awesomebillfromdawsonvile

While ranking brings more ppl to the ct team, they tend to be crappy rank whores, who dont give orders and just look for an excuse to get points. Its also just encouraging ct to use lethal force when its not really needed. Ive always tried to kill as few ts as possible. In meat space prison guards are not given raises based on how many prisoners they kill. Why should cyber be any different? When Im 1 on 1 with a rebeling unarmed t I try to force them to comply with out killing them. Most cts, even good cts, will just kill them because they need the points. If anything, rank should only be enabled for ts. It actually helps the t team out quite a bit. B4 rank there were alot more chumps who would just wait the whole round out then ask for an lr.Now the ts spend more time rebeling. So please kill ct ranks, its just doesn't make sense, maybe for a death match server or normal cs, but its just stupid for pb ct teams.

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Its one of the unclear parts of this rule list as one part says "- Guards can kill prisoners for directly disobeying an order (E.g. running somewhere other than where ordered to go)." and another part says "- Guards must give warning shots for non-threatening behaviour (E.g. standing up when told to crouch).". So this kinda implies that you can indeed kill them if they dont follow your be in cage by 10 sec rule. It also kinda implies that if you find them you should warning shot, and give them a chance to comply first. Really though, it does not imply it simply contradicts itself. No offense crimson, but this part is really unclear. I know its hard to think of a rule list for something as complex as pb, and thats why we are having these little group discussions. Oh and as b4 primary should = autokill. Still way more important than anything else on the list. This would be a huge head ache if it were revoked.

You know spartan told me the same thing about my map. Ive asked around b4 about max map size for the servers and the only response Ive received is that we have fast dl servers so map size should not be a problem. Granted this was a year of so ago back when napalm was still popular(my map was about 50mb). Anyways, how long would it really take ppl to dl a map this size? also karni, im not sure, but i think one of the reasons that my current pb map was so big, is because the music files are so big. Maybe, if map size is a problem, you can try making your music files smaller? B4 to long im going to re sample all of the music files in mono as opposed to stereo to perhaps you could try the same?

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Anyone who is enough of a bitch, to just stand there in plain view and pretend to be afk should be shot dead. I for one always hide in my cell, I try to crouch in a corner and stay out of ct sight. But the moment Im discovered I always comply and never fake any afk bs. When they find me its pretty obvious that im not afk as Im usually crouching on the toilet in the back corner of the cell. Pretending to be afk = cheating

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another point, the only reason ts give up pistols is because they know they cant kill anyone with them once they have been found out. If they have a primary, they know they have a pretty decent chance of getting of a lethal shot, so they would and are way more likely to open fire. Sometimes I like to try and warn armed ts that I take from behind, but they almost always try to open fire even when they really dont have a shot. Why? Because they know that primary is their best chance for win and giving it up can be like giving up your only chance for the round. Point being, Ts are WAY more likely to give up a pistol as opposed to a primary rifle. The exception to this of course is ts who catch a dead ts gun by accident and instantly drop it so as not to be shot, but thats very different from someone going out of their way to pick up a primary.

Ha Ha! Did not even consider razor in this. I came out of the armory today and there were ts on all sides of me with automatic weapons. Enough primaries for all! Would be hell with out the auto kill for rifles rule.

This is standard disarming procedure right here. The point is that in a split sec they can wheel around on you and start shooting. If it were a pistol, and he has guns drawn on him, he prlly wont kill anyone, but he will get off a few shots every time, should he choose to fire. If this were a primary instead of a pistol, its way more likely that they will manage to take some one with them b4 they die, thus leading to 2 guns sitting out waiting for the ts to grab em. Like i said it takes a fraction of a sec to wheel around and start spraying, and its much easier to get that lucky head shot with a fully automatic rifle. This rule WILL change the server if it goes through, and will make things alot easier on the ts. also you had this to say, Well to be honest, if they got it by rebelling, then you can kill them for rebelling, but I do know people have gone afk next to rebelling people and it has fallen on them. And if they don't have auto switch to most powerful weapon on then they have a chance to never know they have it. __________________ Straight up, thats their problem. They change that option so they can be sneaky, not knowing that they are armed is the price they pay. Ive had ppl stand there and argue with me that they dont have a gun, and half the time when they do finally check they shoot me with it. Thats bullshit right there. If they cant take the time to know if they are armed or not, then they should not change this setting. Its way to much of a head ache to argue with some one about the gun they think they dont have. Madd, that one rule changes the game. If you voted yes then you voted for it as well as all the other rules. If you dont agree with one of the rules you are supposed to vote no, and then give a reason why. You should have voted no, and then said "I voted no because i think most of the rules are good, but the primary one needs to change" or something along those line. You see madd, I believe as you that most of the rules are good, but that one needs changed. If you want that one changed you have to vote it all down, or it will ride along with the rest of them and get passed.

well damit dogg, you should have voted no if you did not agree with that one rule. voting yes means you ok with the whole thing. Many times with these votes, no one seems to care what footliners you add to your vote, they only care how you vote. Right now the vote says 20-8 in favor of the rules posted. The vote says nothing about "yes but change that one rule" it says yes or no. Not trying to be a dick mad dogg, I just dont want to see the auto kill for primary rule revoked, as it will be next to impossible to deal with.

then you voted no right? I see way to many yes votes for the no auto kill for primary rule being slipped in. thats a major change to pb.

Just like IJ says, having a primary should mean death. Its practically rebeling already. I dont mind asking someone to drop a holstered pistol if I have them dead to rights, but with a primary they have a very real chance of killing me or a fellow t in the split second it takes them to unholster the gun and drop it. Primary guns = death, thats the way its all ways been, thats the way it should stay. Also on a lesser note, what happend to warning shots? Did i not see that on the rules? If warning shots are needed still then the line of "- Guards can kill prisoners for directly disobeying an order (E.g. running somewhere other than where ordered to go)." still needs some clarification as it implies that warning shots are not needed for this. But I could care less about that really. Required warning for primary weapons is a bad idea, most ts with primary have been to ct only areas or killed a ct themselves, it should be common knowledge, ts who pick up primary weapons are planing on rebelling. Required warnings for rifles would be a MAJOR head ache, and would make things alot harder for cts. I think the recent additions of jihad mod and warningshots make the cts job hard enough already. Also, I suppose you added this rule so ppl who catch the gun of the guy who just died right next to them dont get shot right away. I always give these ppl a chance to drop the gun, But if they so much as twitch with it i kill them. This is the kind of case that, shitty as it may be, needs to be left up to ct discretion of the cts. This problem can also be solved by the ts themselves. If they see a t with a gun, get the hell away from them. If you want to hang out and be a meat shield for them, then you need to be prepared to get shot. And if the person your shielding dies, and you catch their gun,(accident or no) its hardly the cts fault if he flips and kills you as well.

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Yeah the map is just a super beta, me trying to use to many custom files caused many textures and such to not get packed in. As i said its just a beta, and i wanted to see some play b4 i fixed that stuff, Ive worked on the map for over a year with out playing on it. The stuff that interest me is you saying that my textures leaked out into the void? i detected no leaks in the map. If you could be more specific about this, maybe include a pic so i know what to fix. Also i spent alot of time optimizing this map, my frame rate seems good and only drops in one or 2 spots, everywhere no draw could be used it was, as well as portals hints and such. Also you say some buttons dont work, exactly what buttons are you talking about? All the buttons should work but i did go slighty over entity data limit (100.3% i belive) so its possible. Actually now that I think about it you were prlly talking about disco right? Disco is a pretty bugged because like I said, I tried to put to many custom files into the map, so pakrat just dropped most of the music files and some of the textures. All of these problems are just cosmetic, so I went ahead and released it for beta testing, as I really need to test out how the map actually plays, so I can know what to fix gameplay wise. The ladder you speak of is actually a door, and its supposed to make sure ppl stay in the pit once in. There is a secret way out as well as the "pussy out" buttons that tele you to the pussy box and heal you, its quite possible that you could not see the textures above the buttons as it may have been one of the broken textures. So all that being said, can I expect to see some testing? Or do i need to fix my textures and song files before its added? Oh yeah one more thing, you said that the map was a bit big. Did you notice that half the map stays locked most of the time? 1 in 4 chance that the main side of the map locks itself and the other side opens up, soccer day! This all happens at the start of the round, so the 2 parts of the map are never open at the same time.

will do spartan, thanks for the head up.

This is a different issue now, but I deal with this all day as well. I stop a runner with a warning shot, and he turns around and goes where hes ordered, and beelines for the back of a ct, in full open view of me. warning shots to the legs do not stop ppl here. I always wind up killing them after they kill my fellow ct. But like i said, thats a different issue. I would be happy if the ts would just stop crying out free shot! every time i give them a warning shot for not following orders.

I Always give them a reason, its just in text because I have no mic. They ignore the orders to go where they are told and then they bitch when they get warning shots. I do NOT have to back up every warning shot with a verbal or text command that repeats the orders that have already been given. That would be fucking retarded, and you ts who are complaining about it every round are abusing the new rule. You ts need to accept that you will be shot if you are not following orders. If you do not want to comply with the orders given to you, then stop bitching every time you catch a warning shot.

I think some form of downloading is working for the pb server, as I was able to download a map from there today. So just in case anyone starts posting maps again, I thought I would post a fresh link for my map because that old link has expired by now. http://www.rapidshare.com/files/347569362/ba_chadelamAKAthe_grinder_b1.bsp.html

and the ts bitch about it and try to stop the whole round, while they bitch about being free shot. I think thats the point of this post, no ones unclear about what warning shots are, the problem is that ts need to stop bitching when they get get em

this right here all day long, half the ppl who get warning shots bitch about being "freeshot" whatever the fuck that means.