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Mine is a Pentium D 805 2.66 GHz.

I realize you said you overclocked ur 8600, but I just got a HD 4670 and it only gets 71 fps on the video stress test, how are you getting 100 fps! Isn't it a better card? Were you like standing still looking at a wall?

Awww that kinds makes me sad when you think about it, that games won't require any more power, but then again, they will always be finding ways to make things faster and more efficient, just wait till we have octo core processors haha.....

And low-end power supplies.......And low-end Graphics......... And low-end Cases............And low-end stock heat sinks...... ...........Yeah, just build your own........

How come you need to do that? It is possible, but you would lagg a lot and stuff because of the limited transfer rate of USB and Firewire ports, they aren't made for gaming.

Alright, I get to order at the end of the month I know this is kind of off topic, but if you can't overclock thru the BIOS, is clockgen a good program? Because I just went from 2.6 GHZ to 3.0 GHZ and I'm not sure if it worked, but I think it did because CPU-Z reports my processor as 3.0010 on the taskbar when I minimize it.

Ahh double post, internet lagged when I submitted..... >. Also Shadow, in that pic, is that heatsink sticking out to the left of the mobo (not the one sitting on the table) just the little tiny one. Is that part of the main thing? Thats crazy.

Lol personally I dont give a shit about looks, just how well it performs, and in the case of fans, sounds. Anyway, which cpu cooler of those would you reccommend the most? I didn't really look at all of them, but I'm hoping that the most expensive one isn't the best. If it is, whats a good runner-up thats a lot cheaper, but almost as good? Please ask if my question doesn't make any sense. Or should I just stick with the Vertical Noctua, not the horizontal one, I heard it didn't work as good. I was watching a video on it and they said it has some special oil bearing in the fan so it is quieter and lasts longer. Also the fans' fins have like bevels on them that do something to make the airflow waaay better.

Ok my bad, forgot he was in UK. I wonder if any of those pcs would be on those websites though, I'll check. Also forgot it was pounds, lol I wasn't even thinking. So that's like $815 right?

So I take it you dont need, speakers, mouse, or keyboard either? Well this one comes with all 3 lol, but its still pretty good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113094 and with the $100 you could get a better videocard for it. I'll keep looking though. EDIT: If you don't mind AMD, you could get one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229091 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229100

I know but I figured its $3, why the fuck not? Don't wanna fuck up my first rig, lol I don't think it's that big of a deal. I told my dad the same shit about the mac and its bullshit cuz now she has 2 new comps and I'm still using this old one. He agreed with me and let me go with the i7 rig, for now im using a HD 4670 to hold me over until I can get a better card, once I get the better card, I can pass the 4670 to this computer I'm on now to help it out. I guess I can go with that $50 Master Cooler case, I just wanted the HAF cuz I heard really good things aboiut its airflow, because I am going to be overclocking, and I can't afford liquid cooling, so I wanted the best air rig possible. How far do you think overclocking that i7 would be safe? I wanted to go at least like 3.25GHz...4 GHz would be my goal obviously lol. You're right, I was being a little ignorant because I could just get a cheaper case and put my own fans in. I think I will get the sound card later down the road. Will the Noctua fit in the mid tower? Thats why I was going with a full tower, because I didn't wanna get fucked with anything not fitting. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/07/07/review_accessory_cpu_coolers/page6.html Just looking at that review, what do you think about the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme or the Akasa Nero compared to the Noctua?

I fixed the link, and I thought you could install xp on as many computers as you wanted altough technically you are not supposed to. I hope you are wrong lol otherwise....linux anyone? lol Fuck that, linux supports like no games right?

well my bro just totaled his car and now, I don't even know if I'm getting a computer. cuz my sis needs a new mac for one of her college classes which is bullshit, I'll have to ask her about that, because when I was trying to build a computer before, she had to get the computer she got now so I can't I went down to a $1000 budget to make it more appealing to the parental units.... Sorry for the small pic.... Just hit full size http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Alex_/?action=view&current=list.jpg Sorry for using a picture, but I'm just too stressed out right now to edit all of the links and shit, cuz this site only allows 600x600 which I understand, I would make the list public on newegg but I have to wait for it to be approved Yes, I had to go to DDR2 The only thing I dont have on the list is a video card, because im getting a 4670 to hold me over until I can save for a GTX 275 or something It's everything except an OS because my dad has a copy of XP 32, you can install it on more than one pc right?

Ok, do you think the OCZ Ram and the Samsung Hard Drive I posted are still good replacements for what you suggested? They are the same thing spec-wise im pretty sure, just wondering what you think about those brands. I know OCZ makes good ram and Samsung is a big name so I don't think they would make bad hard drives. I can't wait till the Solid State Drives get cheaper........

Also Shadow I will wait for the Windows 7 Beta, for now I will have to use Windows XP 32 Home because I'm not gonna waste $100-$150 on Vista, Problem is, how can I easily upgrade it to the Windows 7 when it comes out? I suppose I could back up my stuff on an external hard drive or something....

Thats what I was thinking too, they looked like they would do better with heat looking at the picture, but that's just me, lol.

Just wondering what it the difference between these two DDR3 Ram kits, and which one is better. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10009623&prodlist=celebros http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010032&prodlist=celebros I was considering getting one of these because all of the cheaper 6GB kits are out of stock, and if anyone can tell me if OCZ makes good ram? EDIT: I guess they are just the same thing, just different shells because they have the same model number.

How big do crts get? Most I've seen are only like 14 inch because its standard I guess, if you wanted a bigger one, how much would it cost? Also, Shadow I picked almost identical parts of your build except i changed the RAM to OCZ OCZ3X1600LV6GK 6GB PC3-12800+ (DDR3-1600+) Triple Channel Memory Retail And the Hard Drive to SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750GB SATA 7200 RPM 32MB Buffer Hard Drive Bulk As you can probably tell I was looking on ZZF and also getting the PSU and Motherboard through them ASUS P6T SE Intel X58 Core i7 Extreme/Core i7 Socket 1366 PC3-16000 (DDR3-2000) ATX Motherboard Retail CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W SLI/CrossFire Active Power Supply Retail Altogether I can save like $50 if that matters :/ unless you think Samsung or OCZ sucks. Also I would prob save more if i used ZZF cuz they have free ship so maybe like $75 cheaper. What do you think?

Could you show me any good LCDs that you find? I don't really wanna spend more than $200 on a monitor. I would get a CRT, but I would have trouble finding one locally, and paying $50 to ship one isn't cool...

Ok, I know you were saying how CRTs can be better, my dad has tons of old ones laying around, problem is, I don't know how good they are or how high the resolutions go, the one I am using right now goes to 1024 x 768 (lol). If I go any higher it says out of range which sucked the first time it happened because I had to manually go in and change the resolution back to default for the game because it just said out of range. They shouild put a 10 second thing to click ok because that was a pain. So I think it is the monitor, but it could also be the limit of my video card (Nvidia 6800 GTX ) Also, I see where you are going with aspect ratio, but I thought max resolution was also important isnt it? Because I see monitors that are 16:10, but the max. resolution is only like 1680 x 1050

Alright, lemme know about what monitors you can get. I'm more concerned about max resolution (like how good it looks) rather than size. But I don't really wanna go much lower than 21-21.5 inches, also I'm not sure about getting a wide-screen, they just seem weird to me. For now tho, im logging off, its 3 AM and I need some sleep, I'll check this thread tomorrow, thanks.

Shadow, Newegg also sells the Noctua Heatsink you reccommended, shouldn't I just buy it on Newegg to be easier? Also, what's your opinion on brands of graphics cards, like EVGA, BFG, XFX, Sparkle, like what have you had the best experiences with? I'm getting that XFX one you posted, because it's cheaper than the EVGA one and comes with 2 free games instead of 1. Nice find. And Akaru, the monitor I'm gonna get is (click link) :Acer X233Hbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor For $189.99 Also, I'm just gonna go with Windows 7 I was thinking of getting this Vista Home Premium, but it comes with a free coupon to upgrade to Windows 7 Windows Vista 64 bit with free coupon to upgrade to Windows 7 I don't know if I should get that, or just wait till Windows 7 comes out, because I would rather have the Windows 7 disc itself in case I need to re-intstall, because I don't wanna get screwed if the coupon only works once.

Yeah I'm going to be keeping this computer for a long time, so I might as well go new so it lasts. I'm going to overclock when the time comes so thats why I wanted good paste, heatsink, fan, and case. Is that mobo you suggested shadow handle overclocks good and stable? That's all I'm worried about is that I just need this thing to last me as long as possible. I don't think I will be doing SLI because a lot of people say that's its better to just get a better video card. I'll get that soundcard when I get more $$$$, but for now I'll use that money on the network card. Thanks for all of the help guys. I'll go with your suggestions then shadow. So a grain of rice of paste will be enough to completely cover it, but not overflow?

Okay, I was just gonna go with a dual core, and use an awesome case (Coolermaster HAF) and a good cpu fan, and just overclock it once I need to.

Sorry for posting so late, my internet has been down, sorry. Okay Shadow a couple things first, I didn't pick things that were shiny, I based most of the choices on how good the reviews were, isn't that what I should be doing? Second, I know its newer technology, but is an i7 cpu really gonna be better for gaming? I thought there were even few games out today that can use more than 2 cores let alone 4. Also, I have no experience with this, but I don't think I really will need a sound card, I would rather spend that money on a wireless card and high range antennae to go with it, because for now, yes (q.q) I have to use wireless internet because my mom isn't cool with me putting an ethernet cord through the ceiling. And Akaru, I went with OCZ-COOL paste because a lot of people were saying that it is better than MX-2, but if you say so, I can go with MX-2. I'm not even close to ordering anything yet though just to let you know, but thanks for all of the help.