Jihads should be automatically KOS

[touchy]

Ct's rarely die to jihads and out of experience even if I have a jihad I rarely use it since it isn't the most fun way of rebelling. Just keep aware of people with jihads and try to do your best to kill them when they activate it.

[The Real Slim Jim]

Imo this change would open up a validation to freekill. Claiming you knew who had the jihad  when you actually only thought you knew. As you cant tell 100% until they die unless they are very very far from every other t.

 

If you hear a t with a jihad and you think you know who it is you can notify your cts who you heard arm.

 

You can also keep a jihad between rounds, so having a jihad doesnt give clear intent to rebel in the current round.

 

 

Overall id rate this idea Dolo/10

[Justin]

why tf nerf T side. CT side is literally broken, unless you have nobody who can give decent orders, or if ur on vip / razor. Every CT can literally get 135 hp, which makes it so you cannot left left right click knife a ct, but ONE terrorist each round can buy a jihad that you have to wait for a smart opportunity to even think about getting maybe 1 or 2 kills on the braindead ct’s. why tf u want to nerf something that is literally less successful than rushing a ct and hoping he doesnt have health boost and knifing him. If anything buff it.

[TheZZL]

1 hour ago, jsb said:

why tf nerf T side. CT side is literally broken, unless you have nobody who can give decent orders, or if ur on vip / razor. Every CT can literally get 135 hp

This is not true. CT side is notoriously disadvantaged from the Prisoners by numbers, skill, coordination, and a whole slew of other factors. The Buy Menu is set up in a way where there are limits on how many people can buy an item per round. Currently, only three Guards can purchase the HealthBoost in one round, not "every CT".

Check out all the values for the CTBuy Menu here: 

 

 

 

As mentioned in responses, @dolo, the rules clearly state that the initial arming of the Jihad (or *beep*) is not KOS, and you are only KOS when activating a Jihad, whether it detonates or fails. Making it KOS in all regards would cause more confusion, as Guards would kill wherever they heard a beep and kill the wrong person. Your suggestion to change the Jihad Menu, I think it's currently fine and I don't see a need to change how it's set up as of now.

On 1/31/2021 at 3:33 PM, dolo said:

mowing everyone down would be overkill and usually the jihad gets armed during the "take a step out and freeze stage" if their are 3 or 4 players in the cell that it beeps than obviously you should not kill any good ct would know this. But you would be able to tell if they are alone in their cell. 

Isn't that messed up though? You're killing the Prisoner before they've even thought to rebel. Sometimes you purchase a Jihad and there are no opportunities during that round to use it, so you might want to save it until next round. 

 

 

 For @dafty's idea, we can discuss possibly buffing the Jihad's damage. The current values are 

 

400 damage

450 blast radius

.25 fail chance

30 second delay before it an be used

 

I think increasing the damage would be a smarter idea, as it can help with those that use the Healthboost, and solidify kills through thin walls/mid-distance. Please continue discussing how you think we should work on buffing the Jihad.

 

[TheZZL]

The Jailbreak Team discussed it, and with upcoming nerfs to the Healthboost we don't see buffing the Jihad as a good idea. We'll continue to host the "Jihad Crazed" events in the future, where we buff the jihad in all aspects, but for normal gameplay it won't happen. Thanks for the suggestions, the original thread is answered above.