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Locking this for now. I'm working on something that I'll finish when I get home that will likely answer your question. Edit: changed a word so that what I was saying would be better understood

Well, for whatever reason the map maker removed the map completely from the workshop so have to reject this.

Crossfire has been, and always will be a part of JB. Sometimes it is something a CT can avoid, sometimes it isn't. It just depends on the situation. While I don't doubt that there are some situations where a CT could easily avoid cross fire, you can't always tell and in the heat of the moment things can get confusing. The only time when cross fire wouldn't be allowed, is when there's one T shooting in a group of Ts, and one CT decides to literally mow down the entire crowd to get to that one T. But we aren't adding anything to the rules about crossfire. Just use common sense and if you get screwed over thanks to your teammate using you as human meat shield, either hope the CT slays himself out of courtesy, or just tough it out and wait for the next round.

Just glanced at the OP cuz I'm about to finish the drive home (stopped to get a drink) but did OP really make a diagram of where a CT was and where he shot the Ts...

You took too long so I had to prez do it

That no did not have !!!s behind it thank you very much

This tournament is the equivalent to the suppressed memory that you forget about only to have it come to you late at nigh when you're trying to sleep and then spend the next hour or two trying not to think about it but you can't sleep due to the trauma the memory gives you so you eventually cry yourself to sleep and wake up and forget about it until the next night when you do it all over again.

Right now go about as normal and just assume it's implied like the older threads said. I'm open to the idea of changing that so if anyone has anything to add to the conversation please do.

IIRC you can bind a key to toggle crouching. Regardless, the question has already been answered. /thread

I honestly see no reason why it would be implied. If you order them to run to pool, you don't shoot them for jumping, so why would you shoot them for jumping if they were told to walk or crouch there? I'm not sure off the top of my head if we've made a previous stance on this saying otherwise tho, not to mention I have a very strong vendetta against being told to shift or crouch walk somewhere.

With a game like Simon says that is so specific/nit picky and turns kids into mini hitlers, CTs need to be specific with what they want the Ts to do. If want them to stay crouched, they need to say "Simon says crouch and stay crouched". Simon says has way too many technicalities for CTs to leave their order open to interpretation.

@Wawa and me right now: Okay. In regards to the shot for shot comparison, if a T starts shooting more than one shot at the CT he is a rebel and can be killed by any CT. Really shouldn't and don't need to explain that one. As for this whole "rocket toss" thing, gun toss has always been a game of who can "jump off this edge, drop the gun and have it go further". Things like strafe jumping and bhopping and shit have always been part of the jump part. I vaguely recall a few instances of Ts knifing the gun way back in the day, but it was very rare and usually wasn't a big deal. Some people very well might consider it cheating, and I understand that as it is a bit cheeky since you are now adding another element after the "drop the gun" part. However, I think at that point the CT should have just told him to toss again and to not knife it this time. Had he just straight up killed you for cheating, I would have an issue with it. However you started shooting at him so I completely understand him killing you. That's also why it's generally best to wait for the CT to surrender himself or tell you to kill him before you just start shooting. Usually you'll see the CT turn his back so you can knife him or something similar. Also milk, a T is allowed to kill the CT if he wins the LR in this situation and the T can be killed after the CT dies. So if he wins and shoots or harms the CT that lost, that's allowed. In this case, there was some confusion since the T cheated. Tldr- CTs, if a T finds a way to cheat during their LR, either just accept defeat, or have them do it again. Ts, stop thinking that because it's your LR that you essentially become God and the CT has to listen to everything you say.

While not in the !rules plugin, it does say here that "CT's may camp if it helps their team". Which to my knowledge, has always been the ruling. It also says that exact wording in the MOTD. Not 100% sure what you mean here. Not sure if its where the last CT camps in one place and just kills anyone he sees, or as souce suggested and more likely, where the last CT says "no medic" then camps inside medic and KOS any T that steps into medic. Honestly, as hobos said, I would treat each of those situations depending on how exactly they are playing out. If the Ts are actively trying to kill him in the area he restricted, and he's clearly attempting to kill the rebels, that's fine. But if he just camps in the corner of say soccer, and the Ts are chilling in pool while he does nothing, then I would say something to him to tell him to stop delaying. The key part here is delaying. "last CT must not delay the round" is the exact wording of the rule. Just use common sense and your best judgement to determine if last Ct is delaying, and if so don't just straight up slay him, but try to get him to actually do something. Edit: Souce just clarified for me. "kos camping is when you camp a kos area such as armory or a vent" That brings me back around to the delaying part. If the CT, regardless of if he is last CT or not, is just camping armory or a vent, and isn't clearly enforcing the order or killing rebels, then he is not helping his team and/or delaying. Which again, just use proper judgment and communicate with the player to try to get him to stop.

Will download the map and check it out when I get the chance. Will add it to the list of maps to test on the server soon. Likely will be Tuesday if things don't change. Our work schedule this week is up in the air since we had to fire someone Thursday.

Camping is allowed in general as long as you are helping your team. That's left up to some lose interpretation for a good reason. For example, let's take razor. The order is all Ts be in pool. If the Ts are accounted for, and a CT is just camping in medic, that would not be allowed as he's not helping his team. Same applies to if he's camping in the armory vent. Now let's flip that, the Ts are rebelling and a CT is camping medic. However he's shooting out of medic and killing rebelling Ts then healing. That is allowed since he is helping his team. Same applies to the armory vent. To use a different map, take one like clouds. If the order is for all Ts to be at soccer or pool and the Ts aren't rebelling, a CT camping the one way box at spawn isn't allowed since he isn't helping his team. The official stance I always tell people is that CTs may camp, if they are helping the team. Doesn't matter where the tent is pitched, as long as they are contributing. Same applies to last CT. Last CT may camp if he's enforcing orders and taking out rebels.

Luke asked me this yesterday. Yes, the grey part is part of the pitch. It's part of the field as play since you have to go up there to get the ball. In this case, there is a grey border between grey part and the grass. Everything inside that grey border is defined as the pitch. People really need to chill out with how literal and serious they take some things. This has to be one of the stupidest scenarios I've had in awhile.

Map maker updated the map saying the issue I mentioned was fixed. Gonna check it out later today and possibly test it on the server. Edit: dumbass got fired at work today, so I'm going to have to head back in a few hours. Will hopefully test this tonight, or tomorrow when I get home.

Been kinda back and forth on whether I wanted to do this or not but fuck it why not. Been awhile since I played fantasy but I'll play. Sidenote if anyone was planning on playing madden on Xbox one, HMU. Was going to do a league with @Nuclear Onion but he bailed on me

Free day LR is not coming back. It was removed because the entire point of a LR is to speed up the round. Players would essentially do nothing the entire round, then ask for a freeday next round as their LR to only do nothing again and ask for another freeday next round. Another issue Dominic pointed out was people would revoke it, which I was fine with, but then people would complain. A third issue was the fact that it often led to accidental freekills because people would lose track of which player did or did not have a freeday. And lastly, the whole principle of it was stupid. From the role play aspect, a last request is the last thing you do before you die...why would you request to have something the next day, after you're already dead. As for the armor for Ts, you're entire point is that it ruins knife fights. But the entire reason CTs have armor, is because they're at a disadvantage number wise. Based on your point, we might as well just remove armor from CTs then. We're not going to add armor to Ts or remove it from CTs.

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@Wawa @Nuclear Onion Fixed

So I really, really like this map, however I did notice one issue. There's a hidden helicopter and police car that gives you low grav and speed boost respectively. However the effects carry over when you die. If someone is able to fix that, I'd love to test it on the server and possibly add it.

Ts spawned with glocks. Didn't get past that since I swapped the map back. Will see if I can get that fixed or have someone fix it and test again later.