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Wasn't the best map, and not sure if this is the proper version to add but it's surely better than some of the expansive maps we have where the weapons in armory you can't even pick up without having an aneurysm.

This is a good point, on the rest I have to agree to disagree. I feel it adds a lot of complications, issues, and hurdles in order to make it easier to not snipe a spot on the team.

The guard queue plugin has several bugs, incosistentences, and issues involved with it. I'd like to note them here and offer a solution. Sometimes the plugin lets you join CT without typing !guard, other times on map-start CT will be partially or completely empty which has no resolution with no admin on. There are a lot of other bugs, another which tells you that you're in the queue but won't actually swap you to the enemy team even if the CT team's #'s would allow for it. There are grammar errors like "[SG Ratio] Get a Supporter to be automatically moved to the front of the queue." Feels like it needs a lot more work right now, my main issue with it isn't the bugs it's moreover how awkward it is to have to put the command in to enter the queue for CT when it sometimes doesn't work. I also wish there were more chat prompts for the plugin where joining CT is concerned whether when they try to join the team normally or random prompts so players were more clear on how the plugin worked (not sure if possible with SP). Lastly, I'm unsure why this same thing could not be accomplished through a simple Ratio plugin or whether this was added more as a perk for supporters- but that seems like a better solution.

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I think you might be preaching to the choir but there's a lot of other things that CTs now have going for them, and there's a better way to go about doing what you're saying. People hate stuff like knifing the ground crouched, and getting popped in the head as a warning shot because it's hard to play against at all. There is a reason the most fun times in Jailbreak were when we had actual wardens, they were strict as fuck but they weren't doing it because they were cunts they were legitimately fun to play with. Some of my fondest memories on Jailbreak are with people who did this kind of stuff because honest to god rebelling on Jailbreak is way too easy sometimes. I love to see people get creative and competitive, they learn the maps, they learn the rules, and it's better off that way.

I love how this thread went from shitting on this guy for saying JB was trash to saying the players on JB are practically satan spawn. People should really be prescribing these kids to just get fucking better, why are you letting a CT easily headshot you? If a CT is taking the time to headshot someone, murder that bastard. I have played like 5 hrs of JB on my break and last few days, I can't even get some of you guys to right click somebody while I'm left clicking. Even with HP increases, menus, deathgames, lrs and many of the newer/edited maps being CT sided there are hella few wardens to actually take advantage. It's like all of the stuff that went into making CT better just made the CT's just take the buffs as a signal to just be more lazy. I have seen half the playerbase making up rules or refusing to go to CT leading to horrible ratios, voting for maps that make no sense with the population, or playing maps that are expansive as fuck but cannot be bothered to get the guns in armory right. We used to have JB community meetings for this reason because alongside events, the Race to The Top, surveys, and several forum discussions it helped create a real, tangible community. With the mapping community how it is right now at SG and several members of the community versing themselves in it I think if Jailbreak wants to reach new heights it would be smart to create flagship, compact, electric/lego/spacejail/vip type maps alongside some undertale/moonjail/arcade ones. When people are on a map that is well balanced, well known, that they already have downloaded and enjoy playing they tend to play the gamemode as it's meant to be played in my experience instead of compensating by ruining the fun with shit orders or having a group of Prisoners who are going to be perma obedient.

Haven't had a ton of occurrences with you, admittedly didn't think the highest of you when we first met but it's been over 5 years. People tend to not randomly climb to BD for no reason. I feel this paragraph hard, these last few years were extremely bittersweet. You sound like you've taken it the right way though and that's beyond amazing. Keep your passion and momentum going. Sorry for your losses, hope your new ventures treat you better. Keep pushing brother. Much love.

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It needs a bunch of little changes in my opinion but this idea that it’s a steaming pile of garbage isn’t it lol. The warning shot headshots are scummy but CTs have every odd stacked against them so if they want to take out someone’s HP entirely for not listening that’s better than a lot of other servers. Anytime you come up with these mildly annoying issues from CT it’s refreshing to check the winrates. The only reasonable solution would be to tweak the map pool so much so that these guns don’t exist, which seems kind of silly and the prospect of making a rule about it also seems unnecessary. If you argue it from a balance standpoint, accept it as reality there are a few other solutions such as going in and tweaking maps individually but those are extreme solutions that require tedious work. Yesterday when you were on the server the reason it was chaos was because you and the other CTs felt like conflicting orders to a ridiculous margin, screeching into your mic, purposefully giving strict, confusing, and often special orders just for the sake of it. This isn’t to mention how CTs now seem to drop you their life story before they find it necessary to open the cell doors. Those type of things do way more harm to creating a “steaming pile of shit” environment, but despite them the server is on the right track.

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I agree with you about the 60 minute bans and maximums. The first point however isn't something lost on me. I know better than anyone; trust me. I don't think it's the end all be all to this discussion, the stopping point is whether or not it's an issue It is about putting obstacles in place to avoid griefing, it's possible to just say "well he's going to just go on an alt don't do X", it's more difficult to change the systems in place based on prevailing sentiment and verifiable situations. For example, what do you make of situations like these: https://banned.steam-gamers.net/ctbans/index.php?search=STEAM_1%3A1%3A177764132 https://banned.steam-gamers.net/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_1%3A1%3A177764132 &Submit=Search - https://banned.steam-gamers.net/ctbans/index.php?search=STEAM_1%3A0%3A167748498 https://banned.steam-gamers.net/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_1%3A0%3A167748498&Submit=Search There's no reason why this, and the many situations like this will not keep occuring tbh. It doesn't look like it happens by random chance, it looks like a mixture of apathy or leniency from staff leading to recurrent punishments which means recurrent issues for the playerbase. CT Bans was added during my time at Jailbreak, and the reason why we pushed for it was a supplemental punishment. If some guy didn't know what he was doing, we wanted to stop this person from joining CT, killing everyone, and I'd have to sit there to continue switching him. If I wanted to go take a shit at some point, there needed to be a solution. This is the same reason automated systems like a time requirement, ratio control, and so on was implemented- to create ease for the staff. It seems to be doing the opposite of it's original intention which is allow griefers to continuously do their thing for reasons not entirely worth speculating on, but if I had to guess it's maybe that admins aren't clear on ban protocol, which used to have it's own special, very visible page and when you crossed a certain line as a player you were practically gunned down by the staff team. Increase and perm requests are maybe too much of a step for people, and at some point maybe they'll reconsider longer ban times for admins. With less work, and more tools at the admins disposable this should be a much better environment, not worse.

Could work as a short event but to me this concept feels like something you vote for a single round, laugh a bit and forget about.

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I think this will be a recurring issue but I'll agree to disagree, I don't wanna pass up the opportunity to hear you guys sing whatever that is lol. IMHO the CTBans page and SourceBans page plus on avg. declining server rank & just watching some of the admins do their thing as well as talk on Discord are some huge flags for me. Could be entirely anecdotal, I don't have an issue with finding out but I do ask that in the future we all stay open minded for the better of the server : )

To expand on what you said then, with the other option being 1 day do you think that suffices or do you think it falls under the category where someone could use another account. IMO better safe than sorry, make people go through another step.

I don't think that's true. If people stopped screwing around at the start of the round it wouldn't take so long, more time really feels like it's being used horribly.

For sure, at bare minimum I hope people look at the metrics I mentioned, are simply more mindful that the maximums are 120 or a more clear precedent set as far as increases are concerned. I still would like the times increased, but these are just easy middle grounds.

Yesterday I saw people pretty blatantly freekilling over and over who were given 60 minute CT bans. I was told this was the process not discretionary and I couldn't find updated info due to the sites update. A 120 minute CT ban, which is the maximum fits more than 60 or a 1 day but over the course of a month that is not what is occuring (feel free to check the bans). I'm not sure if it does and I can't find it, but the site might benefit from having a standalone page for this kind of information like it used to. I do understand the point you're making about new players who don't understand the rules, but I think emphasizing that people who do understand the rules, and are griefing shouldn't get off with a slap on the wrist always.

A 60 minute CT Ban for someone who continuously mass freekills doesn’t only seem like a disproportionate punishment but it seems like it will set up future players to get griefed again, potentially without proper resolution or punishment for the person who is again, blatantly ruining peoples fun. Is there any reason why mass freekillers, who more than often are blatantly griefing the server aren’t given a 3 day (where this originally was) to a 1 week ban?

The round times on the server feel extremely awkward on the maps which have been set that way. I understand small incremental increases but the changes feel entirely overkill & unnecessary. Having it so a map like Clouds which was delayed on notoriously to begin with has a longer timer for me makes little sense. What criteria were the maps decided on? It makes the server more far more boring, far less fast paced when this happens. The time at the start of the round has turned into a minute of a CT giving you a monologue before even considering opening cells, the time at the end has become the same thing of delaying & fucking around with the Ts who are still alive if not blatantly camping somewhere giving no orders. Again, I’m not entirely certain what criteria or logic this change was made on, I’m aware other servers sometimes have longer round timers but it’s my least favorite thing about them. It could be that I’m the only one who feels this way, but I think it should be considered to tweak the times or fully revert them.

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