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To add to that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mqdTSCaoWw

I say get rid of the extend map option altogether. Just another reason for me to not play in the server so much anymore...

I don't know what would cut the number of the CTs more, telling them they can't camp armory or allowing them to...

Took the words right out of my mouth. Or keyboard.

The timer's there to keep the damn round from dragging on. If you get killed trying to go commando on someone, do you really think it's fair for you to sit out for 8 minutes while your pussy ass teammates play hopscotch with the CTs? Fuck that. 5 minutes is even too long. And so what if there's some players left over at the end of the round? Is it going to kill everyone so much to see a round not finished? I'm sorry, and don't mean to be an ass or anything, but this is one of the dumbest ideas I've heard in awhile. It's nothing personal, but I can think of a million and one reasons why this should not happen.

U JUS MAD CUZ U LUV ELECTRIC N NO 1 ELSE DUZ. No, but seriously, we need some new maps dammit. Never played razor/a razor map before, and the critical response seems to be good. I'd like to try it out. I don't even see why there's debate about this.

Now before a lame ass admin comes in here and says something like "No." with nothing supportive to bring to the table, I'll say that a rule that requires CT's to have a mic might no be too bad of an idea, though I really feel that it isn't quite a necessity like a few other rules we might need right now (I'm not too sure what those may be, I'm a bit tired right now). On the LR command, I've never seen it before and don't know how it works, but I doubt it was something game breaking that would require it's eradication from the server, so what the hell, I say throw it in.

Yup, and then from there everyone rocks the vote, everyone votes for one of the two electric maps, and the cycle repeats.

That would be correct. Another thing I don't like is the overall color and tint of the map itself, if that makes any sense. It just gives me a headache. Now if the sky was dark like it was night, I think the map might be a bit better with the glowing trails and stuff like that.

So we have 3 yes and 3 no, and 1 50-50. Hmmm....

Map Removal Full map name ba_jail_experiments_v2d4y Type of map Prison Break Why should we remove it After repeated play on this map, I've come to the conclusion that there is nothing great about this map that should make it worthy of the server. A lot of the time CTs don't give orders on this map for whatever reason, and there's no way to get into the armory unless a CT opens the door to it or unless they go through the sewers, and this leads to a lot of armory camping. A lot of players seem to dislike this map like I do, too. If it isn't removed, then it would be nice to see it moved further into the rotation, because I honestly believe there are a lot more maps on the server better suited to take it's place on the rotation.

I agree. Electric twice back to back is just too much. And Experiments? If it were wiped from the server I wouldn't miss it.

I actually would like to see that too. I played Uprising for a little bit before it went down and really enjoyed the orange jumpsuits and cop-ish looking guards. Any way we can incorporate this into Mutiny? Or maybe have a poll?

Yeah, but if this were really a prison game, and not a modded server still based off of the basic rules of Counter-Strike: Source, we wouldn't be given knives in our cells and we wouldn't have a holster for a gun for it to even be visible in the first place. Gotta try to make the game as realistic as we can, but still keep a bit of fairness in the game too. A real prisoner would hide a gun in his pants, not in a holster on his hip. Fair enough if a CT sees it and asks him to drop it.

You must not hang around the PB server enough to know how the server really is. If it was so bad, it wouldn't have so much traffic. Sure, people get banned most from here, but that's because it's actually a server that requires certain rules that have to be followed in order to even make the game playable by a normal standard. You guys whine about how bad the server is, yet I've made over 50 friends on Steam on the server alone, which is more than I can say for any server I've ever played. Players and the community make the server what it is, don't they? If it's as bad as you say, I wouldn't be playing it on a daily basis like I do. Oh, and for any people that can't handle themselves as a CT, then go play T. Though the T's shouldn't be swarming you in the first place, if you actually give some orders and enforce them, you won't have to worry about T's ganging up on you in the first place. Not everyone is meant to be a person in charge. And above all, have a fucking mic. It's not a requirement, but with how many people are talking at once and so many people excited to be let out of their cages, you orders are most likely not gonna be read.

Know what I say when a person gets "freekilled"?? Get over it.

This. Though it would be a bitch to do, I think that would be the best way to go about it. And since it probably can't be done, there probably won't be a rule. This whole 2 minute procedure thing will just complicate the game even further than it already is. We have people arguing over if CTs are allowed to order Ts into the pool, whether primaries are allowed as immediate kills holstered of not, we really don't need to complicate the game any further...

Wait...what??

Yes, the CTs are fucking retarded. Except for when I'm a CT.

I see this situation as an active admin type of thing, dealt with at the admins' discretion. Though I'm not with the whole "make a rule against camping" thing, Evilgamer's camping really was annoying and pathetic. I think it should be dealt with as an active admin sees fit and only if the majority of players on the server see a problem with it. It's okay to camp a few rounds IMO, but camping for three straight hours as a CT and not doing anything else like Evilgamer did is beyond pathetic.

I can't wait to hear what Dante has to say about this.

I've heard of a few of my friends having the same problems. I, myself, have never experienced it though.

Ordering the Ts in the pool is an effective way of weeding out the rebels. When a rebel has a gun and all of the Ts are spread out at the entrance and the people protecting the rebel get killed, next round we get to hear a bunch of fucking crybabies whine because they didn't have a weapon and they weren't rebelling and they got killed in the crossfire and blah blah blah. Way I see it, if it doesn't kill them, it should be allowed. And in accordance with the AFK excuse, if you go AFK, it's your problem. It's not gonna ruin your day to drown and have to sit out a few minutes because you have something else that requires attention. The very idea of NOT allowing CTs to order Ts into the pool is ridiculous. I could see if it was the freezing water outside on Foxriver, but c'mon now.

Is there ANY way that we can implement this into the server? Because this is the best idea I've heard so far on the situation. If you're AFK then you honestly should be forfeiting your turn. We can't hold up the game because you're not around to follow the orders we give you. At the very least, a CT should at least be allowed to give a warning shot to an AFK player and be given a few seconds to follow the order, then from there the kill should be carried out. I dunno if this has been tried before, but this seems to be the cure for AFK.

I've had a personal experience with a server that allowed death games, and simply put, it's horrible. They completely strip T's of any chance of rebelling when put in the cage. It's like slave owning omega or some shit. I just find it to be cruel to other players and a way to get cheap kills. The CT's job is to patrol the prison and keep an eye out, not thin all the Ts out until there's only one left and let him try to shot for shot every CT on the team. Not allowing death games is the reason why I started playing on Mutiny in the first place. I dunno if it was the server I used to play on or what, but I really despise death games right now. Check out Lucky Gaming's PB server to get a good idea of what I'm talking about. The server admin there constantly plays them with such a dark tone and no enjoyment in his voice, it's kind of creepy, like he just does it to do it, like he must kill every T. Death games are a coward's way of getting kills and an excuse to not actually have to do what the server is intended to make a CT do, and that's patrol a prison. There are good CTs and there are bad CTs, and CTs only get better when they continually play CT and learn the rules, learn the maps, and learn good places to send the Ts and learn how to watch their backs. There's no skill in repeatedly sending the Ts to a certain place and freekilling them over and over.