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Pixelmon What is Pixelmon? A thrilling mix of Minecraft + Pokémon. Capture & Train your favorite Pokémon in Minecraft. Battle & Explore vast new worlds with friends. Become a Master in this unique Minecraft mod experience. We will be running the server for about a week so make sure to join while its open! How to Join Ready to embark on your Pixelmon journey with us? Follow these simple steps to join the server and dive into the fun: Step 1: Install Pixelmon (VERSION 1.16.5 9.1.10) Ensure you have version 1.16.5 of Minecraft installed. Then, download and install the Pixelmon mod from official Pixelmon mod website. Make sure you select the 1.16.5 version. Full installation tutorial available on the wiki (I recommend Curseforge) where a video is also available. Step 1.5 (Optional) Install Proximity Chat Mod: Simple Voice Chat (Version 2.4.32) Step 2: Launch Minecraft Open Minecraft and switch your profile to the Pixelmon version. Hit 'Play' to launch the game with the mod enabled. Step 3: Join Our Server Once in Minecraft: Select 'Multiplayer' Click 'Add Server' In the 'Server Name' field, type: SG Pixelmon In the 'Server Address' field, enter: 147.135.85.67 Hit 'Done', then select our server from the list and click 'Join Server' Step 4: Dive Into Adventure Congratulations, you've made it! Explore, catch Pixelmon, and participate in events to make your mark in the Pixelmon world. Use Commands like /claim to claim land and disallow other's from stealing your items! Useful Commands /claim - claim your land/items! /rtp - Teleport somewhere random /tpa - Request to teleport to another player /tpaccept, /tpdeny - Accept and Deny tpa requests /home - Utilize homes Need Help? If you encounter any issues joining the server or have questions, don't hesitate to reach out. We're here to ensure your adventure starts smoothly! Let's make this spring break unforgettable with epic battles, rare catches, and new friendships! See you in the game! Thank you Acer for the hard work on the server!!

Hi gamers, We now have our BHOP and Retakes Server up! Connect to BHOP via: bhop.steam-gamers.net This server will be primarily handled Karma, and Jazzy helping add maps, staging, and general quality of life updates for timer improvements. Connect to Retakes via: retakes.steam-gamers.net This server will be primarily handled Jazzy, helping curate spawns and weapon guidelines. If you have any issues, please feel free to post in the Discord retakes channel or in the forums on recommendations for changes! Once again another huge round of thanks to to Nishok (the absolute GOAT), BoTo for working on helping get the servers going after troubleshooting various items as we worked to launch these servers. As we continue to roll out more servers, please join discord and provide suggestions, comments, or concerns! https://discord.gg/steamgamers

Surf Map Rotation Below is the current map rotation for the Surf server, current as the date shown below. Use !rtv and !nominate to change the map surf_ace surf_atrium surf_beginner surf_benevolent surf_boreas surf_deathstar surf_gleam2 surf_kitsune surf_lockdown surf_nyx surf_salvador surf_saturday surf_utopia_njv

Surf Server Rules & Commands Connect: connect surf.steam-gamers.net Server Rules Respect all players. No racism, homophobia, or bigotry of any kind. No spamming of any kind. No advertising other servers, clans, or websites. Do not abuse the !calladmin command to report players for fake reasons. No cheating, exploiting, hacking, or scripting of any kind. Commands !rtv - Rocks the vote !nominate - Nominates a map from a list the user accesses via chat !r - Teleports the player back to Spawn !rb - Teleports the player to a Bonus Spawn !top - Prints the top 10 times on the current map !topbonus - Prints the top 10 bonus times on the current map !rank - Tells you your rank on the current map !sr - Tells you the current server record of the map !hud - Hides the Timer HUD !keys - Hides the HUD Keys !azerty - Changes Key Layout to Azerty on the HUD !cp - Sets a checkpoint !tp - Teleports the player to the latest checkpoint !prevcp - Teleports the player to the previous checkpoint !nextcp - Teleports the player to the previous checkpoint !timer - Stops timer and blocks it from starting !goto - Teleports the player to another player by name !stage - Teleports the player to a stage by index !sthelp - Prints commdands for player !stver - Prints the current plugin version

Barring the CN servers the only USA server populated is GFL because GFL has developers actively working on CS2Fixes which is basically 40% ZE plugin 60% QoL/bug fix/etc. Credit where credit is due GFL has invested colossal time and effort to try and make ZE work in CS2 but the reality is the game is massively broken, basically 80% of all csgo maps remain in an unported or ported in broken state. Many maps remain unbeatable especially the more complicated ones. Frostdrake was finally beat like a week ago after having been out for 2+ months though I think the boss fight has consistently had issues. tracktrain still suffers from issues depending on how complicated it is built in the map. Not trying to sound pessimistic about it but it's in a tough state even on GFL with the amount of herculean effort they've put in. It does not feel super great to play and lacks a lot of quality of life CSS/CSGO had. Don't want to say ZE would ever be out of the question, we do technically have a server up for it, but I personally feel the capacity for me to play would be based solely on the idea of a specific event to try and beat some maps and sweat hard. Casually the map pool at this point is pretty basic. Before CS2 dropped we had a ZE server and tried to make effort into seeding but it didn't go very far. Post CS2 we had a test server a few times but it suffered from crazy amounts of client crashes. It does not help the frequency at which Valve updates CS2 causing breaking issues, for instance !hide is now broken in GFL's server because of client crashes. Love ZE, want to do it, but every time I've gotten on GFL's CS2ZE server I just gag and have the urge to just go play on nide at that point.

2/4/24: Added surf_lockdown L B2 (Tier 2) Added surf_saturday L B2 (Tier 2)

2/1/24: Added surf_atrium (Tier 1) Replays - type !replaypb, or !replaytop TopNumber to watch replays. Please note only records after today will have replays Added new RTV plugin with end of map voting. Nominations will be supported soon, but when rtv or end map vote happens, you can vote for all maps on the server currently. New RTV plugin has Tier listings in vote menu to let you know how hard the map is !rs for reset stage is enabled !fov 0-140 command for adjusting field of view Disable dropknife to prevent hitting 260u/s (cap at 250u/s on knife to make it equal and not people worrying about dropping knife) Hopefully crash fixes triou’s Note: To clarify, the surf server transitioned to cs2 back in 1/10/24 and all changelogs after the date is on cs2.

Deweese has been permanently banned for racism. I wanted to take this time to specify that regardless of if you are shitposting ironically, continually sharing racist 'memes' in the discord, spraying racist sprays in the server, and referencing racist dogwhistles is not part of what SG is about. We are a gaming community first and although politics discussion has always been a part of SG, it's important to separate what is political and what is purely racist. Hopping on TTT and referencing things like 13/52 just breeds racist toxicity we have no interest in allowing. It does not matter if you are joking or not, we have zero tolerance for this behavior and have a vested interest in keeping this community inclusive for people of all races. We hope this serves as a reminder to people that this behavior is not going to be tolerated.

couldn't have done it without the guy who made the surf/pb server, @Elfbarf (this is a meme guys please lord stop thinking i did anything for ttt) you're legally obligated to come back now

LET'S GOOOOO

which usb ports work, the ones directly connected to the motherboard or ones that are at the front of the case?

It's hard to believe it's been almost a year in review for me. I do even more coding now than I did back in February, and I'll admit I get too invested in the "workflow" part and not the "work" part at times. Today as of writing I'm using neovim (mainly lazyvim with some modifications) and tmux to really build out an IDE. I've mostly given up on emacs just because I was tired of trying to deal with lisp to do what I want, though I do miss magit especially these days, but I'm still usually using version control by myself for my side hobbies and main work, so having a really robust git client isn't necessary and I do 99% of what I want in CLI, with a tiny bit of lazygit (mainly to quickly run over old commit changes) and an even tinier bit of using the web interface for github and azure devops. I ran with VSCode and relevant plugins for some time but just found it too irritating and a total break away from what I expect of an environment. Theme: carbonfox (nightfox color scheme), font is iosevka mono term nerdfont Terminal is alacritty on macOS Pictured above a random terraform cloud project I was deploying the other day. I love tmux because it lets me split panes, make tabs, and keep persistency. I will admit the drawbacks with it can be annoying (lack of ligatures, images in TUI's, etc) as well as some odd inconsistencies with how modifier keys are passed that I worked around can be frustrating. Mainly when I'm working with networking gear (especially older) that can be a point of frustration to use tmux. I will admit I'm thinking more and more of moving out from tmux 24/7 and only using it when I really need the persistency. Neovim with Lazyvim is great. It's quite heavy and that's been part of my annoyance with it lately, as I'm using well over 70 plugins now. It's still very fast, but with the consistent updates to the plugins there can be issues. Vim motions are really what I strive for these days in an editor so if it doesn't natively support something similar, I don't look at it. Lately I've been looking at rust native apps like helix as a replacement for neovim. I will admit I'm interested in it, and will try to play more. Helix is quite new and I'm slightly interested in learning rust more so might try to help contribute. Would love to see a plugin ecosystem on helix to fix some minor problems I have. I hope in next year I have an even better workflow that fits what I'm trying to achieve in my career and side projects. I have loved trying out and customizing new things, but will admit life gets in the way of ricing everything all the time, so sometimes stuff like helix is very enticing to have a "sane" app that just works out of the box without hours of tinkering.

every time you joined vc you whined about this place over the last year

we could all be in discord vc right now absolutely blasting each other

I doth not peruse such extensive scripts

Hoping to have news about the next server after surf soon guys!!!

Except you're neglecting that us having forums > discord doesn't stop this from existing. Discord still exists without our discord server or not. Saying we should focus on forums because discord players might make other discords and siphon people doesn't stop the existence of that exact problem, and in fact would probably exasperate it even worse because more people would jump into other people's discord than our own. Yeah you're just neglecting to remember that this was a massive problem regardless of how "easy" or "hard" it was. There was easily half a dozen "micro" communities in SG while I was here in 09-2014. I was in 3 of them, lmfao. Yeah and trying to ignore discord and promote forums doesn't stop this from happening, it makes it far more likely our discord will never be used. We had ~8 people in tonight playing TTT followed by Lethal Company (though we obviously mute or deafen or both ourselves due to the gameplay fundamentals with that) Delirium you are literally the definition of unwanted behavior and probably part of the reason some people have refrained from even using our primary discord since >50% of the time I see you participate somewhere you can't help but call someone retarded or refer to their ideas as retarded. I muted you for 1d just now and you literally had to run to my DM's to double down and call him retarded again. Seriously, your attitude and interactions with people are just an example of the toxicity SG represented and why these micro communities exist, so people can either avoid people like you are participate in the same behavioral traits you exhibit free of any moderator's eyes. Already explained No Delirium, I said it's ok when stuff dies, because that's a natural part of life. Nothing lasts forever. And the point I made was how important it is to enjoy your limited life. I understand you are often angry here based on my limited conversations with you, but I want you to understand that if you're coming on here and getting angry non-stop, you should stop and leave and find something that brings you joy. I turn 30 in just a few short months... I could have maybe half my life ahead of me, or more, or less.... Spending time not enjoying myself trying to be on some sort of grind that brings no pleasure is no longer what I want in life. I would love to stay here and have fun for the next 20 years of my life, but if I ever stop coming here, it's because I stopped enjoying my time here and found new places to enjoy myself. That is not to say I am complacent in any part of my life. I am not checked out, burned out, and bored. I have new challenges here and everywhere. But I also understand that anyone who comes in here who isn't excited to be here, should know that there are greener pastures out there, and better fits for them and those around them. If you think I have some "losing mentality" (your words, not mine) despite willing to write probably one of the longer posts on this forum just now in this thread, you truly are lost here. I can tell you're a very passionate individual based on how you treat others but at the end of the day if you were the smartest man in my work's department and you left for a new job because you were unhappy in your current role, I would be nothing but ecstatic for you even if it meant my department might suffer as a result. I care about the people here who come to enjoy the community portion and play on the servers, participate in the discord/forums, and who want to enjoy being here. Not the people who come here once in a blue moon to antagonize and argue (you). I hope as you reach new heights and develop new relationships you understand how fleeting this life is... That doesn't mean you shouldn't get upset or passionate. Delirium 5 days ago: don't bother with SG that place is dead Delirium a day ago: I'd demote you for being so "nihilistic" (you need to look up the definition of nihilism btw, because if you think someone saying "it's about having fun" is a nihilist, well, lol)

That's your personal opinion vs mine, Many more popular servers have landing pages and they definitely work. We need an easy way to immediately show people our discord, servers, and mainline events. Current landing doesn't solve this. If when you launch a webpage that shows a discord server with active players online, servers with (hopefully) people, and you think it's "dead" because you can't find the forums, idk bro. Think about a normal person's perspective who just plays video games and not your own. Also I wonder how many "old players" think sg is dead because they go to steamgamers.com, or have you forgotten that? Can we really say you're bothering with this place rn if all you've done in the last 2 years is post in this thread? We seed TTT almost daily and can almost always cap out 1x a week. I play like 10-15 hours a week of it. I asked in discord and it seems these accusations are not complete accurate? I think being hyperbolic to prove your argument is not something that is going to help said argument. When we try to start providing direction and saying what we want to do, you threaten to "not bother with SG" Dominic, Revenga, Karma, me all posted directions we want to take the community in regards to discord/forums. We are trying to make it better, you just disagree so you think we're making it worse. We're providing direction on where we want to take some of our "tools." I'm sure me spending my time arguing with you about it will help it recover. We want to move to discord because we actually interact and participate there, and it makes it easier for us to get things going. There are tools on there that are much better than here. Yes forums has some nice info dump potential which is why I've suggest the news/event tab which doesn't necessarily need to be backed by forums though it can, but the preference is 95% of the forum categories that are here are moved to discord. This thread has had discussions + the discord which you basically didn't participate in at all aside from last night. Read the rebrand thread dude, some people agreed it was a good idea. Just because YOU disagree doesn't make it a joke, it was worth having a conversation about, and man oh man you just dismiss everything you dislike. And accuse Dom of doing exactly that, when you do it yourself. Trying to provide direction on where to go instead of doing nothing all day. We have CS2 servers we're working on and want to expand the discord usage more and more and reduce the forums more and more. We've been actively working on that the last week and even before that when we started shifting some things around. Every post you make in this thread and in discord is shitting on the community and saying it's not like the old days. Like we're literally out here trying to baseline stuff and get going again and you're constantly shitting on everything we do. You sit here saying we have no direction. Then you say the direction is wrong. Then you say we have no leadership. Then you say the leadership doesn't listen to anything you're saying and that we only want to do our own ideas. Then you say you need to listen to the community. Then you say those other guys aren't part of the community and that you need to listen to you and a few other people in this thread. Then you ignore when people agree with me about the forums and try to fan it off You're just jumping arguments for the sake of arguing, you want to make us look bad and try to twist the argument in that direction. One page is something completely different about dom, then it's about how dom isn't around, then it's about how we don't listen, then it's about how we don't respond. I don't know what this has to do with ANYTHING in present day SG. You said it yourself people got busy and moved on. So why should we cater to people like you who slink into inactivity like yourself? Why are we trying to build a GAMING community around what you want rather than what our active playerbase wants and needs? Why are we appealing to someone who, before last night, had 15 discord messages. Who had, what, 10 posts in the last 3 years? You're not around dude, and you come back once in a blue moon to just blast us and tell us we're wrong about X, Y, Z. Shit at least delirium is around once and a while, it at least gives more credence to his arguments than yours. Most people who got permed came back, and that isn't new, that was happening 09 and onward. Shit a lot of people who got permed even back in the day got admin back over time if they were older/more mature. So which is it, we lead the place into a direction you disagree with, or get the fuck out and do it in a different community? lol Dom's last 3 threads were future plans regarding CS2 and trying other things (which we did minecraft and rust). The second thread was rebranding, which didn't go anywhere because even internally we couldn't agree. I would say I was probably the main driver outside of what discussions BD's had (i do not have access to that), but I know caution or dom had mentioned talking about it before. It was in part difficult to pick something that worked. This was posted thanksgiving weekend and I was spending holidays with my family like most people. Once I got back I ran a lethal company event that had good draw and have had 5+ people ask me to do more, and we have been playing TTT. When I finally had time, I started responding. Do some people want this thread buried? Yeah because 4-5 people proceeded to lose their mind and we locked it for what, a day? Staff have posted in this thread multiple times even after the explosion of tomfoolery. But you brought in your personal beef with Dom which seemed to be based on a lot of mischaracterizations and also 3 year old beef nobody here gives a shit about aside from people who feel spited after all these years. Brother he didn't say anything about your posts regarding criticism he just doesn't get why you are riding him so hard when you barely know him and don't actually know the fundamental details in the background. I barely know the guy and even I know this is so far from the absolute truth This is the most untrue shit I've ever seen you post thus far. I'll defer on the relevant parties to reveal those details (some were in discord), but during and after the meeting regarding the bans that were handed out from the incident involving this thread that happened mainly on discord, staff were calling out other staff on shit. Literally nothing here whatsoever has been unanimously agreed upon by staff aside from some obvious stuff. Dom is 100% not immune to criticism or disagreement at ANY time by ANYONE here. And saying otherwise without any proof is just so par for the course for you at this point. And the admins right now are some of the most active members playing on the servers as well, and I don't think any active staff really have a problem with Dom. Delirium said it himself, the community will not revive itself, we must. So we are actively pulling in new players, they do not care about Dom, nobody is begging us on TTT to get Dom to resign. This is solely the objective of you and a few select members who have basically checked out and many have self admitted in sg's discord and other discords that they no longer care about SG. Another comment with no proof or backbone, but this is par for the course for you. Dude Dom has been pretty respectful to you, but I've definitely lost my patience with you. You're utterly convinced your word is law and nobody else is right. You say that the people we pull into gmod TTT are nothing in comparison to back in the day, but they are our ACTIVE playerbase, our ACTIVE community and we are geared around them and other projects. You say we don't listen, we do. We listen to the playerbase who participates in discord, and features and asks have happened. Does that mean we agree with every suggestion ever made? Of course not. If you suggest a map on TTT and Elf denies it, does that mean he doesn't listen? Of course not, he's added many suggested maps, and the ones he doesn't like he gives criticism and explanation on. You've been given hours of my time and others time in here and in Discord and you literally just shrug it off and scream at us that we don't listen. I've provided mountains of evidence to you, mountains of proof, mountains of explanations, and you just make comments like this non stop: We advertised the forums first and changed it and that ended up working out much better for player pull/retention on our platforms. Yeah and we have plenty of old and new heads posting way more on discord too, which we already talked about in discord. Discord has people actually engaging and posting memes (including me) and discussing dumb shit, politics, etc. We are building a "new" community, but we need to actually build a hospitable discord with people in it who want to talk about something other than jank ass politics/drama. That's EXACTLY why some people were handed bans from discord/forums, because they came into discord with their baggage and started posting pictures of dogs fucking and insulting people, and discord actually maintains relatively low drama rates compared to the forum threads here. Probably because most people in discord don't carry the extreme baggage some of you guys here do. I could tell last night you tried to fish on why BR got banned and you first tried to minimize it and say "well it's not that big of a deal" then when I added more context you said "seems like a pretty complex story" when it really was not. It was not complicated or nuanced whatsoever. Discord comments: We used to link the forums in the server hostname for gmod ttt for many months and found better reception changing it to discord. Spiritwind OPENLY admits he's inactive here, doesn't participate, and has left due to mismanagement before. The people who are here, who participate are in discord, already, they're over there. Ejivis is one of the people saying leave the forums alone and he is far, far more active in discord than the forums. Why? Because the rest of us use discord, because we prefer using discord, because discord has way more cooler features and way more active interaction. I also just love this "common knowledge" trope. Spiritwind called our usage of discord a "fancy shoutbox" like use discord for more than 30 minutes and you'll realize how absolutely nice it is to use. You can play a CS clone with your friends in vc on discord. fancy shoutbox? It's like calling a computer a fancy newspaper Spiritwind said things on discord like "if we all used shoutbox, all the fanboys would use it" does anyone reading this ACTUALLY believe statements like this that we would have even remotely as much interaction with anyone on sb over discord? Shoutbox BLOWS dude. You literally called Foz a bot because he issued bot commands. You don't even know one of our more active members who still does mapping for our TTT server. You're literally so detached from this place you think one of our members is a BOT. I'm responding to this in a completely separate post because it will be a bit longer (actually just edited this post below) Data management? What? Providing information is done in strict #info channels or pinning messages in thread channels, or prompts via new user joins, as well as on demand pinging of roles/groups There's nothing disorganized about discord in comparison to the forums. channels, categories, they're all relatively the same thing. Walls of information makes no sense. It's really not that disorganized or "overwhelming" lol, I don't know what you're talking about especially after karma's changes. Useless bot spam is kept in #bots aside from dyno spam warnings iirc Does not stand out yet we had forums when every community had forums. Discord is federated in the sense all communities can leverage the same accounts so it's easier for users to jump between communities. We want users to maintain mobility because mobility helps us just as much as anyone else. You and/or delirium think because users can easily have new standup discords, it's a bad thing. It's the opposite, having the ability for users to quickly join discords and chat means we can get them hooked with our community with our special sauce. Can they leave just as easily? Of course, and that's totally fine. We don't want users to feel restricted or require they join, we want them to come play because they enjoy playing here, and stay here as a result. Useless donations - and the forums have...? Google SEO, who gives a fuck lol. Discord has public servers and if we can start ranking higher you literally just start getting flyby people who look because of logo/description/member count. Email gathering? When the fuck has SG ever sent an email out? User retention? They can stay in the discord and potentially come back any time. Everytime they open discord, assuming they do not leave the server, we will be one or two clicks away from them viewing our content. Looks professional? Are we trying to impress some businessmen in suits? Should I show my boss this site? Sets us aside from who? Google SEO and search result potential to find what, maybe our old domain steamgamers.com or maybe our new domain if they assume it's not a steam scam website like the 900 million various of steamgames4u? You can track servers on discord, lol Realistic user interaction stats, why do you think discord doesn't supply anything? We can gladly do just about any "metrics" based report on discord as we do on the forums Easy to research prior info and events, I never said we can't have a wordpress type blog for event/news archives, but even then, we can have thread channels just the same as the forums Email gathering lol 23k members who do not come in. Didn't you say stuff about false statistics or placebo, yet you're trying to brag up 23k members on a forum barely anyone visits? I love how discord bots are "spam bots" just the plugins used on forums are not. We can do various things with discord, and more. Discord has way more features than the forums from voice channels, streaming, public events, etc. I get the feeling you actually never use discord and know nothing about its extensibility and instead think it's some chatting app when it's really a hub for social communities to do just about everything a forum can do and 500x more. The foundation on which SG has been built is interesting. ZM was the foundation that helped build SG, yet we do not host ZM anymore. Why? Because ZE largely killed ZM because it was a much better gamemode, and communities migrated all to ZE over ZM. This is a case where technology, ideas, software (plugins/maps) improved greatly. ZM died because it was a fundamentally less interesting gamemode. Forums are dying because they are fundamentally less useful to the average gamer than Discord. That is why Discord is basically the #1 most used chatting app. In 2015/16/17 it was a nice to have but at this point it's the household staple that every computer has installed. It has a functional mobile app that makes it. even easier to chat on. How many people do you see loading forums apps on their phone? But just about every phone a kid has from age 12 to 25 has discord on it. Why? Because discord is one of the most popular apps to ever exist in the world and there's an entire base of people who join public servers (like ours) who can easily join our community with an already federated account that shares data like username, avatars, nitro boost, etc. The reason you hate discord is because you literally don't understand it. Forums are dying all across the world because discord is replacing them. You're literally arguing for staying with the printing press over the computer. It's so boomer it hurts Just utterly so detached from reality that is discord functionality it's beyond belief. If you honestly think the shoutbox was generating the same level of interactivity between players here as our discord is, you're lost, and this conversation is moot. Delirium things: That was a major problem way before discord even existed. Or are you trying to revise history that there weren't dozens of different vent/ts3's of different groups? Or the fact that many, many people who used vent/ts3 didn't just use locked channels anyway? That had always been a topic of debate and it partially drove a lot of people out of ts3 back in the day because people were tired of admins moving people in/out of channels. Ejivis said it the other day and it's pretty much exactly true today as it was 8 years ago: "you have no incentive to join here because youd rather be in your own private discords where you can control everything as you see fit" The reason these spun off servers were popular was so people could basically break SG rules without getting caught. People found their friend group they mesh with, shipped off and did that. Like this has happened since day 1, it's not a new problem, and it won't ever stop even if forums were the only avenue. I think this is a really lame take and for someone who goes off on people and calls people/ideas retarded or people dense, this is pretty much a complete red herring. Also, vc will still need to exist, and the forums provide no solutions for that. And nobody has said ALL of it will be handled on discord, but the vast majority can and will eventually. exact quote from you last night: "brother if i was still on the board i'd consider demoting you just based off of that but would probably let it play out" yeah bro, you're definitely not addressing my position here and your "feelings" about me edit1: I was going to write something up for this but honestly after reading "drawing in a useless crowd." I have to wonder how you define yourself, a more useful member than the 20+ people per week who we ping in discord/steam chat who join and participate? You're so hyperfocused on "success" of the community you forgot that we have community members, randoms, people who are joining our server having fun. You're a dick for calling anyone who plays on our servers "useless" to the community. God what an asshole. I've called servers like surf "park benches" of servers because they tend to be used by people who sit and leave, but even then, members use those park benches too and people sitting together can still have a fun time. Nobody who plays on our servers and plays to have fun and follow the rules will ever be useless to the community, I can promise you that.

CS2 Surf will be out soon. We are evaluating JB options, and ZE is far out at this point for some development time from me and my roommate to build something we can work with. These are my opinions, not the boards/other AO's: There has been basically zero expectation that the community will revive itself and every single discussion about CS2 servers has purely been about "who will manage it and get the players on, and who here is willing to play?" More on the players: I can tell you most if not all of our TTT regulars who were not prior SG old heads literally have zero fucking clue or care who the fuck caution or dom is. They are here to play on the servers. Even the ones in TTT do not care, they want to play games. This is a gaming community, not a drama community. Barring map changes/additions from Elfbarf, they do not care about the community unless it's to play games and inteact with certain people who they like. Seemingly, they are fairly content with the discord structure and can navigate to #gmod-ttt and talk about the server, seeding, etc. Maybe that will change and they will become more involved but at this point it is not there. As for the forums discussion: we moved this conversation to discord because it was easier for me to react emoji the mididle finger to everything spiritwind and delirium said, feel free to join up and scroll through 1500 messages of nostalgia, snide comments from delirium, and "show me the proof"'s. RE: the forums 2 I think I am willing to agree to let the forums be for now but I do not believe steering anyone here is in our best interest, it should solely be for event posting long format and maybe some longer discussions. That being said, I still think steam-gamers.net needs to resolve to a landing page and not the forums directly. The discord URL in our server hostname, advertisements in game, etc are much better to connect with our players. It takes seconds to join a discord if you already have an account. It can take minutes to join a forums and immediate interaction takes much longer versus sending a single message reporting something or asking a question, or even just introducing yourself. I've laid out a lot of my thoughts on points regarding the forums and they have not changed from our discord discussion. Inactive admins - Happy to step down if the people who have posted in this thread think I'm not delivering on something in an adequate time or I'm not the right fit for the community. Otherwise I have no other opinions on this. Also it's elf's server, not mine!

hI didn't really want to bump this but figured I'd chime in on a lot of stuff and my thought processes and why a lot of these conversations have happened recently. To start, and this isn't me making an excuse, this is me setting the stage. I probably work on average 40~45 hours a week in my current role, I'm married, and I have other obligations beyond games that I tend to. This isn't saying I don't have time, in fact, what a lot of these conversations have been about is to help MAKE time. I've been somewhat vocal about my disdain for the forums, even as someone who doesn't manage the forums very much. Mainly, it's almost always a matter of replicating exactly what I would've already done or did do in discord. So for instance: 1. Doing events means posting/advertising in discord and the forums, each with their own pane of glass to design (markup in the forums, discord markup and event form fillout, plus posting in respective channels, hot linking messages, etc) 2. Doing admin permissions has to be done in multiple places and I can personally speak this has caused issues since I was assigned AO/TA and that's why I'm only TA right now, was partially because of how jank this is. 3. Doing bans likewise must be done in multiple places- forum ban, a discord ban, a source bans ban, and once CS2 launches, we'll need to add bans there until SB integration is made. This is especially annoying because discord usernames can be wildly different than forum usernames as well meaning people aren't always punished across platforms. Heck, we didn't even bother banning a few people from this thread on SB because we didn't see the need (hint, it's because you few that were banned don't play on gmod ttt) 4. Moderating for spam and purging messages, etc has to be done in multiple panes of glass, again, me stressing this whole thing for a reason. All in all, it's a huge fucking waste of my time to have to look at both panes and I don't even hardly manage/have full access to the forums. Our roles are wildly disparate in what can be done on discord as well (this is being worked on however). And for what benefit does the forums have? We now delve into this question and hopefully solve this once and for all. I said this in discord to you but you have yet to respond but for the record, no, our servers do not have "zero players" as you stated earlier in this thread, and we have just as many people coming into the discord that were "OGs" who are asking where our servers are, no different than the shoutbox. What I can say is our gmod server is utterly cracked out of its mind and is currently ranked #11 on gametracker out of around 100 servers tracked, and I'm sure it's also beating out the hundreds of untracked servers as well. But let's go into some anecdotal discord stats: User1 joined Nov29, 2023: 47 messages 0 forum posts 13 hours played gmod User2 joined Oct15, 2023: 8 messages 0 forum posts 51 hours played gmod User3 joined Oct14, 2023: 141 messages 1 forum post 51 hours played gmod User4 joined Oct24, 2023: 106 messages 0 forum posts 7 hours played gmod So let's level set here: We have new members joining who never visit, join, or post on the forums And our forums have... old heads who have never once joined our current server offerings, who have no/very little activity in discord in the last year+, going on here and thrashing a dude for posting about an idea *I* mainly have been pushing for. All this does is revitalize one obvious point: there is no necessity for the forums aside from a place to handle discord bans and serve out links to our discord, server IPs, and some major news/announcements. Now finally, back to the original point after typing up this entire fucking thing and doing research that obviously supports my point: If the forums were active as all hell I would not be up on this soapbox, I would gladly eat this time consumption lunch and gladly post all my thoughts, my jokes, my currently listening to, my tiktoks all here. But the reality is the interaction here is so utterly low it's not funny. You can blame higherups for that or you can realize it is not the higher ups fault the forums are dead, it's because the modern generation of people playing games, interacting, and making friends are doing it on discord, not on some random ass forums with a hyphen in the url. I have a limited amount of time after 5pm when I finish working and I'm tired of spending those valuable minutes trying to curate out an experience on here when it serves basically no purpose and benefit for myself and for us as a community. You guys want us to do something, let us make changes that give us back the time to work on the things that actually bring in community. In fact, a lot of you who even ended up shitting on dom later in the thread actually agreed the forums should go (lol) I have some thoughts on the technical standpoint but something like "forums are not supported by admins" is not a solution. Maintaining the forums means maintaining security updates and cross compatibility with addons. If our forums get hacked, we could leak out things like e-mail addresses. Maintaining the forums, the theme, everything, it is all time spent by OUR community's staff members.

Minigames wouldn’t really need plugins. JB has a semi functional plugin that is acceptable to use but we would put some elbow grease in it.

Would love to get the community feel for what server they are most hyped to play again in CS2! Poll closes in 2 weeks, thanks!

Thanks all for joining, this was a ton of fun for sure, might need to do it again sometime!!

Install Thunderstore Mod Manager/Overwolf 1. Navigate to here (https://thunderstore.io/) and click "Get App" to download the Thunderstore App and install the app. 2. Once Thunderstore is installed under Game Selection search for Lethal Company and click Select Game on the poster image of Lethal Company 3. Next click Import/Update and select From code and enter: 018c2749-f19c-fbb5-07da-b7b73ef141a0 4. You can leave the name as SG-Event-Dec1 5. Then click Select profile under SG-Evvent-Dec1 and your mods should show up. Now all you need to do is click the button at the top right that says Modded Tip: One optional mod you may want to add is called "FOV_Adjust" to adjust fov in game via typing the command "/fov ##" after joining a lobby, if you find the FOV too low.