Lemmings19

The conditions may not be ideal, but the location is. Maybe offshore of Antarctica.

As a reference to Area 51. If the government wants to actually have a secret location to perform testing, don't you think somewhere very remote without anyone around to bare witness would work much better than somewhere within the USA? Maybe Alaska, but setting up base in Antarctica or Greenland would be fairly ideal in my opinion. They probably already have.

I would imagine that picking somewhere like Antartica or Greenland would be a far better place to perform testing in secret. As for alien existence, there has to be intelligent life within the galaxy, but whether or not they have made their way to Earth, I don't know. But I wouldn't doubt it. There are after all a lot of claims from many different people, though many of those claims are very unstable. Cool theory, and a widespread one, is that they were attracted (recently) to Earth after the first atomic bombs. Makes some sense.

I have not problem with people believing in religions (or most religions for that matter), so long as the religion isn't manipulative to serve someone's cause or distill bad morals from the religion into people etc. Religion can be very good for some people, and keep their lives on track or turn their lives around. There actually is some power behind prayer (whether or not there is a god listening) because it is essentially meditation, which can indeed help focus the body and mind for the better. *And your lulz aren't so bad, Italian Jew, it was just some of the things that Misanthrope was posting were going a bit far and had no point other than for him to be a dick.

It would appear that Misanthrope has been banned from the forums. Five days I think, so he didn't get a chance to read those last few replies I think.

(started typing this after post #55 and then went afk. I that see other things have come up. This is directed at Misanthrope.) What you need to learn is that there are topics (not forum topics) that sometimes need to be taken seriously (people talking about beliefs, posting with thought, and then you posting with pictures simply stating that religion is stupid, and not contributing anything meaningful, just going out for some "lulz"), or when others are taking them seriously, you need to respect them and not just make a big joke of it. There is nothing wrong with humor, but there is such a thing as the wrong time and place to try to use humor. And definitely such a thing as the wrong humor to use around the wrong people. Just because you find something (like the idea of little children being molested perhaps) funny as hell, doesn't mean that the next person will find it the least bit funny, in fact they may go the other way with it. Use restraint, use judgment, and keep the "lulz" to people who appreciate your sense of humor; be it flat out insulting other people's beliefs, or posting images about 3 year olds and sexual situations because you won't get far with some people. But hey, if you decide to take over a thread and constantly keep posting stuff like that, yeah it will turn into that kind of a thread because the stuff with actual meaning will have lost most of it's value. I find it unfortunate that you cannot consider taking a different approach to things. I personally am not hypersensitive. I have a sense of humor, but I know enough to not use it everywhere and with everyone, because not everyone else has the same sense of humor. Even if they do, I know enough to use it in the right context. (and one thing to be learned, and learned quickly is that text holds no sarcasm in it's tone of voice. This is the difference between text being typed seriously and text being typed sarcastically. See the difference? Watch what you type because the next person will most likely not read it the way you meant for it to be read. But you probably know this by now.) All I was doing was trying to tell you some actual advice, and rather than actually thinking about it, you have simply responded with a handful of insults. You are acting like a very close-minded individual. *Let me say that in case you haven't figured it out by now, I'm not going to laugh at your response if you try to be funny about this while you are actually just avoiding thinking. But the choice is obviously still yours about whether you listen to what I say or not. *And I don't find the idea of little children being molested funny in any way, shape or form. If a conversation were going on, and it somehow just fit in, you might be able to make it funny, but randomly posting it in a thread like this shows no class in my opinion. 4chan exists for a reason. *I'm not even going to bother saying anything about how anything came to be. Speculation will remain just that, and I don't see how any human being can think that they have actually it figured out. Controversy can make for a great topic, but at the same time a horrible one.

Misanthrope, you really aren't figuring out how to help your case much, are you? Stop just insulting religions because you seem to enjoy it. The point that they have been arguing is that you cannot disprove it, so you cannot actually say with 100% confidence that it is false. Nobody can actually claim 100% one way or the other. It is an unknown. In my personal opinion, religions are extremely questionable, but there is a possibility of them being real, even if it is an extremely remote possibility in my mind. In my opinion, Misanthrope, you should stop arguing that religions and everything about them is false, because you cannot prove it. You have stated your opinion on them, and that should have been enough. If people disagree, so be it. If you have constructive thoughts about how to argue or debate (not fight about) other people's ideas, and they are open to your input, go ahead and state your opinion, in a constructive manner. All you have been doing is making yourself look like an asshole by posting that religion is stupid while seeming to not listen to other people's arguments and remaining hard headed to your beliefs but expecting others to listen to what you have to say. If you are going to argue something, you need to have an open mind and allow other people to express their ideas to you and take them into consideration, not just express your ideas but not listen to the other person's ideas. You aren't debating anything, you are dictating your beliefs to others, and people don't like that.

Apparently I'm one of these: Nut-licking hobo who likes to explore doorknobs. Blue porn star who likes to rape gorillas. Diseased baby who likes to infultrate (they spell it this way) vibrators.

Pfft, WHY? Why not? I can't think of a legitimate reason not to toss the caber! It's there. Why not try to toss it? I toss everything I see. My monitor, babies, my fan, my bed, random strangers, desks, my mouse and keyboard, and anything else that I can lift! Why toss the caber... Pfft. What a stupid question. The real answer is perfectly obvious. Pussy. It turns chicks on. How is that not obvious to you? ujpfCRpqkFs Now do a Google search for chicks getting wet over the caber toss. Yeah, that's right, twelve billion pages found. Now think about how much pussy that guy gets. Jealous? Go toss a caber. Hell, do what I do, toss whatever you see. Most of it works.

In WoW, on my undead mage: There was (has since been removed) and invisible wall beside an unclimbable hillside in a remote location with no NPC's around, and no reason for most players to go there. The only way to get behind this wall was for a mage to use their Blink spell (instant cast, 20s cooldown, teleports player 15 yards ahead over what needs to be mostly flat terrain), this would put the mage behind the wall without ever needing to physically go through it. I figured that there might be one other way to get behind it; a warrior's charge (Charges the target player if they are within something like 20 yards. The charging player loses control of their character while charging, and the game moves their character to the target.). But for this to work, there has to be someone behind this wall. With my plan ready, I go about looking for an Alliance warrior within the local vicinity. I find a dwarf warrior, and after a brief session of /taunt, /spit, /yourealittlewhorecomegetme emotes, I had his attention and he was pursuing me. I lead him off the beaten path to this invisible wall, and cast my blink spell to get behind it. He quickly realizes that he cannot simply walk to me, while I'm doing /insult emotes towards him. So I guess he thought he was getting clever, he used his charge ability and charged to my location, behind the invisible wall, probably thinking that he would have me, a mage (distance is my friend in PvP, unlike warriors) cornered and an easy target. He fell for it. My blink cooldown was ready, and I simply blinked out, and ran out of range of his charge. Now he was in the middle of nowhere, and stuck behind an invisible wall with nowhere to go. GG (he had to hearth) The Deeprun Tram is a long, underground tram, connecting two major Alliance cities. As Horde, it can be fun to make your way here to gank alliance. Well I decided to have some fun with it. I got a paladin to chase me all the way to the exact mid point of this tram, I then polymorphed (30 second debuff where he can't do shit, turns into a sheep/ pig/ turtle and walks around) him, opened a portal to Ogrimmar (main Horde city) right in front of him, waved goodbye, and left. He had to either run all of the way back, or hearthstone. It's a long run, and you can't mount up down there. Oh... and speccing my mage so that I could one shot well geared people at 60, even with only moderate raiding gear. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8303/5422nr2.jpg

It delivers because if you don't agree, then you are not like everyone else. You don't want to be different, do you? Everyone will laugh at you. I thought not. :001_tongue:

Ah... Yeah I guess he may have been. My mistake.

I don't believe that I am spamming my beliefs and making myself look like a moron in the process. If what you say is true, then you've just spammed your beliefs, and made yourself look like a moron. You said what you said because you believe it to be true, and wanted to share your point of view with people in this thread. We posted what we posted in this thread because we believe it to be true and wanted to share our point of view with people. I don't believe this to be spamming my view, I even made a disclaimer and warning in my first post in this thread so that people would know ahead of time that I was going to state my opinion on religion, and so that I wouldn't be pushing my views on anyone who didn't want to see what I had to say. I personally am not trying to convert people's beliefs, I'm just stating my opinion on the matter of religion (so many people just act like lemmings and follow along with religions without even thinking about what they are saying that they believe in), and why I think the way I do. I find meaningful debates to be interesting, though it appears to have quickly strayed away from the meaningful part.

Can I have some of your popcorn?

I would hope that you're not actually fucking her.

People kiting world bosses in World of Warcraft into main cities. Jl0VWJdE01M That was always fun... until Blizzard got all gay and made the bosses rubber band (reset) after a few hundred yards so that they could no longer be kited into cities. The fun parts were the parts that you weren't supposed to do, and then they made it so that it was impossible to do them anymore. :thumbdown: --------------------------- When Zul'Gurub (an instance/ dungeon in World of Warcraft) first came out and there was a debuff named corrupted blood. This dealt 263-337 damage (heavily geared, maxed level players had around 4000-5000 life, non-geared max leveled players had around 2500-3000, level ones had around 100) and spread to nearby allies. Players could get this debuff, and take portals to major (friendly) cities before the debuff wore off, giving the debuff to hundreds of other players in the cities. And those players would spread it to other players. When it was taken somewhere like an auction house or bank where many players can be seen sitting AFK or busy with things other than their character, many of the higher level characters were sure to die of it along with the lower levels. Of course, Blizzard fixed this all too soon so that the debuff could no longer be taken out of the dungeon, but it was pure awesomeness while it lasted. http://wowaids.ytmnd.com/ Volatile Infection was far more powerful. These hunters had their pets infected, and had their friends heal it while they controlled them, killing allies. oU62bsIsnjA rqQ1n01SDm8 --------------------------- There is a long quest line for the Horde, and at the end of it, you choose an answer to a question. Answer correctly and grats. Answer wrong and you are now unfriendly to all horde for an hour or two. This means that you can attack the Horde NPC's, but they will not attack you on sight. A group of Horde players (max level, well geared) decided that they would all do this quest, and all answer the question wrong so that they could be hostile to the Horde, and kill their own faction's main boss, Thrall. (there have been copycats) DhiTOMXlL-A

Well maybe it would be better to say that I have a belief system other than Atheist. I believe (99%) that no gods exist, but I don't know that no gods exist, I have no proof. I'm open to anything, there just needs to be something backing it up if I'm going to believe it. I suppose I shouldn't really label myself as anything because to be honest, I do not know everything behind each belief system. Maybe there's something in Atheism that says the world is made of jello, but that doesn't mean I believe that. I don't claim to know true (100%) answers to anything, but I think I have a good idea of some things. One of those being that the mainstream religions are full of flat out lies because they have absolutely no evidence to back up any of what they are saying. But for all I know, it is all true, I just really really don't think so. Maybe calling myself an Atheist isn't proper, I don't know, I just thought that the general ideals were kind of what I believe. And if there is a god, or gods (or have been at one point in human history), the only explanation I can think of for them are alien life forms that were here thousands of years ago and impressed a bunch of primitives with their technology. And that would make the word god nothing more than an exaggeration of a more advanced civilization. But in modern day, I see no reason to believe in gods, because there has been no evidence of such things, past or present. Unless you count the pyramids and things like that, but nobody has brought to light (to the public?) any real evidence of an alien presence. But still, the only thing I see going for religion is that it cannot be dis proven, and can be claimed to be true until otherwise is proven.

Warning: Debating that religion is false, heated argument may ensue! Don't read the rest of this if you are both easily offended and religious, just scroll past it and ignore it, please. Disclaimer (lol): Everything that I state here is what my "religion" believes in (I am considering atheism a religion for the time being so that I can gain the perks of religion; is it generally courteous to respect religion, even if you think it is wrong, and if someone says that what they believe is a religion, it is. I respect other religions [mostly], I just don't believe in them.). Hah! This doesn't mean that you shouldn't bring up points to support your religion's veracity to counter what I (my "religion") say. I would really like to hear some. I love how people in churches and whatnot can preach all this crap as if they know exactly what "Jesus" or "God" think. It's what the people think, not these deities think. I don't see the deities saying this stuff... in fact... I don't even see these deities at all! Just a really, really old book with no proof and people who say they hear voices in their head (from God) - there is a word for that, schizophrenia. It requires treatment. If that guy in the white dress thing is actually someone who died and was resurrected ~2,000 years ago, then sure, go ahead and believe what he says if you really think that he's all-knowing. But if he's just some old guy who needs a haircut and some exercise, then he's just making up what he thinks "Jesus" would say, and so is every other preacher. But wait, for every logical point against religion, there are ten ways to ignore it and not question a religion because that would mean to reveal the lies. If religions are real, then (first of all, religions; so many believe theirs to be the only true one, how is that possible?) shouldn't you be able to cite any part of a religion and have something to back it up to prove that it is true? Or even be able to cite any part of religion to prove it's truth? The only thing I see going for religion is that a lot of it cannot be dis proven, and therefore, could theoretically be true. But hey, you can't dis prove me being a god, so I'm a god. Prove otherwise. (Oh, and religion often makes for a good set of morals and makes the world easier to take for people who are too stupid to figure that kind of stuff out on their own.)

Epic lameness. It's not even as if your DVD got screwed up in some big catastrophe, the XBOX just fell over.

Cabbage Patch Kids: Where's My Pony? BEST GAME EVER PERIOD The only way that this game could be improved is by putting the word "Fucking" into the title: Cabbage Patch Kids: Where's My Fucking Pony?

Agreed. Two words: Summer, heat.

There you go. A freaking cupcake. Be happy, it was my favourite cupcake from... cakejournal.com. I figured you'd appreciate the pink icing and flowers since I know you that well, us being best friends all our lives and stuff (we don't know each other at all, I'm just bored). Now eat your god damned pixels and be happy about it. I SAID BE HAPPY. (I remember my dad actually saying shit like that... Commanding me to be happy in a pissed off tone. Wtf was he thinking? Well I remember it working so well that I just now figured that I should try doing it myself. It worked, didn't it?) *bows down as well*