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kable795 #NA1 @Alex EDIT: you can put me down for both if you need to fill in spots.

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@rouxBack ups on the way my main man we got you homie.

Because this game isn't black and white dumb dumb. Your kreig isn't gonna beat my mag7 point blank unless you hit the first bullet and i barely even have to aim or be standing still. Its got the highest DPS potential but that doesn't mean its the best weapon in the game. That is subjective there is no best weapon in the game, its preferential towards your play style. If your gonna say that its OP because it can hold angles the recoil while scoped in is worse then any gun that you can buy right now if you don't hit that first bullet you dead to a competent awper. But my troll is full now so you can stop feeding into me. You can think its the best weapon or that it makes things unfair and thats the handicap or line of thinking you need to sleep at night and thats fine. I mean really if you wanna argue pure stats the negev is like what 2200$ and has like 150 bullets in a clip and one of the highest fire rates and one of the highest first bullet accuracies in the game with an easy to maintain recoil that turns it into a fucking laser beam. If your gonna go by DPS potential krieg is garbage compared to machine guns. WHy is the kriegs armor pen stats and rate of fire stat more relevant then the size of the clip we all know you miss more shots then you hit a bigger clip would do you good. Anyways thanks for the entertainment @Trazz you can close this one up chief.

Its has more recoil and is harder to control than the AK. AK has better first bullet accuracy. You move faster with the AK making you more mobile than you are with a krieg. I'm still searching for the statistics that prove the kreig is the best weapon like you said?

Well since you won't provide any stats I will Real popular weapon you got there so overpowered. Source: https://www.hltv.org/stats Make sure you have stats to back up when you use bold, all caps, italics, and underline the word statistically cause now unless you give me a link you just look like a dumb ass who spews garbage out of his mouth cause it sounds good.

Again, link me to the stats that definitively prove the krieg is according to you "STATISTICALLY THE BEST WEAPON IN THE GAME"

Awp has 100% armor piercing, more damage than an AK, has a scope, one shot head shot, one shot body shot most of the time. I would say your stats are heavily skewed to suit your argument.

Can you link me to the stats that says its the best gun in the game?

Yup after playing 2 maps I can tell you the problem aint kriegs its the players. Also to what @EvilEye said literally most of the time i was CT and lost was because I blinked and the ts had pushed up and killed every CT. Not one waited even 5 seconds to see if someone would push but then would you know it i flashed the aggresive angle and my team would come out on top.

All good mate, your context is the issue. The gun itself is not OP, your current retakes meta blows and nobody is good enough to be able to counter a raw team of 5 people with kriegs. Id rather see someone say that then pretend like the gun is so OP yet theres a franchised league and TO that shell out millions of dollars in prize pool to keep the game relevant with such a broken gun that it can bring you from zero to hero. I don't care if you guys remove the krieg or lower the amount available or give everyone dualies for that matter. The gun is not so OP that it turns someone into a god at the game. There are plenty of counter smokes you can use to counter a krieg angle and then trade out the second one watching the same angle. Its a team game theres a reason you can't just run out and matrix into the site and kill everyone while dodging all their bullets. In most retake scenarios to be fair, CTs don't even have the utility you are given in retakes. Its all used to delay the site take.

Okay so again, the gun is not OP. Your just bad. You have other people playing for themselves, thats not the gun being overpowered thats your team being below average. If I go play silver MM I don't think it matters what gun I use or how many people are looking at an angle they barely know how to use a keyboard in that skill rank. Why would anyone listen to them when they say something is overpowered or not? Same thing applies here. I'll almost bet the majority of you complaining right now would go onto esea and be C rank and no krieg is gonna save you from that. I'm A rank on esea and I never use the krieg, are you using that the gun is so OP that by just me getting the krieg in my hand ill get to S rank in to time. Because I mean like you said the gun is so OP so if its OP in your hands and against you then the same would have to apply to everyone else in the game right? You see the difference so much because at the bottom of the barrel theres no where to go but up. People at low ranks say the awp is OP as fuck to but if you know the slightest thing about CS you'd know thats not true. Again it aint the gun its the player. EDIT: @EvilEye I'm sorry I must have forgotten that a pug is 5 random people playing executes and retakes depending on if the bomb is down or not. Save your whiny little rant you blow kid. Also if any of you morons think my best 5 is cooridinated or organized your dumb. @HAXOR is my best 5 coordinated or organized in any sense of the word? Or do you think we spend all game trolling each other and we are just 5 people who aren't retards and know how to play the game without having to pretend like its ESL New York

I don't evenike this guy but he gets it

So because people are bad the guns OP? If I got my best 5 on retakes we ain't all gonna die and lose the round cause some smokes went off and the other players have kriegs. It's fair. The gap in skill makes it seem not fair but that would be admitting that it's a skill thing not a fairness thing. If the gun truly was not fair valve would have done something about it. It has its advantages and drawbacks like any other gun. If Im on mirage with a mag7 and I smoke apartments and 4 dumb ass retard people walk through it and all get nagged is the mag and the smoke now unfair or are those 4 people just retarded?

Don't worry I won't try to convince you. Stupid is as stupid does. Your entitled to your opinion even though it's wrong. Is it a powerful weapon in the current meta yes. So was the r8 when. It came out and it got nerfed in a day because it was btoken. Krieg isn't broken you just don't know how to adapt. Here's a pro tip, jiggle peek, find krieg location, throw blinding flash for teammate and trade him. Your own ego that thinks "no way it's me it's the gun" is your problem. Unless your global mm, A+ on esea and rank 10 faceit you'll never be able to convince me your opinion is valid. Also saying I've used the krieg for two years, 2 years ago nobody touched the krieg unless you were in sub DMG tier and if that's what you call "experience playing against the krieg" then my friend you have no experience playing against someone else who knows how to use the krieg

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Because people play for millions of dollars and are often in the same situation your complaining about. Again it's the player not the gun. Practice so you don't have to spray n pray learn to jiggle peek so that when you hear them shoot you can take the angle while the gun readjusts to normal recoil and when they repeak you can double tap them. You don't understand the game as well as you think you do cause you pop off every now and then on MM or SG scrim Also you earn the right to complain about unbalanced weapons when you hit high tier and everyone's aim is the same. Something tells me your not going 39-11 against Navi if they all have m4s and you have a krieg. How you explain me @Noob^ @Malibu @MTH all dunking on you with mag7s and shit they arent balanced and are much less powerful then an ak krieg or m4 yet you can go find a demo of us literally dumping on kids with zeus. Game ain't all about aim and neither is a retake.

One question, what are you gonna do in a real game where one smoke forces your whole team to funnel in one chokepoint? Just gonna call it quits cause it's OP? Ive said it before and I'll say it again, you don't know how to play cs if one smoke throws your entire game off and makes it a throw away round. Throw a flash for a teammate, communicate, make the first move so the smoke can't fuck you. There's so many things you can do but saying the weapon is causing unfairness is ridiculous. For 20 years the AK one tapped while the m4 didn't it ain't the gun it's the player.

Fucking thank you Jesus Christ I thought I was gonna have to say it in a much ruder tone.

Thank you Mr. Schiff it's all cleared up now carry on (:

Discuss what? ATs and CAs need to define what a special order is as soon as thata done this thread is irrelevant I really don't understand what is so hard to understand after the clear cut answer that was given. I'm not trying to be a dick but I don't understand what the issue is. Dropping a gun isn't a special order to begin with it's a normal order anyone that's got 2 brain cells would make. So that answers the threads question. At this point a thread oriented around what exactly is a special order is what needs to be made.

Can you guys read? Special orders don't exist it's a made up term that you all follow blindly. It's not defined anywhere Source: 3 posts ago and my ability to read the English language

congrats my main fuckin man @roux