[Answered] Wanna fix JB? Here's how!

[leo]

As you may see by the title, I'm gonna focus this post on how to fix the JB server from all the issues that it currently faces: freekilling, mass-freekilling, mic spam, toxicity, racism, disrespect, etc.

There are many ways to fix the issue at hand, but lets start with the rules. These are a couple of rules that I believe must be added/removed from the current JB server so that we can fix issues.

1. [Remove] Remove warning shots. Not only does it lead freekilling (accidental headshots, AWP warning shots, double warning shots, etc.) but it also allows for people to say, "No, it was his 2nd warning shot already." or "It was a warning shot, not a freekill." If you remove warning shots not only will you get a better CT-T round win ratio because rebelling of any sort will be KOS, but you will also have less freekills.

2. [Add] Add a warden system. With a warden system you'd have however many CT's and one main CT who would give all the orders. This would remove the issue of conflicting orders, contradicting orders and people calling out orders over each other. This will keep it so that T's will only listen to orders from one person and not be afraid of getting freekilled because there was a T order or something of sorts.

3. [Add] Add an !peace/!silence command that can be used by the warden (as described above). The way that this command would work is that the warden would be able to (once every 1-3 minutes) type !silence in chat and it would mute everyone for a certain period of time. This would allow for him to give any imperative orders that he needs to give without being interrupted and screamed over.

4. [Remove] Remove this rule that says that 'you can't force death games'. If you can't force death games then what's the point of having 20 death games in a map? By forcing T's to do death games, players will die from the games, not from CT's. The way the server works now forces CT's to kill T's to get to LR, if they don't kill the T's, the round will end in a draw or in a CT loss. Forcing death games is part of JB.

5. [Add] Increase the amount of time that rounds have. After removing #4 (the suggestion above), having longer rounds would be fantastic. It would allow for more games to be played.

6. [Add] A CT queue instead of allowing anyone to join CT. This means that if someone gets swapped and the admin leaves the server, the player must wait in queue before joining CT again, giving a bigger time gap between the swap and returning to CT. Players with longer play-time (up to 24 hours) get queue priority.

7. [Add] Add specific special days, such as warday (CT's pick a map area and they must stay in that area and kill the T's that come in near proximity of that area, last 2 T's alive get LR), hide and seek (T's get let out of cells and must hide, last 2 alive get LR), freeday, low grav. freeday, drugs freeday, battle royale (T's fight other T's, last 2 alive get LR). These specific special days could be accessed by the warden through a command such as !sd (short for special day).

8. [Add] A chat filter that prevents people from saying the N word or any derivative of it, cursing (excessive), homophobia, sexism, racism, etc.

9. [Add] Start a warn-kick-ban system. Someone freekilled > slay, again, kick, again, ban. Said the N word > mute, again, kick, again, ban. Quite often I see player screaming the N word and spraying stack as if there was no tomorrow. After killing a mass stack they get team switched. That's not right. Minimum for spraying down a stack should be a 1 week ban.

10. [Remove] Repeat maps. There are at least 5 maps on the map pool that are reskins of electric. They have the exact same layout and those are the only maps that get rotated. Rarely do you see maps such as clouds, peanut, etc. played. This will cause for players to know more about different maps, discover new secrets (something that the JB community needs. I went on clouds and knew all secrets while 95% of players didn't know the most basic ones) and, at the end, have a more diverse map pool.

 

These are a few of the suggestions I can think of right now. I will keep on adding to this post as I think of new suggestions.

 

I've been playing JB since 2014 and I'd say I know a lot about it. I'm glad to attempt and help with plugins, adding new rules and enforcing them if needed.

 

Please give me feedback on what you think

 

Regards,

- Leo

[Roxas]

If i want most of these rules I can just go play on PG JB lmao, if you think SG JB isn't good because it doesn't have these rules then go to PG since it has similar rules that you are suggesting

[Dominic]

I don't intend on responding to every suggestion in detail, but you're pretty much telling us to go against everything that makes our server do well. Not every suggestion here is bad, some sort of mute command and special days are some stuff All Ts and I had planned, but the other ones are just completely restructuring the server. Removing warning shots, adding death-games, adding a warden, increasing round times, these are things that go against the gameplay our server offers. It's fast paced and easy to rebel, that's what people enjoy. I'm not out right rejecting your ideas, but some of them also make very little sense when you look at your goals and what these will fix.

 

I don't know how long you've been on SG Jailbreak, but not having these "basic" things other Jailbreak servers do does well for us.

[leo]

I don't intend on responding to every suggestion in detail, but you're pretty much telling us to go against everything that makes our server do well. Not every suggestion here is bad, some sort of mute command and special days are some stuff All Ts and I had planned, but the other ones are just completely restructuring the server. Removing warning shots, adding death-games, adding a warden, increasing round times, these are things that go against the gameplay our server offers. It's fast paced and easy to rebel, that's what people enjoy. I'm not out right rejecting your ideas, but some of them also make very little sense when you look at your goals and what these will fix.

 

I don't know how long you've been on SG Jailbreak, but not having these "basic" things other Jailbreak servers do does well for us.

Bro, it's not what people enjoy. It's what the trolls enjoy. No mutes, easy guns, no admins, can't die. It's a perfect way to make trolls. They can scream because there are no mic restrictions, they can run because they need to be warning shot after rebelling? These things don't make the server do well, they just host trolls. The server just became free, that's why the population on it boomed, because trolls can join easily. I'm sorry to say this in a harsh way, but the server is currently a mess. These basic things you talk about don't make the server do well... SG hosts the rookie players that will eventually move on when they discover new servers...

[leo]

If i want most of these rules I can just go play on PG JB lmao, if you think SG JB isn't good because it doesn't have these rules then go to PG since it has similar rules that you are suggesting

 

Yeah I could, but their administration is too corrupt. Also, let's not discuss other servers here because I'm pretty sure it's not allowed and it won't fix the issue.

[Dominic]

Bro, it's not what people enjoy. It's what the trolls enjoy. No mutes, easy guns, no admins, can't die. It's a perfect way to make trolls. They can scream because there are no mic restrictions, they can run because they need to be warning shot after rebelling? These things don't make the server do well, they just host trolls. The server just became free, that's why the population on it boomed, because trolls can join easily. I'm sorry to say this in a harsh way, but the server is currently a mess.

 

There's no plugin you can add or rule you can put in place that will stop trolls. You're suggesting stuff like increased round times on the basis that it will help fix our problem which is rule breaking. We need more admins, that's very apparent, but introducing an entire warden system among other things to combat rule breaking is futile.

 

The server was pushing other servers out of the second US JB server spot before the game became free, we've been doing well, that's literally undeniable.

[sweet]

I like SG Jailbreak for one main reason. It's different then all of the others. That's why you can always see 50/50 slots filled. One flaw with that though is that new players might not know what to do on CT side so there is an EXTREMELY simple fix: Tell them to read rules and make them switch to T side after they learn the basics of the game. As for freekillers, there's also an easy fix. Go on forums > go into shoutbox > call an admin to the server > profit.

[leo]

There's no plugin you can add or rule you can put in place that will stop trolls. You're suggesting stuff like increased round times on the basis that it will help fix our problem which is rule breaking. We need more admins, that's very apparent, but introducing an entire warden system among other things to combat rule breaking is futile.

 

The server was pushing other servers out of the second US JB server spot before the game became free, we've been doing well, that's literally undeniable.

 

Look, I understand your views, but if you start to play JB more, you'll understand that all the trolls are here. I played on another server for over a year and a half and trolling was NEVER an issue, EVER. Although admins were often on it, the rules, plugins and server setup prevented these trolls from having success. It made them want to leave the server because they'd always get shut down.

[leo]

I like SG Jailbreak for one main reason. It's different then all of the others. That's why you can always see 50/50 slots filled. One flaw with that though is that new players might not know what to do on CT side so there is an EXTREMELY simple fix: Tell them to read rules and make them switch to T side after they learn the basics of the game. As for freekillers, there's also an easy fix. Go on forums > go into shoutbox > call an admin to the server > profit.

2 issues with the 2 things you said: People don't ACTUALLY read the rules. They need to wait a miserable 25 minutes to join CT and control anyone.

Going into shoutbox and telling an admin to come on won't cause for people to be banned. They will get slayed, then swapped. Nothing ever happens after that.

[thump]

Most of these just make the server like all the other JB servers. I didn't like the other servers because of some of the additions that you want to this JB server. The warden system isn't very fun because it only allows for 1 CT to give the orders and makes it confusing when the warden dies from what I've experienced on other servers. The silence and peace command seem like they could be easily abused by CTs. The forced death games is one of them. I just didn't enjoy having forced death games and losing to the regulars. It isn't fun for new players to play these forced death games and forced special days at least from my experience. They will most likely end up dying to the regulars who do it often. If the CTs want to do a death game then they can ask the Ts if they want to do the specific death game. From my experience on the servers CTs rarely ask them to play the death games that are already on the map. I think the fun part about this server is being able to survive and rebel easily. Its pretty easy for new players to survive and once they pick up on all the secrets and tricks on maps, they can start rebelling pretty easily and rack up kills on T side. About the removing the warning shot rule, I don't agree with it at all. If there are no warning shots then the Ts can just disobey orders without consequence. There has to be a consequence for the Ts when they do something wrong otherwise they can just do it all the time without repercussions. This would make rebelling extremely easy and would make controlling the Ts hell for the CTs. The chat filter seems like a good idea, but would only cause people to try to find ways of avoiding the filter. The warn-kick-ban system doesn't seem that bad, but you can just make a player complaint. Most people say they can't make a complaint cause they can't record, but just record a demo by typing 'record demo' in console and it records everything that happens after that. Most of the suggestions you have just make the server a replica of all the other servers out there and I don't really want that and I'd assume a lot of other JB regs wouldn't like that either. The differences this server has is what I like about it.