mentioned in my first post is that on Jailbreak you cannot really tell whether someone is playing correctly on CT side by taking solely kills into account, but there are numbers that you could take to make an educated guess. These ways while not fully reliable form an algorithm of sorts if you take administration into account, and the fact that our server has rules.

 

The way for CT's to earn these things in a more reliable, concrete way are things like earning a good chunk of points for winning a round, winning a last request, spending time on the CT team, earning a small amount of points for kills. I agree with you that this might enable some people to play with a more competitive edge even possibly trying to cut around rules or actually break them in some instances. I would argue that while that situation would happen in off-hand instances that the positive externalities that would come from this are better CT's, a much more populated server, and players that are more willing to hold each other accountable for their actions. This all isn't to say that I completely disagree with you (I was very against the TTT Karma plugin back in 2016), but I think putting a ranking system on JB has benefits that far outweigh the cost. Anyone who would decide to start ruining people's time on the server in the name of points would be dealt with as they usually are, and the people who really do want to wreak havoc I doubt really give a shit about their rank on our server in the first place. Separating the teams really fixes the issue in a lot of ways, but also I don't see how even if we did decide to clump it all in one why this type of thing is any worse than gameME stats.

 

If more people express your concern I honest to god won't go ahead with drafting anything up, but I don't feel like it's a serious issue.

[Phoenix_]

Personally, I think that !rank should be kept as many people have many, many hours invested into their score.

 

BUT, if a new plugin were added that would promote rebelling and reward for it like TTT's Karma contest (or whatever it was called), I think that would be nice. Finding point rewards for being on CT might be difficult because in most cases, it would just promote camping and being more trigger-happy than many CT players are already. That's the issue with implementing a lot of things on JB because it can cause no one wanting to play CT, or can cause everyone wanting to play CT, making T too easy or CT too easy.

 

This sounds like a really cool idea, but finding a balance that would keep all sides balanced and still fun to play might be difficult to achieve.

[Bernard.]

like most people said i think it would upset a lot of people like me to have the t kills reset because of the time some people have spent. i think ct rank idea is a good thing to try out because some people like @Military_king only play ct side and dont get to be shown for a high place on a leaderboard. (yes i know theres gameme stats but i dont think people really check that often) adding a ct rank is a cool idea, but like @Ray said it could lead to freekilling and chaos on the server because people want to get that #1 spot

[Lokibelowkey]

Honestly we need a way to gain points on CT i am currently a CT main after being a T for i think a month and i feel as though it's unfair that we don't get points for doing good but I can understand why because it could lead to more free killing but maybe have a internal system that during a round will identify a rebeler after they do damage to a CT

and when the CT kills them they get something towards a rank system.

[Four]

Honestly the entire rank plugin should be reset monthly to give the newer players a chance at the #1 spot.