Caution

1. Alligators 2. Crocodiles 3. Brain Aneurysms

You guys bring your own topics and discuss whatever you want / need clarification on. Why would we tell you what to discuss lol. Sorry I was a square and missed it...I had some important shit come up last minute that I couldn't put off.

Good evening everyone! If you were around in 2008-2010, you probably remember Honorable Gamer (HG). 5 years ago, this rank was removed. HG was a rank that was given out automatically to people who had been here for a few months with 400 posts, and they got a few extra perks. The problem with it back then was that it was automatically given out to anybody, so it eventually got to be a circle-jerk of oldfags who trolled people. Not everyone in the rank was like this, but it got up to a pretty hefty amount. The rank was removed by Garfield, along with some other ranks as well (like LG). Well, here we are 5 years later, bringing it back! HG has been a hot topic over the past few years, and one that we weren't really sure how we'd go about adding back without taking on the issues it had before. At the same time, we totally demolished what Regular used to be; people used to have to actually earn it. Now, there isn't any sort of rank earned until you reach admin, which didn't really sit well with the Board and me. Honorable Gamer has been redesigned to reward long-time players, and those who have contributed to the community more than the average player. All admins may nominate players for Honorable Gamer if they feel they deserve it. Once an admin fills out the nomination form, it will be sent to the CA section for voting. This promotion is open to all Regulars who fit the above description and meet the following criteria: 200+ posts on the forum No bans over 6+ hours within the past 3 months Not permbanned within the last year Just because someone meets these requirements and is nominated, doesn't guarantee they will be promoted. CA's+ will participate in voting, and support nominations for players who they believe deserve the title. Like the admin applications, they will also post why they support the nomination or not. Each CA meeting, we will go over the candidates and decide who to promote based on the support given. This is the Honorable Gamers usergroup package: 500 PM Inbox Can send a PM to as many as 10 users at once Cyan Bold Name Honorable Gamer rank image 180x200 Avatar Size 600x200 Signature 500 Character limit in Signature Maximum lines in Signature is 6 Can Upload Images for Signature Maximum Number of images in Signature is 2 Can Upoad Animated Avatar and Signature Can Use Custom Title Can have album and upload pictures 50 Album pictures max Can make Private Channels on Teamspeak As of today, the Member rank has been discontinued. Now when a player signs up on the forums, they will not have an "official" rank until they receive SG.Reg status. The promotion to SG.Reg is automatic once you have been on the forum for 30 days and have 50 posts. We hope you guys enjoy us reviving HG, and we also hope you guys strive to put forward only the best for this rank.

punch & pie

Be there or be square.

Lol just make sure you add me prior to you buying the game so you can gift it to me.

Caution209 is my steam name. Yankees avatar

Star Wars Republic Commando. It's 9.99, so it'd be 2 months of subscriber.

Hello everyone! As you may have noticed, the community has had some changes lately. Between all these new promotions and our recent host switch, you may think there is a lot going on at once. We apologize for any type of inconvenience the switch may have caused you, but ultimately it put us in much, much better hands. The site is much faster and there isn't some stupid alligator running around here. We know there are still some errors on the forums waiting to be fixed, and we are working towards making everything the way it used to be...minus the alligator. Thank you all for continuing to support us and encouraging us to push forward with SG. Also, we will be introducing a Halloween theme for the forums shortly. We are just making sure that it will not interfere with any type of maintenance being performed. While we love festive themes, getting this place fully up and running again takes priority. Since there has been a lot going on and some of you may have some unanswered questions, we will be hosting a community meeting. Even if you don't have questions, just hopping in and getting a full update on the community straight from us BD's is always nice; I know I have a few things I'd like to address with you guys. Right now, the meeting date will be scheduled for Saturday, the 10th of October @ 12PM EST. This meeting date could change, so stay tuned...but we are definitely having a community meeting within the next week or two. For all of my subscribers, I mentioned earlier that we believe we have found out what the issue is. Please remain patient, as I am waiting to fully announce how to get around this issue until we get our subscription system fully set up on the forums again (hopefully within the next few days). Standby on this and, as always, shoot me a PM if you are having any issues. As I mentioned, we do appreciate all of your support. Keep playing in the servers, and please keep your eyes open for new servers, promotions, events, and community changes in the future.

How much $ were you looking to subscribe for? If you buy me a steam game (I don't care about skins at all) for $10 or $20, I would pay out of my own pocket to hook you up with subscriber for however many months it was worth.

Thats gay . I used to buy prepaid visas about 6 years ago at the grocery store next to my place and I never paid an activation fee.

Wtf when did they start doing that? I used to get those when I was in high school and there was no activation.

Activation is free. Not sure what you're talking about.

And tbh, the poll itself is talking about ending ca sub and sa sub ranks, which in itself will not be happening. I could just move this to rejected and leave it at that, or lay out detailed reasoning and explanation as to possible steps we will take to compromise. Lol

I'm failing to see how it's not a potential alternative to the issue that was brought up.

If that's all you got out of my post, I'm not going further in depth lol. I literally went over that as well as other changes, with detailed reasons.

You can also just buy a prepaid credit card thingy from a store and transfer the funds to paypal. We will only be accepting Paypal, however.

We have to create SA-sub and CA-sub for people to gain the perks of being a subscriber. Regardless of whatever extra perks they may get, ie colored text, banning, making a map change, kicking, making votes, WHATEVER the extra command is (just using the previous ones as examples), there HAS to be a separate group for them on the servers for them to be placed into a group that allows the extra perks, whatever they may be. Otherwise, we'd have to manually add each ID back and forth, which is something we aren't going to do when it can just easily be pulled from sourcebans. So as far as actually taking the physical grouping away from them (ie removing the adminsub and casub groups), I am 100% saying no to removing it. That part isn't up for debate. We have to have these groups so they can award people the perks of being sub. As far as immunity goes, unless you are an AO, there is no admin vs. admin commands allowed. Fun aside (IN MODERATION), CA's can't punish SA's, SAsub can't punish CA's, CAsub can't punish SA's, etc. The point I'm getting at, if it isn't clear already, is that admins are not allowed to punish other admins unless you hold the rank of AO, TA (majority of these guys were ex-BD's anyways, so I trust their judgment with this), BD, or PO. Period. The ONLY stipulation I would say is fine is if you, as an SA, catch another SA trying to mass ban servers, blatant hacking, or something crazy along those lines. For ANYTHING else, you need to go through an AO+. This also is not something up for debate. Continuing with immunity levels, I looked into it and you guys are correct; SAsubs have higher immunity than CA's. This is something I was not aware of, and will get to fixing. Give me a few days to get this into play (probably sometime this weekend). I'm really busy the rest of this week until then. If one of you can remember, tag me in this thread on Friday to remind me, cause I will forget shit pretty easy if you guys don't remind me about it. It sucks, but I work full-time, go to school, and then spend the rest of my time that I'm not out with friends either fixing things around here or talking to BD's / AO's about changes, drama we have to handle, promotions, demotions, etc. Seriously...being a PO can suck at times if you invest a lot of time trying to better this place. Not saying AO's or BD's don't do a lot of work, cause they do...but I digress. Still talking about immunity here...I just didn't want one wall of text lol. Anyways, my opinion on it is that SA's and CA's should have the same immunity levels. None of you guys should have higher immunity because you shouldn't be punishing each other regardless. Don't get immunity confused with perks, because those aren't the same thing. I don't have all of the commands of sourcemod in my head, so I would have to take time to review them. I also don't think that any special powers pertaining to admin should be given to admins that are subs. If they have the admin powers, so should all of the other admins. I'll have to talk to the other BD's about this and get their thoughts. I don't want to say this as an absolute, because there may be some power out there that I would say 'Yeah, that's cool that only sub admins have,' but I certainly can't think of any off the top of my head. Last bit (yup...still talking about immunity). I am also going to be bringing up possibly removing SA's and CA's from performing any admin commands on each other. So same immunity levels for SA's, CA's, SAsubs, and CAsubs, and not allowing you guys to utilize admin commands on anybody who is an admin. I know this might suck for some of you wanting to do 'fun' commands like slap or whatever, but I'm pretty sure it's possible to bypass certain commands, so we could allow you guys to slap each other, just not kick or ban. I could be wrong on that part, so don't quote me. I just got off work and don't feel like going back into the server files to review this right now, so this is also something I would have to look at again. Okay, this is really the last bit. I am absolutely not saying that we are for sure going to remove you guys from being able to use admin commands on each other. I know that may seem as a punishment, so I know a lot of you guys may quote me and say it's a bad idea lol. It is 100% not a punishment, and I don't want you guys to think it is. I'm not really for it or against it at this point, but I see both sides of the fence. You guys shouldn't be using admin commands on each other, but there is a portion of it that can definitely increase the amount of fun in the server if done correctly. Even though the last part of that sentence is true, there isn't really an absolute need for you guys to be able to do that. It doesn't prevent you from doing your part administrating the servers in any way, shape, or form. If we do end up changing this, you will know, but it's something that might not even happen, so don't get caught up with it yet. I'll get with the BD's this weekend and we'll discuss the issues mentioned. If I didn't answer something here, let me know.

Just responding to this portion right now since I'm on my phone...but CA's are not allowed to punish SA's in the server.

I've finally heard it.

That's cool, but it will take a few weeks to be able to trade it to you.

I'm not giving Bread shit until he talks on the mic to me. Runner-ups?

No, I have to babysit you BD's enough as it is. Last week you guys ate all the glue.

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