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ROFLCAUST I can run it between min and max settings... gpu (an 8 series) holding me back apparently... The only thing that keeps me from running this at max reccomended is my lack of a 8800... Im not spending anohter 200+ for a vid card to play this game at "UBERHIGH". Seems like its the 8800's designer game. I can run the rest of my games at "ultimate/veryhigh/high" on all settings... why me worry? Im more happy with my PS3 and playing all of my games rather than looking really pretty on crysis

bump. does anyone play this game? It is pretty good.

So I got it. Anyone else p lay?

We are all entitled to an opinion. I cant really agree however. Much like with women, pretty only gets you so far. Im still pissed by the fact that flame infantry and rifle infantry in concentration can take a mammoth out...wtf is that about. They need to stop that crap already. Further, the online multiplayer maps lack sufficient resources to make the games pitched enough for excitement... I think they havent moved the game play up at all from TD/TS back in the late 90s imho. I bought it, ill still play it online, but EA has done the westwood classic a disservice. I would have preferred THQ or Sega/TotalWar Studios have scooped up this project, and the CC series in general rather than EA. While THQ may be a smaller company in size, they have a higher quality level in game creation, and many of their games have a much higher replay value...and most important, they make an EFFORT at least to not put out broken games, and patch AFTER the fact. Im sorry, but EA has pissed me off to a great degree over the years with that.

Hello: Those of you that know me know I love RTS gaming. Some folks on this site have played online matches with me on various games (and in some cases, patched all night only to not be able to play because we had to get up in 4 hours for work/school). Currently, several games that we play are going into "expansion and sequel" mode. DOW recently put out a new expansion, SoulStorm, which I reviewed on this site, Supcom put out a new expansion earlier in 2007, Forged alliance... Company of heroes has put out a new expansion in q3 2007: opposing fronts... now, CC3 is putting out Kane's wrath... basically cc3.5 it appears to be. Here is a few previews to this game: http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/commandconquer3kaneswrath/news.html?sid=6184146&mode=previews Now, a few here know of my proclivities with EA, and my dislike of their shoddy, oft-broken release games... I play BF2, 2-3 years after it came out, bf1942 is the closest to a "GOOD" non-constantly-crashing game that they have put out on their own... BFME 1, 2, etc. are okay, but again, the games are wildly unstable at times, making online play nearly undesirable. The CC series and I have had a largely love/hate relationship... since my initial foray into the CC world, with Tiberium Sun/Firestorm back in 2000, and red alert series in entirety afterwards. I've honestly loved the CC games made by westwood, and still play them at times.. When CC generals came out, I liked it, but it felt wildly different from the initial CC games that I played. The actual storyline was rather weak compared to previous CC games, and I felt that EA copped out in just selecting the "near future war in unspecified-istan with random arab army" as a main storyline... China seemed more like walmart than an actual world power, and well.. it seemed as if the whole thing was rather forced. The expansion "Zero Hour" was interesting in the additional powers and playing styles available to some of the US armies, but largely, the gameplay for the arabs and the chinese remained unchanged... basically different attack and defense values and a very overpowered chinese infantryman with the equivalent to a vulcan cannon on foot serving as the mainstay unit in the game... In my opinion wildly unbalancing the game. CC3 was interesting, I waited quite a while to buy it, and im not as impressed as I was by the initial CC games I played. This is linked largely to the fact that the world of RTS gaming has moved forward past the "Go get ore and build stuff" to actual strategy on holding points, conserving unit size, etc. Add this to the fact that the Nod and GDI lineup remains largely unchanged from the general formula in other games, and I am led to believe that EA just kind of made a prettier version of CC, with some elements of generals added... and kicked the game out the door. Now, the EA monolith is planning 3.5 i suppose, with alternate set ups of the current armies as "factions" something like what we saw in Zero Hour. From what I have seen there doesnt seem to be a great deal of content being added here. Rather they are recycling, from what I currently see. Does anyone else see this? What do you all think of the CC3, and the new additions coming down the pike? Basically will this be worth spending 30-50 USD on....

Blank, thank you for your kind words, they are much appreciated. I am glad to have a forum where the populace doesnt consist of imbeciles that cant make a point. Zombie Murder makes this good for me. I agree in that the workers are young, but this is the geek squad their "elite" people regardless of their age... they need to screen better, or add a clause requiring employees to set a bond for working there in case of damage or loss that can be led back to them.. Ok, as to Jager, Let me do this: Im going to give a complete response here, it may be long, but I want my brain to be warm to do actual work, and doing this is both enjoyable and warms the brain for me, so here I go. True, Jager, this case has a rather specific aim I think. Its not just a recovery from the company for the comp, this is a consumer/merchant issue that must be addressed. Best Buy hires persons for Geek squad for the purpose of providing an alternative to the individuals going to office/max/depot as a secondary repair service to the computer manufacturers' own warranty services. These people are advertised as computer experts. This is no one elses idea but best buy's. This means that the courts will hold these "experts" to the standard of an expert in that field that they are to be experts in. Additionally as the employees of best buy, the parent company is liable for the actions of its employees through the doctrine of "respondiat superior" basically, that the employer is liable for the actions of his employee in the scope of their work. Here, the company, regardless of the skill, quality, etc. of the employee is liable for the employee, or employees loss of the computer. No, you are right to a degree. The owner of the info can generally name their price on this... a jury will decide what to do however. What is not mentioned however, is the chance of punitive damages. These damages are awarded for the flagrance of the act, to punish the defendant for their actions. In an action where the company's employees are not careful with sensitive materials AND the company just ignores the pleas of the aggrieved consumer, these damages are not out of the realm of possibility. Jager is right in essence, this plaintiff does have BB by their short and curlies, its up to her and her counsel to determine the way this story end. It wont be the 54 M that will satisfy the situation though, it is the act of forcing BB to SPEND 54 M to fix their problems, and the woman be justly compensated for her loss, inconvenience, and future problems that may arise due to BB's carelessness in keeping her computer, and within it, information, safe.

Ill say this: PC Gaming will likely never die because the configuration allows for constantly advancing possibilities on multiple fronts, and frequently... its not just "ooh, prettier" but wow better AI, wow nice pixel shaders, wow nice etc. the actual dimension of gaming is stretched and defined on PC, THEN console devs come around and play catch up, then the PC leapfrog's again. If I put a 8800 GTX on my computer, it would roughly be a PS3 IN My computer, in addition to the rest of the computer activities it does. I think that the interplayability of games (I can PC game on halo, something allegedly exclusive to the Xbox) and the sheer scope and variety of games (RTS, RTT, etc) will keep PC gaming alive for quite a bit longer.

not bathe.. they dont eat the unwashed. do they?

Im from florida originally, south florida... and I grew up without ice... that being said, i can totally understand how the case ended up going the way it did now. Without detrimenting or insulting you in any way, the fact that ice appeared rendered a situation that in a state like Florida, where there is no ice 99% of the year, would lead a reasonable person to believe that the ice needed to be disposed of, dealt with, etc. prior to the store opening The fact that "most people" were not prepared for the accident unfortunately does not aid you as a shopkeeper/businessman who is held to a higher standard of care than the average citizen in your capacity. Your property, the area around your property, the road adjacent to the property are all frequently traversed areas that must be kept to a certain standard of safety. I know that sounds lame, sucks, etc. but its the law, to prevent people from leaving areas in gross disrepair. As for the best buy settlement offer: I will agree and dissent in part from your opinion. Considering she had a laptop more than a year old, I would say that 4,100 would be a princely sum as to the replacement of the property itself. I would even say that a really nice, top of the line laptop for nongaming use could fall under a number near the one they offered, say 5K.... however: I dont believe that the amount she was offered was worth the breach of warranty and the treatment she received from a company that openly offers itself to be highly consumer friendly. The company entered into a contract with her for parts, service, repair, replacement, etc of the warrantied computer. By failing to provide these services, they left themselves open to suit. Again, I have no pity for them here, as they had the opportunity to define the scope of their services. As the old adage goes: you made your grave, now lay in it. When BB accepted her computer, they entered into a bailment contract with her... she entrusted her property to this company for safekeeping and repair. They breached THAT duty as well. To make this worse still is the fact that they were unresponsive, rude, and uncooperative with the woman. Any other company, LLP, professional that does this would not only lose a customer, but goodwill, as in this case. In a world where there are a million box retailers, electronic peddlers, etc. a company must be wary of its actions. This case allows a citizen to do just that. Once again, saying "shit happens" is easy to do, but here is the problem... the company is being paid specifically through the purchase of the warranty IN CASE shit happens. They failed at the very reason they were being paid for which we referred to above. Lastly, the fact that the action is exercisable, and that the wrong was committed, especially in Bestbuy's scenario makes the action more than conscionable. Companies make a lot of money and are depended on, they are responsible for the actions of their workers... perhaps they should hire quality workers and stop featherbedding. Common sense is seeking renumeration for your losses when you are wronged, we cannot condone negligence in our society, especially in business... that is how enrons happen.

I love this comment... actually its not us. Its the Law makers that allow for grossly oversized recoveries based on tort (civil wrong) negligence. As an attorney, you can charge a contingency fee (up to 1/3 of total take, if reasonable to work done, hours contributed, and novelty/difficulty of the work) in lieu of a fixed hourly rate when a client doesnt have the money to cover the expense for legal counsel. This fee is earned when you deal with the clients we have to deal with. As for your own situation there, while I can understand that you are upset for the litigation against you I do not have sufficient facts to determine if that lawsuit was indeed frivilous: Well, is the road a public thoroughfare or is it owned privately by yourself, your company, etc? Ice seems to have been the culprit here, yet, living in a cold weather state, it may be considered by a jury, or a judge reasonable for the store owner to secure the safety of an area through the removal of ice, debris, obstructions, etc that could potentially lead to endangerment. This is not to say that you are/were negligent, but rather, that these are things that are considered in analyzing a negligence problem. Basically, the reasoning would go like this... Negligence: Duty Breach Cause Damages Did you have a duty to the client to keep the ice off the road? Was this duty breached? Was your breach of duty the proximate cause to the plaintiff's injury Did the plaintiff suffer damages? Did this go to jury? Did your insurance seek to settle out? The rule in torts is: if I am at fault, settle, especially if the client is sympathetic. If you didnt go to a jury here, and your case is iffy, like here, where a husband hit his wife with a car (smacks of stupidity), your attorney should have argued contributory negligence.... If he didnt do that, your lawyer was a retard, sorry to say. Same thing applies to the McD's case. We use that case as an example of BAD legal service delivery. That should have been thrown out faster than spoiled milk, but it wasnt because they had a non-aware/non-useful in house counsel there. If these elements can be proven to the jury, guess what? Your ass is in a sling. Here is a tip: Dont offer to pay ANYTHING next time. Call the ambulance, let them take it up with them, and then afterwards, deal with it. Paying for, offering to pay for anything is pretty much an admission to wrong doing... That is not the lawyer, that is pretty much 10K years of human thought process at work. Best buy messed up... They offer their services to customers as computer repair, assistance, etc. They market the geek squad as (ludicrously overpriced) special forces of computer repair... they tote their warranty like its the true cross and essentially force you to purchase it, because their selling point is ease of use/access "deal with us, we'll take care of your problem.... get an EXTRA warranty, on top of the one you already have with Apple, Dell, Gateway, Sony, etc. at around 20% of MSRP of the product.... We will always help" Well, they didnt live up to their promise. This isnt a negligence action, this is a breach of warranty, contract, advertising, consumer rights issue. The rule there is deliver your promise, because you control the contains of that promise... do that or be spanked... They had plenty of time to rectify the situation with the woman, and they didnt... probably because geek squad sat on her comments, as did C-support, etc. It wasnt until she SUED that she even got an offer for assistance... that is probably when the in house counsel with half a brain saw the problem and said: "shit, she can ream us under _______ statute by senator _______, ZOMG, SEND HER AN OFFER NOWWWW" Well, it was too little, too late at that point. What makes it worst of all is that it is not just a breach of the warranty to service her promptly and appropriately, but they LOST HER PERSONAL PROPERTY, entrusted to her under that contract.... then refused to assist her in locating said property, or seeking speedy, immediate replacement with a newer computer, etc. considering that they lost hers with all her info... sure, the new comp may cost more monetarily than the old one, but it is still cheaper than the legal fees for the 54 M dollar suit that came. I have no sympathy for a company that cant keep its affairs in order, especially one of the size of best buy. Everyone loves to blame the lawyers, until they need one, or want to avoid paying their actual share in taxes, estate fees, divorce split costs, serving time in jail for being a dick, rapist, criminal, etc, or they leave a napkin in some patient... after these events occur 97% of the public will tongue our collective legal asses in a handstand while taking a shit to get our help. BTW, contingent agreements are only allowed in non-criminal, non family law matters... before everyone starts screaming "my wife left me and the lawyer got paid more because of the split of the total amount of joint property"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/ts_nm/pope_sins_dc pretty funny shit, esp bc im cat-o-lick

well I did the same thing for DC about 18 mos. ago on a wawrhammer site I frequent... DOW SS: I give it about a 7/8 Soulstorm is an interesting, enjoyable game if you like the Warhammer Dawn of War series by relic/thq that has held its own and dominated as to decent RTS PC gaming over the past 4 years. Whereas many games take to WW2 primarily, or some alt. reality of the modern or near modern future, DOW takes the player to the WH40K universe, which makes those of us that frequent this forum likely interested in the game and willing to shell out money for a game that lets us play with multiple armies that cost MANY times more than the one time purchase of the game. DOW has provided me with hours of endless entertainment, with all the khorne influenced catchphrases I could hope for short of a games-day size tourney devoid of players under the age of 21 and filled with Kegs of beer, bottles of Vat69 Scotch, pecan pie, and strippers... This was then followed up somewhat well by the Imperial guard being added into the game in WA. WA continued the DOW franchise tastefully and in my opinion the guard were a likely, and enjoyable addition to the present races, however it left me needing more. WA skimped in the "Add another army department, and choked out by not really adding a WHOLE other army, but rather taking the models available, slapping some xtra stuff to it and sending the old girl out on stage like a drunken pitbull in an encore fight at michael vick's house. Regardless, I still liked, bought, played, obsessed, and defiled the game, not in that order.... until DC rumors came about. DC had alot of the same issues I had with WA, once again, an army was pieced together from available models (crons)... but here, we had a whole new army added, and say what you want of the tau, they were a welcome relief in the game that made "stealth" actual worthwhile in the game. DC is probably one of the better RTS titles/expansions I've played short of company of heroes and starcraft. Even then, the games cannot be truly compared, and for my own enjoyment, they rank about equal. When I heard about SS coming out, I was honestly angry at first, because I had just gotten a new rig and was hoping they would go along to DOW 2 or its equivalent, and finally add the nids. As soon as I heard that the game would not be changing the engine at all, I felt it was highly unlikely GW or relic bothered to engineer nids for the game, so I was not really all that pissy about that. I will say however, that compared to the additions and improvements of the other expansions, these additions are actually a fresh breath of air in a rather stale room. The sisters and DE, like them or hate them are rather different from the rest of the armies, and paint/swapped marines aside, I think the addition of a "witchhunter" army was not a horrid idea in the end. The sisters of battle SOB are pretty much a nuns with guns with a great big dose of catholic guilt... if you are catholic, you will actually crack up at the catholic inspired droning recant prayer type comments the units give (emperor deliver us from the tempeeeeeeeest). The models look good.... its basically the majority of the SOB tabletop line up, minus a few things, and is themed on a fire based army... almost every unit can upgrade to a flamer, or carries one..... this army would be the most likely to be modded into a "gay army" if anyone was to do that. It feels different than the marines because there is less emphasis on the supercharacters, as the actual units are able to hold their own to a great degree without the attached leadership... the fact that they mostly all u pgrade to flame weapons meansx that armies with low leadership/morale like the orks or the guard prior to upgrades will be running like armenian civilians from turkey in 1915. The DE are more or less as I imagined them, although I would have liked more warp-teleporting around from them on the boards rather than just skirting around. The DE have more staying power t han the regular eldar imho, the regular troops are able to fight hand to hand and at a distance respectably for the better part of the game after the first upgrades to the units. The army relies on poisons, psych effects, and a shitload of passive/active effect charge powers that can level enemy units rather quickly if the player is half decent at placing his units to allow for the most damage possible. The army gets a good variety of units as well, allowing players that actually play table top some degree of variety in their army composition in game. Flying units basically work like over-hyped skimmers, and are not all that amazing to me... I would have preferred fighter/air unit SUPPORT in the manner company of heroes does this thing, where it is a chargeable power rather than a unit per se. To be honest, the fliers remind me quite a bit of the flying units in the old "age of empires-like" starwars galactic battlegrounds, which tends to make the units behave more like permanently floating skimmers rather than actual flying units. They are well armed however to hit and run on infantry, and can take a decent beating before cracking. Also, in the defense of the fliers, the developers at least tried to give SOME natural motion to the air units, wings dip and the unit wobbles when it fires, etc. My beef is that we could have more easily benefited from one of the multitudes of vehicles in these armies rather than fliers... I would have preferred a new kind of chaos marine, maybe noise or plague marines, or perhaps some spawns, demons.... my point is that there were a LOT of options they could have gone with, and adding in a random flying unit, while not a complete FAIL, just seems to smack of "copout" on a game series that I have really come to expect the best from. The campaign is basically an expanded version of the DC campaign... and sadly, no matter how you dress it, the campaign essentially consists of repeated skirmishes with the occasional base boss fights. This doesnt really surprise me, however as I didnt expect the campaign to move up much, and barring very few RTS's its not as if the plot gets much deeper than amateur armenian-turkish porn circa 1915 anyhow. I'll play through it once, with one race, to get used to the new race's units, then go play online My point is, that its just not all that much of an addition, but at the same time, I was aware of that coming into the game. The multiplayer has improved in that the game has a SHITLOAD of Maps, many of which are larger and more filled with cap points and resource nodes... Alot of these maps have corridored areas, forcing fights with the opponent rather than heavy turtle-favoring maps.... this is a good thing, and with 9 races now in, many of which with units capable of teleporting/jumping over areas, this will be fun to watch. After a few maps/games, I think the multiplayer is still as good as it was the initial time I played DOW online 4 years ago... At $40USD for a "Standalone expansion" (Read: way to get you to pay 80% of the orig game price for less than 1/2 the functionality of the original at initial release) it is basically a "booster pack" to the DOW series, adding some multiplayer fun, maps, and two characterful, new races. If you like the series, and you want two new races that are both dissimilar and entertaining to play as... I suggest getting the game and getting online with it. DOW's draw has been its involvement with 40K and its variety of game factions... as such, Im not mad at all at the limited scope of changes in the expansion. Graphics, etc are equal to DC, and I was able to run the game on high on my OLD 3 year old laptop (it runs flawlessly on the new rig). In the game's defense, I ask: why fix what works? The game still looks good, despite its engine's age, and is reliable as an RTS can be.. While I have contant issues with EA games, I can honestly say that I can count on one hand the times that DOW has actually given me a non-connection/internet based problem...even in large games, even with crazyness going full tilt. I much rather prefer the game stick to its premise/look/etc. for now since this is the (god i hope) final expansion... If and When DOW returns, hopefully, it will be under different engine, graphic, appearance, and with tyranids. For now though, its basically Rocky III... good to watch, mess with, own... but dont expect an Oscar. If you like the series, go get it... and lets get online for a game. __________________

ditto to what red said... Allegedly, Q4 08 is the TBA but theyve been saying that since WC3

Posted on Yahoo this morning for me.

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/72016 I'll say this... dont blame the attorneys, blame the douchebag senators that pass laws allowing for 54M recovery under Consumer Protection Statutes to get votes... or... if your like me, root for the woman... because the fucktards at the store should not have been that unprofessional I hope she wins. LOL. She wont though.

I dont know how we got hoodwinked into these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krXP_TUZqsk&NR=1

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I own Bf complete collection BF2 vanilla, Vietnam and have a bud's copy of 2142. I agree as to coop though, which is what made me get resistance with the ps3 rather than cod4 when i got it. Im glad I did

honestly, after having possessed all of the BF series... I cant really say I like 2142 anywhere near as much as BF2. BF 2142 seemed like a pretty expansion with WAY too many bugs.

Well, I wanted to play the game, but didnt want to buy the thing, because my experience with COD Games (I own the rest of them, purchased used or otherwise somehow gotten at a lesser than MSRP price) has been that the campaign mode is AMAZING, and then there is the multiplayer, which is usually no more than an afterthought to the game. I mean, its fun for about 15 min, but it gets old and doesnt have much for depth. Anyhow, I played the game on the PS3 for several reasons. Despite having a quad core with a decent vid card and loads of ram, i didnt want to have to buy the game and you cant really rent a comp game. I was glad I went with the three. I think the game's graphics are amazing, the shadowing, lighting, facial motions, etc are truly amazing to watch. Infinity ward definitely did a good job with this game.. as it is damn pretty. The game sounds are also as impressive, This game, a good set of headphones and you will feel jitters. I thought the plot line was okay, passable from a tom clancy movie or a richard marcinko book (after rogue warrior), and for that I cant really complain. There is lots of shooting, a bit of humor, and a lot of cool shit happening all at once. I have to say that the unspecifiedestan (iraq) levels were probably the most exciting and engaging for me as I pretty much got to blow the shit out of everything in existence. The boards/levels were beautifully rendered and I really felt better about buying this 15 pound monstrosity that sits triumphantly upon the floor of my apartment, in its throne of cables. The game has all the obligatory characters of call of duty, including that recurring "captain price" from every other call of duty game.. the guy's fought in so many wars he should have gotten at least pension by now. He also has that handlebar moustache that you would expect to see in bolshevik posters. Also for the first time without being anachronistic or violative of historical accuracy, the game included a black guy. IW and Activision apparently dont have any real qualms about adding a character who's very character is about as stereotypical as it gets... Im not complaining, as I found this rather funny. iF this act of tokenism was not enough, he raps, has catch phrases ala B.A. Barracus (A-team) and doesnt wear his full uniform, like the rest of the marines, he even dies just like the minorities in war movies here in the states. I was kind of half expecting them to have him offer the Englishmen chicken when they were talking of lager at the pub. This isnt to say that I am not content with a little diversity in the game, but shit, cant you at least make him a regular trooper as opposed to the semi-racist caricature comic relief? The Enemies in the game actually had a decent AI, and can mess with you pretty well on the more difficult settings. The first run through on the level above reg, the machine wailed on my ass like my friend's mom did to him when he got C's in class. The levels kept me coming back and I managed to beat the game in about 2 days partly due to the engrossing game play. That being said, I felt that the game was way too short.. WAY too short. I thought that there should have been some more length tacked to the end of the game, especially when the multiplayer I would describe as uninspired, at best. I thought the last epilogue mission was a good time, and I would have preferred to have done that during the game towards the middle as part of a training mission... while there was no real logical connection between this mission and the rest, it was still enjoyable. No shit, I beat this game in under 6-7 total hours of playing over 2 days. Multiplayer... now... I am not bashing "oh i hate you" the multiplayer.. rather, I am disappointed because it could have been much better. I feel that a game with such a great set up, good story line, amazing engine and graphics, on a 7th Gen machine like the PS3 should b e able to hold larger MP matches, and have more depth to the game play... Its like a poor man's BF2 to be honest, except you dont get vehicles, and if you can believe it, the online community for the game are BIGGER dickheads than the shitbirds still on BF2 at 3 am on the german statpadding server. I really wanted to throw my controller after like 6 minutes because I was so bloody infuriated with the other players.. Its not my ability or thier ability to play... its their behavior... why do these people h ave to sit there and hurl racial epithets at each other for NO apparent reason whatsoever? Is it something of a right of passage? Someone let me know, because I dont get what is so great about popping off words all day and night for no real reason that make you appear as an ignorant teenager with no concept of tact or the vilification of the terms and this isnt just yelling "darkie" or "nignog" I mean these guys were calling each other "Wetback" ALL OF THEM HAD MIDWESTERN UNITED STATES ACCENTS?!?! I mean seriously, ZOMG wtf people? I can say this, I am glad I dont have voice chat... So between these guys and game play in MP that basically consists of run around a board and shoot each other with no other real purpose I felt that the PS3 MP experience was okay, but too lackluster to be anything to pop a boner over. There you have it... I think its a great game, improves in a lot of areas from its predecessors... but in the end.. this is a rental for me. 4.50 for 2 days (this store may be more expensive but actually HAS the game, unlike blockbuster, where id never see the damn thing)and i beat it in 1. In conclusion, I feel this game was decent... I believe it makes a great rental

my vacations consist of studying, running, and beer... enjoy them while they last.

This is pretty funny crap. http://www.eatmyshorts.net/videos/1615/Where+brooklyn+at%3F.html

I practiced Capoeira Angola for several years, enjoyed it thoroughly, still practice. In a fight though, its not about going "kata" or form on the person, its just reaction... im not going to ginga and kick, Im going to knee your ribs or balls and get out of there. That had always been my experience.

apparently its a hodgepodge of liberal people that want to "make you understand how the illegals feel"