[Answered] Q for JB

[ape chy]

Hello, I've recently noticed over the past couple of days on maps such as "electric_razor" and "electric_revamp" have no T's spawning in iso for quite a while. I don't know if this is true but did the changelogs include the removal of T's spawning in Iso to give advantages to CT's or another reason? Correct me if I'm mistaken. Just pointing it out

[Kopsta]

The spawn was removed because the secret that you could activate would usually fuck over the CTs on the round, which is very unfair since the CTs are already at a disadvantage looking at the server's wins on the T side and CT side.

[Dom]

it was removed because of this thread. The secret gave Ts too big of an advantage in the beginning of the round so they removed the spawn point.

[destroylonelyfan2011]

the topic was discussed in this thread here: https://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96746

 

 

the managers agreed and removed the spawn points

[20 scrolls]

Yes, spawnpoints in iso were removed to give cts more control (so a t cant just use the iso secret and open cells)

[ape chy]

thank !

[Bondairy]

I know the isolation spawn point was removed because it would be overpowered but I think it was great because it would encourage CTs to grab a gun give orders and enforce them and for the other CTs to take position. I would like to know if anything would be added in place of the isolation spawn but less overpowered. For example a spawn in VIP cell for jb_razor_go, I believe there isn’t a VIP spawn for that map and it would be a great replacement because it has the same effect on the CTs and it is less overpowered in the sense of you can only get a scout or a deagle, I mean you could also get an awp/scout at the soccer secret from showers but it would take way more time the right clicking the top of a cell then hitting E on a button to let everyone out, just my 2 cents here!

[Infinityward]

it was removed because of this thread. The secret gave Ts too big of an advantage in the beginning of the round so they removed the spawn point.

 

This ^

[Benzene]

This is just my opinion, but I love the iso spawn. It forces the CTs to get out of armory at the very beginning of the round, or at least give an order so the Ts can't rush out.

 

I've spent 8+ hours just today on stealth in JB watching over the server, and I've had to tell the CTs to give orders every single round in some cases.

 

I can see why they did remove it though, as it's definitely possible for some people to be free killed because a CT thought it was them who opened the secret, etc.

[Kopsta]

This is just my opinion, but I love the iso spawn. It forces the CTs to get out of armory at the very beginning of the round, or at least give an order so the Ts can't rush out.

 

I've spent 8+ hours just today on stealth in JB watching over the server, and I've had to tell the CTs to give orders every single round in some cases.

 

I can see why they did remove it though, as it's definitely possible for some people to be free killed because a CT thought it was them who opened the secret, etc.

 

CTs are already heavily disadvantaged, if someone who knows the map spawns in iso, it would basically end the round in most cases. It doesn’t make the CTs want to give orders, the secret can be done in under 19 seconds, so it really gives the Ts the win for the round.